I never kept links for the End Times, I kind of want other things people have. https://www.bible.ca/revelation/Refuted-Full-Preterism-Realized-eschatology-debunked-exposed-second-coming-Parousia-rapture-destruction-Jerusalem-70AD-Doctrine-Revelation-Commentary.htm https://christian.net/resources/daniels-70th-week-future-or-fulfilled/ https://www.jamesjpn.net/antichrist/the-70th-week-of-daniel-fulfilled-2000-years-ago/ http://www.letusreason.org/proph25.htm I used to have an indepth website about the whore of Babylon being the Catholic Church which most people believe.. even Catholics often, which is hilarious (Nooo Rome is separate from the Catholic Church!). But I think the whore is obviously Israel in the end times anyway. I was interested in how Jews see the 70 weeks but I still don't understand https://www.jewsforjudaism.org/knowledge/articles/daniel-9-a-true-biblical-interpretation/

https://www.gotquestions.org/AD-70.html I've already linked Chris White's video series which summarises the typical Christian ideas I think. I do want to say, one of the most annoying things is this idea that "My idea is from the early Church and yours is new and wrong." Not only is this flawed logic, it's never true. Christians have been arguing about the same things since forever. The Millennium reign, who the ten kings are, so on. Paul was addressing End Times prophecy arguments. Which Paul makes it clear in II Thessalonians chapter 2 the antichrist will declare himself above all so called Gods and SIT in the Temple. Titus was in the Temple and accidentally burned it. But that's it. From when Paul wrote in 52 AD no one did what he said the antichrist would do or anyone for that matter.

>>12918 the Whore probably refers to two things, a city and a nation. The city is New York (yknow the one with a statue of a woman with the star of Ishtar behind her head) and the nation is probably America because of the 7 hills in D.C

hehehehe. I am going to be posting in this thread all day every day. >>12920 Rome and Jerusalem also have seven hills, pretty much anything has seven hills depending on how you want to count I'm sure but I don't even want to discuss it. See discussion will go nowhere because pretty much anyone can interpert anything in anyway when it comes to these things, but I am going to post links. https://aleteia.org/2015/04/18/is-the-catholic-church-the-harlot-of-babylon/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CtdGm556gM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_BE6NDud4c

>>12922 >See discussion will go nowhere because pretty much anyone can interpert anything in anyway when it comes to these things true, its still best to draw up theories tho, likely none of them will be 100% correct but as time passes and events start happening a picture will emerge so it helps to already have some idea of what is to come. the most important things to focus on in my eyes are the two instances in Revelations where it says "let he who hath wisdom". Theres only twice when those words are used, once when discussing the MOB and once in Revelation 17:9. In my opinion understanding those two verses is the most important because it has been specifically highlighted by either God or one of His servants and reveals crucial details about the end times

heres a couple of infodocs i made about 4 or 5 months ago, theyre a bit outdated but still pretty accurate imo. one thing i would change is the thing about Plague and Death. While i think its possible they could be results of the other two horsemen i also think they could be their own separate thing. the reason why is because now we are seeing various governments across the globe (especially the U.S, aswell as Russia and possibly even Ukraine) seemingly purposefully destroying both their own and the global economy. Hell theres even been reports that famines could occur due to ships filled with grain not being allowed to leave Ukraine. So thats just one more possibility, and the thing about Karl Marx and the Sonderbund War is (or should be) still good.

>>12925 Everything in the last point about Jews, 7 years and the temple is unbiblical

>>12922 >Rome and Jerusalem also have seven hills, What if all three places are evil

>>12929 \well it is in the Bible. The argument is about whether it already was fulfilled or not. And I really don't see that it was. In fact it wasn't, but there's not convincing a preterist, just let them be wrong all the way until the 70th week of Daniel comes.

>>12933 The whore of Babylon is one city. And it's Jerusalem. Specifically Jerusalem in the End Times ruled by the Antichrist, at least for a time. The Pope and the Catholic Church I don't believe are alluded to at all anywhere in the Bible even slightly. And certainly not New York, only an American country bumpkin could think such a thing. "Nooo but that's where the UN is located!" I'm glad my biblical image in the OP has been spoilered but sexually provocative anime images never are.

>>12946 There is absolutely nothing in the bible about the Jews building a third temple. The son of perdition will declare himself to be God in "the temple of God", which is the Church, not any heathen temple of a false religion. While the bible does say that Israel will repent and return to God at the last days, another temple and additional sacrifices would be utterly inconsistent with the new covenant. The mark of the beast would necessarily be given at the start of the 7 years, as this is when his reign starts and he starts persecuting the Church for a period of 3 and a half years after which is the coming of Christ followed by 3 and a half years of God's wrath being poured out on the earth until the wicked are annihilated.

>>12949 No one said anything about Jews building a Temple. But they obviously will and are to fulfil prophecy. I guess yeah when Paul in 51 AD said there would be a man sitting inside the Temple of God declaring himself to be God he was not talking about what he obviously was talking to the Thessalonians about. To me this is just the same as Israel. It's just a coincidence Israel is here, it's just a coincidence there's a third Temple, it's just a coincidence there's an antichist in that Temple and now he's waging war against his enemies and so on. Now of course the Temple isn't here yet, the antichrist isn't here yet. Don't worry we'll see Dave. The idea that the Temple of God, well that can't be the Temple because Jesus is the Temple. It's like complaining about Israel calling itself Israel, "well that's not really Israel." Well that's what it's called so. And there's some other things and I'm not sure what you mean by the sacrifices and the New Covenant. The antichrist will re-establish the daily sacrifices in the Temple, something the Jews have been waiting for, Jews will believe the anti-christ is the real Messiah. Of course I don't even want to get into it. I really don't. I can see the horrible long winded circling future of this thread. I'm going to post links about the End Times whenever I get a chance.

>>12952 >No one said anything about Jews building a Temple The image did >I guess yeah when Paul in 51 AD said there would be a man sitting inside the Temple of God declaring himself to be God he was not talking about what he obviously was talking to the Thessalonians about. Calling your understanding obvious is just a wonderful way to sidestep having to actually justify it, but the way you phrased this is funny because the foremost problem with this interpretation is that it is impossible that it's how the Thessalonians would have interpreted it. That's because when this was written the 2nd temple still existed, so if they were to interpret it as referring to an edifice of the old law they would have understood it as the temple of their own day. Actually obviously, this is not what Paul was referring to. >To me this is just the same as Israel. It's just a coincidence Israel is here, it's just a coincidence there's a third Temple, it's just a coincidence there's an antichist in that Temple and now he's waging war against his enemies and so on. Now of course the Temple isn't here yet, the antichrist isn't here yet. Don't worry we'll see Dave. The idea that the Temple of God, well that can't be the Temple because Jesus is the Temple. It's like complaining about Israel calling itself Israel, "well that's not really Israel." Well that's what it's called so. I have no clue what you're babbling about. >I'm not sure what you mean by the sacrifices and the New Covenant I mean that the repentant Israelites who believe in Jesus in the end times will not be offering sacrifices of the old covenant, nor will they build a temple of the old covenant in which they will not offer sacrifice.

>>12953 And there's the greentext. The image actually didn't say Jews would build a Temple. Paul was referring to the Temple, yes. As I said. And then you basically give up on the rest of your post. Are we done now. Cause once we get into actually posting Bible verses... I've had enough discussion about the End Times elsewhere end here. Post articles and verse if you wish. I'm gonna do that but internet "discussion" no.

>>12954 >The image actually didn't say Jews would build a Temple. Its exact words: "a temple in Jerusalem has been rebuilt". >Paul was referring to the Temple, yes. As I said. I must say brother that is stellar exegesis, you totally destroyed my point. I'm being sarcastic if it isn't obvious >And then you basically give up on the rest of your post. No?

>>12955 My post is so short and you're still greentx- aaah whatever. Well i'm glad we're finished. Now if you have links and verses and stuff to post go ahead and do that. I think I will at some point I'll write out a whole thing. Or just looking at things step by step. Abomination of desolation, what's that all about and do that. what's this, this, this, and go through each thing. And people can have all their different interpretations which Christians have had forever arguing about the same interpretations. Look at the scripture facts, historical facts, blah blah facts and come to your own conclusion. Or be one of those who says "well my denomination says" despite the fact your denomination I guarantee does not agree on End Times prophecy.

>>12956 >My post is so short and you're still greentx It is an efficient way to respond to segments >Well i'm glad we're finished. Now if you have links and verses and stuff to post go ahead and do that You're acting as if though the discussion is off topic

>>12957 >It is What is? >acting I do not act what nonsense is this!? >discussion Oh... please. >off What am I off. I suppooose I could use this greentexting trollop old thing, yes. mmmm yes, rather, jolly good, mmmhmmm. hehehe.

>>12960 I will destroy greentexting and frogs. Now that is a promise. You can interpret that any way you wish or you can take me literally at my word. Revelation 16:12 for example. It WILL happen. Not this poetic idea of ooh bad things will increase and all this. I tell you the most literal and blunt idea of the End Times will happen. And I'll be here laying on my royal red couch eating my grapes from the vine as it all slowly comes true one event at a time. Not that we'll be here for anything other than probably the building of the Temple which is part of the End Times. "Noo it's just a random Temple!" Look, I'm here with the grapes on the couch. So.

>>12961 >I will destroy greentexting and frogs Is that a challenge?

https://www.biblehub.com/p/kjv/esv/matthew/24.shtml https://biblehub.com/p/kjv/esv/mark/13.shtml https://biblehub.com/p/niv/esv/luke/21.shtml

>>12933 what if the whole world is evil :O

>>12972 >swearing on a Christian board Every sin you commit adds to the suffering of Jesus on the cross you profaner.