>>25306 The native language of Pakistanis isn't even Arabic it's Urdu They need the gospel in their own tongue because it's never the same in a second language

>>25554 >>25563 Sorry if I've not been succinct enough... Once you've fattened and fed the goose enough it will have fled ungratefully, typically over a 3 year cycle, although after a time it can return and repeat again into another one. You could take Abilify and trust big pharma if the alternative is suicide, but better treatment consists of "treatment through doing" which is to improve yourself and to go on dates and to prove to yourself that you have value. I've tried not to communicate with mine in any affectionate way possible. It helps that I have weak imagination and it's my own monologue that does the trying hard. You may have Atlas personality disorder as well, as the basis for an attachment mechanism. It lends itself well to simping if the limerent object were manifestly a real woman. I don't know how to treat it. I just try to keep the fat, overfed, greedy, ungrateful goose metaphor in mind and try to restrain it enough that a very giving nature is only manifest as "Acts of Service", that cause "Positive Dread Game" in a woman as opposed to contempt for trying to pay in kind for being an unworthy prescence before them. If it means anything positive to you, I have had these experiences and they were incredible but they have stopped being purposeful. I'm just trying to keep separate my experience of life from it now. Addiction is just an artificial pain relief in the end.

“For me the real evil of masturbation would be that it takes an appetite which, in lawful use, leads the individual out of himself to complete (and correct) his own personality in that of another (and finally in children and even grandchildren) and turns it back: sends the man back into the prison of himself, there to keep a harem of imaginary brides. And this harem, once admitted, works against his ever getting out and really uniting with a real woman. For the harem is always accessible, always subservient, calls for no sacrifices or adjustments, and can be endowed with erotic and psychological attractions which no real woman can rival. Among those shadowy brides he is always adored, always the perfect lover: no demand is made on his unselfishness, no mortification ever imposed on his vanity. In the end, they become merely the medium through which he increasingly adores himself . . . . And it is not only the faculty of love which is thus sterilized, forced back on itself, but also the faculty of imagination. The true exercise of imagination, in my view, is (a) To help us to understand other people (b) To respond to, and, some of us, to produce, art. But it has also a bad use: to provide for us, in shadowy form, a substitute for virtues, successes, distinctions etc. which ought to be sought outside in the real world—e.g. picturing all I’d do if I were rich instead of earning and saving. Masturbation involves this abuse of imagination in erotic matters (which I think bad in itself) and thereby encourages a similar abuse of it in all spheres. After all, almost the main work of life is to come out of our selves, out of the little, dark prison we are all born in. Masturbation is to be avoided as all things are to be avoided which retard this process. The danger is that of coming to love the prison.” ― C.S. Lewis

I've had some terrible experiences with women/girlfriends in the past, i'm not ugly but i attract terrible people or offend the people i like. I just wanted to escape to an internet fantasy land utopia, but my hidden dystopia is catching up to me, and i'm becoming more and more incapable of exchanging with people in real life, I have nothing to talk about other than offensive conspiracy theories and it clearly offends people i meet. No woman is as good as a comforting lie of a wiafu, but it's a dead end. I hope God can pull me out of this whole i've dug myself into.

>>25636 >i'm becoming more and more incapable of exchanging with people in real life, I have nothing to talk about other than offensive conspiracy theories Do you read the Bible? If not, pick it and start reading it. Then find a Church to go to in order that you meet people that enjoy reading the Bible as well. Connect with people over healthy topics, even if the conspiracy theories are real, God is more important.

>>25640 I do study the Bible a lot but there is a lot i don't know so i don't talk about it, i mostly hang out with Christians.

I'm not justifying porn use, it's clearly bad, but how can you ever be free from seeing porn and therefor opening portals to demons to oppress you? You know there have been advertisements that appear to be mundane yet contain subliminal porn, do those bring demons as well? What used to be porn in the 70s is now advertisement in the modern era. My family bond with media unfortunately it's the only thing we can do together, and there is subliminal porn there as well. It's like trying to be free of micro plastics. My questions is, is it possible to be free of porn and still be a part of society? Also does everyone who consumes porn become porn addicts?

>>25630 >but how can you ever be free from seeing porn By not giving yourself a chance to even stumble across it. Stop looking at anything that is sexualized. If you family bonds with media then don't bond with media that has any potential sexual scenes in it. When you find it hard to do without something, that is where your passion resides. So find new family boding hobbies, pick up a board game or something. Read the Psalms together. Repentance is the turning away from sin, not the turning away from sin only on certain occasions. Think of Proverbs 26:11. Do you desire Christ or this world? >is it possible to be free of porn and still be a part of society? Yes, I was once enslaved to porn and God helped deliver me from it. >Also does everyone who consumes porn become porn addicts? I don't think everyone that watches porn is strictly addicted to it. But everyone that watches porn is not following Christ.

>>25630 Forgot to attach this link for this helpful video by Kyle. I recommend all Christians struggling with lust/porn addiction to watch this. https://yewtu.be/watch?v=4ipD7FocmWk

>>25633 >By not giving yourself a chance to even stumble across it. Stop looking at anything that is sexualized. You're not listening. It's not just with obvious sexualized media, it's in public ads and commercials, there is hidden porn is seemingly innocuous ads. Does subliminal porn still cause you to sin even if you're not aware of it? >Repentance is the turning away from sin, not the turning away from sin only on certain occasions. Think of Proverbs 26:11. Do you desire Christ or this world? I will repeat, i'm not defending porn.

>>25637 If it is subliminal then you have no awareness of it, there is no sin. There are subliminal messages everywhere, but there is also willpower. Those pictures appear more like pareidolia to me. So I suppose that a person with a highly sexualized mind from repeated exposure to porn and overly lustful material would be more prone to see these kind of things, even if not maliciously intentional. Like seeing a naked lady in the clouds for example. Only when you have a stimulus present that triggers your passion can the demons use that to entice you into sin. If it is subliminal it can't trigger your passion if your unaware. And even if it did, the demons have to entice you into sin, so the longer you couple with the thought that arises, the greater the risk you will give into sin. So the first step is to desensitize your mind to the flesh. Reduce your exposure to what is visible and then you will be unaffected what is invisible.

>>20940 This is a very good point! It amazes me that the Christian faith works and that all the man made sociological "improvements" fail in a major way. It is, I think, proof of the God like Intelligence of our creator who knows how his creation - that would be us, works. And God knew it thousands of years ago and modern sociologists still don't understand it.

>>22522 This. A Christian anthropology is the only valid, true, and meaningful view of human existence.

>>17420 Samson Delilah is such a pure woman. Once again the Bible teaches us the nature of women. Samson is tortured like Jesus but unlike Jesus God commands Samson to kill them all, and he does.

>>25415 Judges is always one my favorite books to read when I cycle back through the OT. For some reason it always reminds me of a Mad Max setting.

>>25628 >For some reason it always reminds me of a Mad Max setting. Yeah, that's a pretty cool way of looking at things Anon. I think the Christian church has been pansified (largely due to unrestrained behavior of women) to the point where they seem somehow to forget it is an awesome and mighty God with Whom we all have to do. His holiness will brook no rivals.

>>25548 That will be good as well. I feel like love needs to be prove to me, personally.

>>25551 Alright, fair enough then. I'll pray for that.

Asking again for updated prayers, this is my list so far: >Anon's friend's family >Anon's trust in God >Anon's church seeking >Anon's stress/anxiety/depression/lack of motivation >Anon's atheism and quitting drugs >Anon's porn addiction (x3) >Anon's loneliness >Anon's friend >Anon's friends and sobriety >Anon's neighbors >Anon's speaking with God >Anon's health issues >Anon's job search

Lord Jesus, would you please remember us brothers in Your infinite love? Us little, fallen, broken and undeserving brothers on this thread? Please, have mercy on us.

>>25626 Amen. Thank you for Your great grace and mercy, Heavenly Father, in Jesus' name.

>>25624 As Orthodox I don't disagree with anything the Church professes. I believe it has complete continuity from the time of Christ and the 2nd Temple until now, with the least amount of doctrinal and liturgical development in comparison to Roman Catholicism and Protestantism. >part of it do you think its the true church I don't really like this question of "True Church", because when it is generally asked it usually completely ignores the complexity of Church history. The Church has always been present but fragments have broken off and need to be healed before they can be put back into place.

>>25477 Probably for a good number of reasons: >taboo >easily merges with fetishism of uniforms >many people can't imagine giving up sex so they assume that celibate individuals must be repressed/libidinous >contempt for the faith In the case of Japanese hentai, I imagine that it's mostly a weird costume fetish rather than a specific desire to defame religious women, as it would be in the West.

>>25617 I don't know why you think I'm debating. I'm trying to tell you, 'elephants are big.' And I feel like you're responding to the effect of, 'oh yeah? How can you convince me that elephants are big? Did you know about skyscrapers? Where's your thesis on elephants? I'm a loony-toony, abroopy doopy doopy. Don't you realise if you just say, 'elephants are big', people won't believe you? If elephants are big why do they have wings? I'm so glad I became a zoologist so I could debate with you all here about those five-legged, four-winged, pink-polka dotted trunkless creatures, elephants!' And I'm telling you to look at the elephant. And then you go, 'I don't wanna look at an elephant!' I'm just going to keep telling you to look at the elephant. If you're going to worship a person. You should know who they are and what they've said. And if you're going to contribute to a discussion. You should have an idea of what those beliefs you're discussing even are. The headache is that I have the impression you're going to keep posting 'your doctrine' in contradiction to scripture and give advice contrary to scripture all over the board anyway, then do what you've done here and make it as though the person correcting you is culpable of guilt for separating you from your conception of God by telling you to read the scriptures of the religion you profess. It means your 'conception of God' is just false. Well, if you think God is just human 'kindness,' and especially 'kindness that needs to adhere to my understanding of what kindness is and serve my ideas of what'd be good more than God's' then yes, that conception is false. If you genuinely want answers to any question, you can not learn those answers if you think the axioms you hold that are leading you to have the questions are already right. It's rather that your axioms are wrong. and that you didn't read Swedenborg very well since you shouldn't have these questions if you read him. (And yes he's legitimately right about the points you're mocking him for). You can not have humility before the Word if you dismiss heavenly things as, 'they're just high,' or see someone recount interactions with an angel and go 'that guy was on drugs', or going 'if I was in that position, I'd hate Christ!' when referring to people actually in that position such as the blind man who love him and are grateful, or contrarily going 'Christ you're not being loving enough!' (though there isn't actually any specific case of Christ not healing a leper; you made that up) for not performing miracles before people who hate him, are mocking him, or don't want the miracle as much as they want to hold onto their existing notion of him and so are unwilling to receive it. (Because as well as always telling the truth, God also loves and respects free will). Even though He actually does! He performs the biggest miracle that ever happened, before everybody. And guess what? People still don't believe it! For even a hypothetical moment, consider reading the scripture with the mindset of, it's not being misleading or deceptive or allegorical and rather that IT WAS ACTUALLY ANGELS. And then YES, it does make sense. The world in general does really. Moreover it's the thing that you're treating this as a philosophy, not a religion. If Christ has done something good for you, why don't you believe what He says and want Him more? If you think what He says has value, why are you not going to the source of where He said it?

I appreciate the attempt to illustrate what you're getting at with allegory because it's an attempt to reach out but my issue with the elephant is not that it looks preposterous, but that the stakes and the proof required for accepting it involve the very lens by which I view everything else that crops up in reality. It does not fit awkwardly or otherwise in any of those confines. That's why you get people not seeing an elephant at all, much less recognising how big one is. I understand, again, you telling me to look closer at this blurry thing vaguely at the edge of my field of view but I've only just grasped being able to get to this point. Looking at it or into it isn't obvious as you suggest either. I'm going to look in there at fractal patterns no one in the country (except people as rare as you) has grasped in nearly a century and I'm going to have questions which you won't answer because you can't, and which JC left on the shelf because he didn't consider them important to the audience he had with him at the time. And I argue with you, you stand-in of wise counsel, because your Dad's treating me as a mute or as not good enough.

>>25621 And before you say it yeah I know it's because it's true

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gtaHvdYlBE not a question but please pray for him