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Defeating sexual desires Anonymous 11/04/2021 (Thu) 19:15:55 No.1789
Hello anons. My heart is somewhat heavy as I write this, I do not have anyone that I feel comfortable sharing this with so I am coming here under the cover of anonymity to exchange my thoughts and seek yours on this subject. Given that: Masturbation is a sin Sex outside of marriage is a sin Engaging in prostitution is a sin As a man I have a natural sex drive I would like help and advice on defeating my sexual desires without committing sin. If I abstain from masturbation, I can refrain from engaging in sexuality for around a period of a week with little difficulty. After that initial 1 week period, it starts to encompass my whole life. I have an erection when I wake up every morning, and I get more throughout the day, at least one an hour and more if I have to interact with any girl under 30. I pray for help in keeping the sexual thoughts away, but it feels like I'm fighting a losing battle and I will relapse at some point no matter what. The longest I've been able to abstain from anything sexual was when I was an atheist and I lasted around a year. After a period of a few months, paradoxically my whole life was concerned with sex, I was not having orgasms however the only thing I had on my mind every day was "I need to find a girl to have sex with" (which never worked), everything was secondary to that. It culminated with me getting cock-teased by a girl I was exchanging with for around a week, getting fed up when I realized I was just getting taken along for a ride then seeking the services of a prostitute, which broke my abstinence and made me lose my virginity, if that concept even exists for a man. I regret the choices I made. After this chapter in my life, I concluded that the healthiest thing to do was to masturbate once a month to get it out of my system and to be able to live my life without being entranced by sex all the time. Eventually I relapsed and was engaging with porn at least 10 times a week, until I found the faith which helped knock it back down to something more reasonable like 2-4 times a month. However, sin is sin and I would like to be fully rid of it. I know that the simplest answer is to marry a girl, whoever that does not appear to be possible for me (it appears that my fate is to be an incel which I've come to terms with), so it seems like I've come to an impasse. I can't masturbate without committing sin, and I don't have a way to relieve myself of those sexual desires legitimately. However, if I don't relieve myself of it, it quickly starts to take over my life (I had begun to call the action of masturbation "satiating the beast" in my head). I don't know what to do. I remember seeing this anon who castrated himself on old 8chan years ago and thought he had lost his mind then, though now every day I start to understand more and more why he wanted to be rid of his sexual desires. Additional question: Why did God give me (and other men) such a strong sex drive and at the same time put me and a lot of other men (40% of men under 30 reported no sex in the past year in a study around 2018 I believe and that was before the corona lockdowns which must have made that number shoot up even more) in an era where it is extremely difficult to rid yourself of this desire without committing sin?
>>11219 >god cant help you, only you can truth/happiness lies within Get thee behind me satan
>>11219 >>11253 >happiness
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>>11253 >satan >celibacy how retarded are you? a celibate male is so holy, demons cower before him.
>>11297 Satan doesn't want more white christian babies so of course he supports celibacy.
>>11299 Celibacy is good option if you can't get married, it's biblical. >Satan is mostly targeting white babies. Prove it, because everyone is feeling the effects of liberal debauchery on the family.
>>11299 >Satan doesn't want more white christian babies so thats why the majority of abortions are done on black children?
>>11302 >so thats why the majority of abortions are done on black children? If so then satan and are abortion are based
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>>11299 >/pol/turd being retarded episode 765789988854333677999999999999999994444444444444444466875 its all so tiring
I have vivid sexual fantasies centered around women fainting or otherwise losing consciousness. Most of the fantasies center around rape, kidnapping, voyeurism and indecent exposure while unconscious. That said, I never watch porn videos and only fap once of twice a week at most. When I do, I rely entirely on my own imagination and upon memories of past experiences. At most, I'll use still images or written smutt for inspiration. Photos of women on stretchers are erotic to me in the extreme, and once I got an erection from reading a romantic abduction story from the 19th century in a public library. I've never told anyone about these fantasies IRL. In fact, I'm almost completely celibate by my own choice. All the women around me are simply too crass and promiscuous for me to find attractive. I like to think that I'm in a better shape than the typical pornhub user and in fact most posters on this board. Unfortunately I don't think complete celibacy is realistic for me and not everyone is really suited to live like a monk anyway. As long as I stay away from anime imageboards, hospitals, crime reports, girl's boarding schools and other sources of temptation I should be fine. What, if anything, should I be doing differently?
>>11305 >Abortion is good as long as it doesn't happen to my race What do you think will stop that from happening? >Satan is based You're a fool, i hope you're just being a retard, because you're parsing the spiritual entity worshiped by the elite to subvert you. You spiritual cuck. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbZ5OYBtIBg
>>11309 >What, if anything, should I be doing differently? Stop masturbating and phantasizing. Demons enter through imagination and leaving holes (weaknesses) in your personality. The after-effect of the male orgasm is equivalent to the female period. You soften your brain, poke holes into your soul on purpose. If you continue to do so God gives you over to a reprobate mind. I am the same that I am not attracted to most women since their dressing is crass and acting indecent. Though I am in a country where women dress slutty, they act decent and friendly, nonetheless, only the quiet and demure girls do it for me. It has been like that for years but my disdain for whorish (looking) women increased by actively pleading for the virtue and praying the rosary. You can also aggressively shout at the demon of lust: "Get away from me! In the name of Jesus, you have no power over me!" Hating the vice that disturbs you and hating evil things in general strengthens you in virtue.
>>11311 >>11305 >spiritual cuck. I find it ironic, christians calling satanists cucks.
>>11313 It's the other way around. When you revolt against God, you are cucking God and will reap what you sow, which is eternal death, lack of communion with God and hellfire.
>>11305 >>11313 this speaks for itself
>>11313 Why is it ironic? Nothing in the bible says to be a cuckold, it sounds like you just have a low opinion of Christians. Engaging in self destructive sins and debauchery would eventually lead to cuckolding.
>>11313 Christianity names the Jews as the enemy of mankind as well as giving true believers the ability to summon bears to kill foes forty at a time. Sounds like the opposite of cucked to me.
>>11429 >Christianity names the Jews as the enemy of mankind as well as giving true believers the ability to summon bears to kill foes forty at a time. Sounds like the opposite of cucked to me. i dont know if i should be laughing or crying here
>>11312 >The after-effect of the male orgasm is equivalent to the female period Did you get this idea from the book excerpts posted above? I can see the reasoning behind it but taking it literally seems disingenuous.
>>11480 It is not 1:1 like the female period, but the after-effects are similar but shorter. The excerpts reminded me of something I read in another books called Love & Orgasm. This book draws many equivalents and semi-parallels between the male and female sexual organs, but reading it can be disturbing if you are not ready for it. Not the Freudian things that are mentioned, but the overall picture of how much it makes sense. It is a lot of information to digest, as if initiative knowledge. Needless to mention it was written by a pycholojew. Nonetheless, it explained many things I could feel and knew already subconsciously, it just gave me the words to express what was in the darkness for so long. The male orgasm is called in French "Le petit mort", the little death, because man loses some of his life-essence and, ideally, shares it with a woman. You mustn't die (a little) for nothing, in the case of masturbation or sodomy.
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Would fasting be effective for controlling sexual desires? I know that it's a common ascetic practice but I am worried about fatigue and concentration problems.
>>12176 >Would fasting be effective for controlling sexual desires? No. t. reprobate who fasts heavily
>>12183 Don't call yourself a reprobate brother, don't be so harsh on yourself. The Lord has forgotten all the sins of the believer.
>>12289 Shut the fuck up nigger learn to read
>>12290 Only a miserable person would respond like you did.
>>12176 I think it can help, it's a way to subdue your body, your flesh, your carnal desires to eat food (assuming it's a proper fast and not stuffing your face with fish and chips). I'm not saying it will "cure" your temptations, but it might help with "learning" not to give in to temptations all the time. It's not the temptation that's sinful, it's giving into them where there is sin. So, say you see a provocative woman, you could lust after her or you could realize she's just a whore and temptress, a filthy provocateur who wants to cause you to stumble. A humble and Godly woman would dress modestly and not cause others to lust after them, similarly a humble and Godly man would do the same and not wear provocative clothing that causes women to lust after them.
>>12384 edgy
>>12493 I've been on nofap for almost exactly 14 days from enforced abstinence. I just got back to my old situation, where I was never able to go without masturbating for more than a week. How do I make sure I don't relapse?
>>13257 spend more time outside and away from home
>>13257 There is no trick to it. At one point I internalized how disgusting it is to watch two people fornicating for the sole reason of making money. It is virtual cuckoldry and you participate in it. Also, ask God sincerely to rip out the demon of lust inside of you.
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>>11086 >Sex is to be used to build families not exploit people
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>>13351 "yes"
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>go for a couple of weeks with little/no lust >all at once it washes over me and i indulge myself in sick fantasies >feel guilt afterwards and ask God for forgiveness >repeat until the Rapture it's those moments where it is as its strongest that i keep indulging myself in it. i keep praying for strength in resisting and asking for a godly woman in my life (not for sexual purposes obviously) but it all gets so tiresome. i understand that constant prayer is eventually answered, or that God will show you what his true plans are, but it's the waiting that drives me away. it's hard to see how i can find a godly woman when i am presently unemployed (but still looking) and barely get out much. i have maybe 4-5 friends total and we mostly do things online, rarely anything in person. the church i go to is also very small and doesn't really have any woman in my demographics, and the few that are there already have a boyfriend. dating apps are worthless. can't find new friends. it's all so tiresome.
>>13676 >godly woman in my life (not for sexual purposes obviously) I don't get it what's so bad about using a woman for sexual purposes?
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>>13677 begone satan
>>13676 Poor George. Sitting there so sad and having over 1 billion dollars in his bank account. I feel so bad for him
>>13682 wealth can un-shit your lifes work
>>13678 begone satan
>>13259 >>13314 So yesterday I gave into my desires. I was browsing the internet and I saw what appeared to be a picture of a woman in stockings and a miniskirt. It was posed in a way so you could just barely see the edge of her underwear. I impulsively clicked the link and it took me to an entire gallery full of similar pictures. After I had finished spilling my seed, I noticed something strange. This was a photography site where images are tagged by content. In addition to the tags you might expect, some of the images where also tagged as 'crossdressing' or 'transgender'. As I scrolled down to the bottom of the page, I discovered an image showing the same individual, only leaning over in a skirt without underwear. Instead of a vulva like I'd expected there was a clear scrotum visible. How do I live with myself knowing I've ruined almost four weeks of abstinence for a picture of a man in a dress?
>>13729 pray hard then go camping for a few days to a week. the closer to untouched nature the better
>>13731 I already tried that, that's what I mean by enforced abstinence. The issue is my tendency to relapse when abstinence is no longer enforced.
>>13732 thats just a matter of self control. find something to work for and use that as an excuse to control your urges
What if my wife masturbates me?
>>13734 u r gae
>>13729 always assume it is a man until proven otherwise. you can avoid this with 100% success by not watching porn at all.
>>13735 Wife(female)
>>13740 It wasn't a video it was a picture I found while looking for something else. I wasn't really thinking about porn at the time my excitement just got the better of me.
>>13742 This website hosts porn.

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