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Genesis + Biblical Creation Anonymous 12/26/2021 (Sun) 17:45:50 No.2178
This thread is for discussion and the sharing information critical of evolution, old earth, attempts to allegorize the early chapters of Genesis, etc. I will be posting some basic info critical of (Neo-)Darwinism shortly.
>>11939 it basically is a religion at this point. They have their own religious books, their own religious figures, and the beliefs that stem from their "religion" heavily influence their daily lives and values.
>>11897 >>11898 >>11899 Not only are homo neanderthalensis not in the supposed-linage of homo sapiens sapiens, we now know they are not in the lineage of any other hominid species at all. >tl;dr Like several of the hominid species, neanderthals are a completely-distinct lineage. God created them as completely separate (Hebraic) Min.
>>11945 t. nigger
>>11945 They can interbreed with humans, they are the same min. If Chihuahuas and Great Danes are the same created kind, so are Neanderthals and modern humans
There are many different types of tumbleweeds. But they will never evolve into anything but tumbleweeds nor did they evolve from… whatever. Whatever imaginary thing. Many different types of frogs. Always frogs though. When you see a four leaf clover once in your life. That's a genetic mutation, an accident, that's evolution. But you know that will never help it evolve into a sunflower. Nor will any slime in the ocean evolve into every millions of millions of different species on Earth even if you had your 500 million years. You hear that atheists passing by. You're being punked. Lied to. Laughed at by the devil. Stop it.
>>11948 No not really, to both counts. Donkeys and horses are not the same min, and we are expressly commanded not to breed them together. As to your first (highly dubious) claim, the evidence is that homo neanderthalensis went extinct well before homo sapiens sapiens ever showed up on the scene in Europe. So no.
>>11951 >the evidence is that homo neanderthalensis went extinct well before homo sapiens sapiens ever showed up on the scene in Europe. So no. Ah, so you're saying that you don't believe in the Bible. Gotcha
>>12009 Heh, can't really tell if you mean that to be a strawman, or just a simple ad hominem. :^) Ofc I believe the Bible. I wouldn't be here if I didn't tbh. I believe I already know what you're going to say ahead of time, but I'll bite. But go ahead and give it a shot anyway Anon. >tl;dr How is a species going extinct somehow not a Biblically-sound claim?
>>11939 >>11942 >>11944 >>11945 >>11946 >>11948 >>11950 >>11951 >>12009 >>12011 You're all a bunch of stupid, pathetic apes with overactive imaginations. You're nothing better than animals and you show it by spitting on the face of your fake god each and every single day excusing yourself by saying he'll "forgive you" while hypocritically harassing those that don't care for your mental delusions. You can't face the reality that there really is no reason for you to exist, you could die tomorrow and the universe wouldn't give a damn. There is no creator and nobody that cares about your pathetic lives out there. If you think that I deserve to go to hell for saying this, the joke is you're going to hell too. Every single human being is going to die and rot in the cold hard ground. Accept it and move on with your lives.
>>12011 It seemed to me if you were affirming the time-scale and history of the past as pushed by evolutionist paleontologists (old earth, etc). If you were not doing that, forgive me, anon.
>>12015 I'm perfectly fine with you believing you're the result of monkies breeding. No arguments from me, in fact reading your post I find it hard to believe that that's not true. So thank you for believing that and continue to do so. Now who witnessed to you recently and how did they hurt you? Did a JW give you a pamphlet saying you're headed to Hell and coming and posting this is your "revenge!". Why don't you believe Jesus raised from the dead as his disciples said?
>>12016 There's nothing to forgive there, I understand your theological viewpoint fairly well anon, you're weren't slighting me as a fellow Brother in Christ. However--and I almost hate to break this to you, due to your courteous response to my impertinent one :^)--I am affirming the long-creation days that you dislike. Please don't misunderstand me Anon. I certainly am no 'evolutionist' by any stripe that term is commonly-used today (inside or outside the Church). I am a "Day-Age Creationist". There are plainly many corollaries between actual, truthful science investigation and actual, truthful theological investigation. The sequencing of the species across the ~550 Mya-today 'train' of higher lifeforms across on-and-off the 'stage' of the Earth is clearly validated in 1'001 different ways, Biblically and naturally. >tl;dr God wrote two different books for us to all study: the book of Scripture, and the 'book' of nature.
>>12018 >Did a JW give you a pamphlet saying you're headed to Hell JW confirmed for posting on this board.
>>6968 I see what you did there ;-)
https://crev.info/2021/11/junk-dna-like-vestigial-organs/ https://www.allaboutscience.org/junk-dna.htm The death of junk DNA not so long ago was really swept under the rug as with anything that destroys new-age pagan mythology. This should have been the end of evolution. All DNA is useful.
>>12015 >All that anger
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The next time someone brings up monkies are genetically similar to humans. Means nothing. It's strange that they aren't actually more the same genetic makeup. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qjrTSra0pQ Atheists floundering https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypjZF6Pdrws https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDqny7UzyR4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXgqik6HXc0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXcH26M7PQM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTFoJQSd48c https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wLtCqm72-Y Watching these you realise why God doesn't entertain the academically wise and uses the foolish things to confound them. I don't want to say they're proudful in their high IQs but it's something like that. God doesn't need that.
>>12785 i heard somewhere that humans are more closely related to grasshoppers than apes?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V15sjy7gtVM Eventually I will stop having things to post in this thread, eventually. Gosh Bible.ca I was looking at their creationism section they have a whole thing and it really never ends. >>12788 I heard somewhere you need a spanking.
https://thednatests.com/how-much-dna-do-humans-share-with-other-animals/ grasshopers are bugs and therefore icky and gross and I will not look at them. The locus swarm! I feel like getting a pet hamster or mouse or something. I used to have a pet rat. I want to give him a little pope hat. I heard Francis was thinking of retiring so, who knows.
>>12790 get a shrew theyre cute especially the pigmy ones. Then you give him little locks of hair and a funny hat and call him Shrewish
>>12796 nice sage newfag
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gs_1PtT_jGo Heey I was talking about Dandelions earlier, Kent is watching. His cow analogy is actually good. You can only train a cow to jump so high, there is a limit, end of story. There is a limit to how much a species can change. Look at how many variates of Sharks there are and actually I was wondering if the Megladon is just a pre-flood Great White, people always depict it as just a large Great White. It's so sad that you have people who will look at some article "Megladons lived from 50 BYA to blah blah blah millions of years ago because it was in the dirt." And people just take that and believe it. Trusting in man, never, not once. And then they're say "Why Megladons went extinct!" OH I can't wait to hear about that, what theory did you come up with from the tooth fragments you have that you claim are separated by millions of years. That's always the best the "Why this animal went extinct." It's always hilarious because it's just another major obvious flaw with their world view.
>>12983 always read between the lines, especially nowadays.
St. John of Damascus on dragons: https://creationism.org/crimea/engl/al1.htm
>>12785 If bananas have 60% of the genes that humans do, and bonobos 98.7% it really makes me think that genes really aren't all they are cut out to be. Even the tiniest quantitative difference seems to result in massive and unfathomable qualitative differences in species. A bonobo is smart, but it is retarded compared to the most intelligent man, let alone an average man. Less than 2% quantitative difference is meaningless
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIIUMwpPwOc I've watched this whole video series he has made. It's very good. Aside from evolution he also gets into a topic which I am not going to spoil but if you watch the whole thing I think without a doubt it's proven.
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No one has ever dropped a "go look it up!" better than Trey. I haven't been feeling so well being surrounded by non-christians. Maybe I'm not worthy enough to be around disciple yet or God is doing something but I just hope it changes soon. I can't believe people make friends at church, well I guess I can believe that because people make friends everywhere, apparently. This world blows! I just want to live in a church with christians. Things are very painful and ungodly everywhere, I'm surrounded.
>>13201 great videos
>>13201 >tfw im the only real christian in the whole universe
>>13209 I think there's about 3 or 4 real Christians. and then 1 billion fake ones and 7 billion atheists it's actually a tragic world we live in. I was going to make a post about my parents, I finally opened up to them about Jesus and they went on about "many paths to God" and used terms like "my truth " and a bunch of other things you always hear and it's just too much. What's going to happen to all these people I don't know. Even if they don't admit it, they don't really believe Jesus is who he is. And most of them do just admit they don't believe he is the Son of God. This is all I ever see. Of course I go to church and there's a bunch of old people there who sure are fine but in my own life I don't think I've met another disciple of Jesus. I don't know if I have, ever. outside of church gatherings, I don't think I've ever caught a wild Christian in my pokeball or looked them up on the pokedex. And I can't make friends at church, the only people who can do that are people who make friends at work and other places, people who make friends. So I feel very not well in this world. In my previous Church community there was a guy, very sociable he mentioned he only really knew Christians at church. He worked as a teacher and Jesus just never comes up Christianity is just a joke to the world. He's so sociable and he said he feels alone and doesn't know anyone who knows anything about Jesus, but he has a wife and kids. But then apparently people have these great Christian Baptist God-fearing Bible believing families and the wife wears a blue sundress and the kids all stand in order of height for their meals, apparently these things exists and they go to the church and everyone is so happy and great, O WHAT FELLOWSHIP O WHAT JOY DIVINE, apparently such things exist. Many are in a world of hurt, physical sometimes in certain countries but otherwise just suffering a much slower death as the world crushes and crushes you and hisses at you. I try not to complain because Jesus should be more than enough for anybody anyways. Many Christians are having to learn a hard lesson, the lesson of John the Apostle. Jesus tells John that he wants him to do nothing. Jesus sometimes wants you to do nothing and that is actually difficult to just exist and be alone and sit there. For some anyways, many have accomplished this but I feel anxious and I want to do stuff I want to be with Christians I want to be doing stuff, well, it's not always meant to be.
>>13209 >>13211 please teach me how to be a real christian im feeling completely lost
>>13215 Ask Jesus and study his life.
>>13215 Well just don't be a fake Christian and presumably you'd be a real one. Luke writes that the Disciples were called Christians. So it's another word for a Disciple of Jesus in a way but I think it also encompasses the broader whole meaning of everything. You can be a Disciple of Jesus and be ignorant of many Christian things. Some would say a real Christian is a born again Christian, a saved Christian. But certainly you can be a Disciple of Jesus and not go to Heaven, obviously as we know. A real Christian I would say is not someone who would has certain boxes marked but someone who doesn't have certain boxes marked. You can call yourself a Christian so long as you don't believe certain things. Things which are plainly against God and the truth. Not matters of doctrine but matters of a hard heart. These things can be determined almost always clearly by the canon writings. A Christian is sort of an umbrella term for someone pursing the things of Christendom. How to be a Disciple of Jesus, history, salvation, whatever. If someone was lost about everything they of course should read the New Testament to start. Although sometimes that won't do anything if they're going into it with preconceived wrong ideas. Sometimes someone needs to explain clearly things. ) Jesus is just a good human teacher. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gefA3f0n3OY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EN9GqiAjEYI 2) I go to Heaven or Hell because I was a good or bad person. This is also wrong. When the angel asks what qualifies you to go to Heaven, don't try listing your good deeds. That's really the two problems I find. Fundamental. I see it all the time, of course I believed both these incorrect things myself before. If you avoid these then you're doing pretty well in understanding. But even though these are basics the fact is the majority of the world doesn't agree with these two fundamentals. Why? Because God in human form is not just strange to the Jews. To the ordinary man it is strange and seems crazy, God being an ordinary man is not something you find anywhere, we might think pagan religions had something like this going on, no. They may have had Gods looking like humans and these sorts of things, but God just as a ordinary man walking around. It's crazy, then and now. So it will always be hard to accept that Jesus was the Son of God, THE God as in creator of the universe, as Richard Dawkins-types always point out, "The creator of the universe came down as a Jewish man and died 2,000 years ago that's foolishness." And that's why Paul says the cross is foolishness to the world. And the idea that you can be forgiven of all sins and changed and let into Heaven not because of works but because of faith is again an insane idea. Heaven or Hell is one of the most common knoweldges of man across time and cultures we see from all over the world judgement after death. We see reincarnation based off what you did. Of course what you do in life is important, but faith in Christ for your righteousness, now that is not your average idea to just accept. So these two things are crazy, too good to be true. Though both of these truths make complete and sound sense when you actually seek to understand. Now if someone is already passed the understanding part "yeah I know all this already! I believe!" But maybe they don't feel like they're a GOOD REAL Christian. Well personally I don't think that's what qualifies to be a real Christian. Real Christians may not be the best Disciples but what's important for definition is what they believe. Being a good or bad Christian is a separate issue. Once someone has accepted the truth of Jesus and is repenting of their life but needs help well I think that really depends on what we need help with. Obviously most if not all actual help comes from God. Fighting sin or whatever it is. Finding good sermons and reading the Bible and praying and all that is obviously very good. Repenting and confessing your sins right away to God is good. But most of all look toward Jesus and keep him in mind Jesus should take up more of your thought space than the guilt you feel from sins. Always pray for God to fill you with the Holy Spirit and that it may grow more dominate in you, because that is something you cannot do. You cannot fill yourself with it, only God can and so it's sensible to pray Lord please fill me with the Spirit and cause me to walk in your ways I want to see my life change directions. This can be prayed always for all life whether the prayer was already answered or not we always need more of the Spirit controlling us partnering with us, the Bible describes people as being full of him, like a Spirit meter or it just means you are fully sort of showing the Spirit in you it's fully manifest.
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>>13204 Yeaaah I would say every single thing Trey says is the best thing ever. Top ten Christians of the 21st century by WatchMojo. Earlier I told you all to watch this series: >>13076 Now I hope you've all finished your assignment because we're going to have an exam about what stars really are. I'll tell you honestly, stars are balls of lightning https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ball_lightning And I'll tell you honestly a star led the Magi and a star was above the house when Jesus was born, it came down and was above the house. And I'll tell you, truly honestly really truly honestly, well actually that's it. I think so. We actually have no infromation about space. It's just another thing like Evolution. "Oh we know about space, everyone says stars are just other suns and they're super far away and galaxies are travelling away faster than the speed of light an blah blah blah I saw pictures and stuff." It's ll just junk. 99% of pictures from space and of space are just artist conceptions or real photos which have been altered totally. I don't know why, well maybe I do but really photos of space are not impressive and we really don't know anything. The other thing interesting in the series was I didn't know how obvious the proof was that Earth is indeed at the centre of the universe. Actually there's some interesting space stuff I'm starting to see now.
>>13228 >The two powers Good video brother, very interesting
>>13231 Interesting webm, do you have the full video? thanks in advance.
>>13240 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wu1mUSqGHwU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jH-q2U3qjs It's from one of these. He has two other genesis episodes but they're not as good. Then he still has a new episode which has been behind a paywall on his website for months. I wanna see it. Aside from Genesis he went through a phase of political videos for a while which I think he's done with now. What's funny is someone at my church—who doesn't believe in young Earth creationism stuff at all—showed me this guy because he thought he was crazy and funny.
>>13228 thanks brother
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this is supposedly cron-magnon an early human. Idk about you guys but it looks identical to modern humans to me. http://fineartamerica.com/featured/cro-magnon-man-reconstructed-head-science-photo-library.html https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_European_modern_humans this relates to something else i want to discuss. If the 1st Law of thermodynamics is true then that means that human dna should still contain some of the dna of cron-magnon and other evolutions of humans. If this is the case (and if its supposedly high enough for scientists to come out and say that its still prevalent within human dna) then why cant they re-create cron-magnon or any of the other evolutions by taking that dna and combing it with a human (or ape) fetus? The only way evolutionists can get around the reality of the law of conservation of energy is if they say that the DNA of our ancestors is still there, well if its still there then why cant you recreate a real life, in the flesh, version of our "ancestors". If you cant do that (or something similar, within reason) then the law of conservation says definitively that evolution cannot exist because dna (just like any other form of matter within a closed system) is incapable of being created entirely new.
>>13529 i kinda went on an autistic rant here. anyways, whether they genetically recreate our "ancestors" or not the law of conservation will forever be a thorn in their side since autistic ramblings aside its still not physically possible that a ape could turn into a human no matter how many billions of years you add to the timeline and even if you said that apes didnt turn into humans they just gradually took the shape of us it still wouldnt make any sense. Even taking mutations into account (which are almost always net negatives) the only viable way for a mutation to become a dominant gene would be for two people with the exact same mutation to breed, otherwise it just decreases in prevalence with every generation.. The only possible way you could create an ape out of a human or vice versa is if you used modern science to genetically butcher the human (or ape) body into taking the form of the ape (or human) body and even then that would require careful and well thought out design and the likelihood of that happening in nature would be slim to non especially considering the vast nuanced differences between the two. And really aside from our mental capabilities humans are largely inferior to apes. Our arms are less versatile and less strong and are smaller in length, our teeth arent as sharp which makes eating foods like meat more of a challenge, our fingers arent as long which makes it harder for us to grab and hold onto things, etc etc etc. The only real "evolutionary" advantage humans would have gained over apes was our increased brain power which makes the likelihood of this evolution even less likely since the logic of evolution relies upon the idea of natural selection which implies that the traits chosen would all be positive. If that were the case then we would basically just be monkeys with smarter brains. In other words the only way for humans to exist is if the entire universe just conveniently managed to trip over itself and cause a huge clusterfuck multiple times over the course of a couple billion years which at that point sounds more like an excuse to just not believe in God than proof of evolution. and thats without getting into the fact that if humans evolved from apes THEN WHY THE FUCK DO APES STILL EXIST? tl;dr evolution is stupid and makes no sense.
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>>13534 and just to put into perspective how radical of a change it would be to go from an ape to a human, heres a picture of a human and a chimpanzee
>>13529 >>13534 .this is supposedly cron-magnon an early human. Idk about you guys but it looks identical to modern humans to me. Pretty much. They mixed assaulted and raped with Neanderthals whom had raly pretty eyes and light face features and that's where modern humans come from
>>13537 or its just a human skull that scientists dug up/recreated and gave a funny name
if humans came from apes then that means we should share the same base DNA just like how all the breeds of dogs share the same base dna with wolves (im sure "base dna" isnt the right term but whatever). if thats so then scientists should be able to take away all the "human traits" (eye color, hair, height, skull shape etc) and whats left should be the exact same as an ape. am i correct?

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