>>16182 John Lennon was shot by a Christian fundamentalist for saying the beatles were bigger than jesus. He later came to regret it and pleaded guilty, he refused to do any interviews because he didnt want the fame of being a murderer and now jew media tries to spin it as if he had a list of people he planned to shoot to get famous.

>>14484 PrayersFromAbigail is a vtuber but she swings kind of left of evangelicals. From what I've heard gays really hate her so probably not left enough for them. I wouldn't let people shame you for liking anime or Vtubers though anon, it's no greater a distraction from God than sports. Most of the people I know who got into anime got into it when they going through a rough patch, so in a strange way I think even cute shows about fictional children being kind to eachother can be a small means of grace

>>16381 What do you mean shes " swings kind of left of evangelicals."?

>>16383 I think he means that she is a little bit more liberal than what you would expect from evangelical Christians but not liberal enough for the LGBT types

>>16383 Mostly shes female so

I found this list of Christian music that i didn't even know i had.

>>16381 She looks like christ chong but with glasses. Do you think she frequents this board?

>>16375 Why are christians prone to mental illness?

>>16411 Mental illness is a way of thinking that does not conform to >normal&quote; but nowadays normal is just not right!

>>16411 Demons have less reason to attack their own

>>17854 he will not divide us

rip my hopes and dreams

>>10906 God loves us and tells us not to hurt each other and how to best live a happy life. If you love sin and wickedness, if you like hurting people, you won't like heaven. I have never died, so I have no idea what heaven and hell are like. I know God loves us and the wicked aren't in heaven. To me, that sounds like heaven. Don't blame God Almighty for giving YOU free will and expecting no bad to come from your defying the help of the LORD.

I just realized how memes use straw man fallacies and emotional appeals instead of human logic and reason. Humm.. no wonder so many of them, founded in ignorance and emotion, are so utterly ... wrong.

>>17865 top kek

>>18651 True that.

>>20212 >attack the nonbeliever!!! Don't even hesitate or restrain yourself!!!! Feddiest fed go engineer 9/12 on >>/Islam/ or something

>>20212 Piss off fed

>>20229 >>20213 >can't even quote Church Fathers anymore Yikes https://www.newadvent.org/fathers/1901.htm

>>20212 >>20230 Fuck off fag.

>>20248 seethe cathokike

Creationist meme dump

>>20957 Not even an atheist and I'm winning. Thanks for showing me that I can still take Ws.

>>20957 >Sky Daddy Always found this one funny. It comes from a study that suggests people who have good relationships with their fathers are more likely to be religious. What people who use it unironically fail to realize is that the opposite is also true. And with how many atheists are/were angsty teenagers rebelling against their fundie parents, is it really surprising?

>>20967 People without a loving father have a hard time imagining a loving Creator Father, it's just a plain fact. And fundamentalism hasn't been as prevalent as people seem to think for centuries.

Shitty OC meme that you can use as a quick response when someone types God with lowercase G

inb4 janny spoilers the pic

>>23410 The story of the revolt of the wicked angels against God is not in the Bible (can anyone please give a reference... maybe I missed it) Is jewish lore, and not necessary for salvation... But didn't Micheal the Archangel almost fall into the Pit of hell himself, and God saved him? I heard it was more of an epic battle. In the church of my youth, there was a large mural of Guido Reni's painting depicting the event above the alter that "Traditional Catholics" usually have an alter dedicated to Saint Mary Mother of God. Just asking.

>>23416 >The story of the revolt of the wicked angels against God is not in the Bible (can anyone please give a reference... maybe I missed it) Is jewish lore, and not necessary for salvation Satan rebelled and was cast down: >How you are fallen from heaven, >O Lucifer, son of the morning! >How you are cut down to the ground, >You who weakened the nations! >For you have said in your heart: >‘I will ascend into heaven, >I will exalt my throne above the stars of God; >I will also sit on the mount of the congregation >On the farthest sides of the north; >I will ascend above the heights of the clouds, >I will be like the Most High.’ >Yet you shall be brought down to Sheol, >To the lowest depths of the Pit. Isaiah 14:12-15 >By the abundance of your trading >You became filled with violence within, >And you sinned; >Therefore I cast you as a profane thing >Out of the mountain of God; >And I destroyed you, O covering cherub, >From the midst of the fiery stones. >Your heart was lifted up because of your beauty; >You corrupted your wisdom for the sake of your splendor; >I cast you to the ground, >I laid you before kings, >That they might gaze at you. >You defiled your sanctuaries >By the multitude of your iniquities, >By the iniquity of your trading; >Therefore I brought fire from your midst; >It devoured you, >And I turned you to ashes upon the earth Ezekiel 28:16-18 Other angels, who sinned, are in hell with him: >Then shall the king say to those who will be on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, which is prepared for the devil and his angels. Matthew 25:41 >For God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down into hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be kept until the judgment. 2 Peter 2:4 >The angels also who did not keep their first estate, but left their own habitation, he has reserved in everlasting chains under darkness for the judgment of the great day Jude 1:6 There was or will be (in the last days) a war in heaven where Satan and his rebel angels battle with Michael: >And there was a great battle in heaven: Michael and his angels fought with the dragon. And the dragon fought, and his angels, but did not prevail; neither was their place found in heaven any more. And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent called the devil and Satan, who deceives all the world. And he was cast into the earth, and his angels were cast out also. And I heard a loud voice saying, Now in heaven is made salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ. For he is cast down who accused our brethren before God day and night.  Revelation 12:7-10 There may be further verses but these were the most immediately relevant.

>>23420 Oh and if you take the reference to the stars falling out of heaven in the following passage in Revelation as a reference to angels, then you get the interpretation that a third of the angels in heaven accompanied with him: >And another sign appeared in heaven: behold, a great, fiery red dragon having seven heads and ten horns, and seven diadems on his heads. His tail drew a third of the stars of heaven and threw them to the earth.  Revelation 12:3-4

>>23420 Thanks. I guess my eyes glazed over when reading the Book of the Apocalypse. You're certainly right about Isaiah 14:12-15, 2 Peter 2:4, and Jude 1:6 Pretty sure Matthew 25:41 is talking about people at judgement day. 41 “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 42 For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, 43 I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.’ 44 “They also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?’ 45 “He will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me. Isn't the Ezekiel about people as well? Angels don't have sanctuaries, or trade. Yet, the scripture says "And I destroyed you, O covering cherub,"... where Cherub is a type of angel. Still, Ezekiel 28:1 says the Lord is telling a son of man that this is address to the ruler of Tyre. "Son of man, say to the ruler of Tyre,..." which was a city in Lebanon. But where did the part about the legion of angels throwing themselves into the Pit upon seeing Christ come from, or that Saint Micheal found the "battle" easy?

>>23422 >Pretty sure Matthew 25:41 is talking about people at judgement day. It is, but the second part of the verse says that the fire is prepared not only for people being judged but for "the devil and his angels," which indicates that not only Satan alone is going to be cast into it. I was debating whether to include that verse in the post. >But where did the part about the legion of angels throwing themselves into the Pit upon seeing Christ come from, or that Saint Micheal found the "battle" easy? I suspect it may have come from medieval pastoral works or a saint's mystic vision, or secular literature. Popular conceptions of Satan and hell are colored by secular works like Dante's Inferno and Milton's Paradise Lost, but scripture itself is concise on the details of the events. The altarpiece you posted technically just depicts the events of Revelation, but I'm unable to locate the specific source of the more florid account you have in mind.

>>23420 Why is Lucifer called a man? And why is it said that he had, past tense, deceived the nations before nations presumably existed?

>>23422 >Ezekiel 28:1 says the Lord is telling a son of man that this is address to the ruler of Tyre. "Son of man, say to the ruler of Tyre,..." which was a city in Lebanon. He is commanding Ezekiel, as prophet, to deliver the message. >>23435 Old Testament prophecies were read with two senses. The immediate sense in the book was referring to the king of Babylon, but the passage is also taken to be a prophecy of the background and eventual destruction of Satan. Also, since the Babylonians worshipped idols and destroyed all of Israel, the king of Babylon was effectively Satan in the flesh to the ancient Jews.

>>10900 XNITY PRIMER read moar learn moar where did the previous post go?

Bumping this thread with some memes.

I picked up some wojak Christian memes over time. They really have become the new rage faces. The idea is good in them overall, the meme these ideas are contained within are distasteful.

>>24641 >I picked up some wojak Christian memes over time. >wojak you somehow made your desert-cult even cringier.

>>20957 Maybe this is effective for rebuking retards but otherwise what is the point of this? Has anyone used the argument 'morality is subjective' against someone using metaphysics to justify their Christian morality.

>>24709 Yes.

>>24642 >criticizes normalfag memes >proceeds to say 'cringe'