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Merry Christmas Anonymous 09/11/2021 (Sat) 18:16:53 No.1467
https://archive.vn/niImm >It was not until the 4th century after Christ that December 25th began to be celebrated as the day of Christ’s birth >In the year 3 B.C. which we later show by other celestial events in the heavens to be the year of the birth of Jesus Christ, the sun was in this position from August 27th through September 15th >Revelation also declares that “the moon was under her feet.” > In 3 B.C. the sun and the moon in Virgo occurred on only one day and that was September 11 >Jesus Christ was born on September 11, 3 B.C sometime in that eighty-one minute span of time between 6:18pm and 7:39pm Also here's another guy saying the same thing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myI3J78gEIs Thoughts?
>>1467 >Thoughts? Holidays are a pagan practice and it's a sin to observe them.
>>1468 What do you mean with observe them?
>>1468 >He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it. He that eateth, eateth to the Lord, for he giveth God thanks; and he that eateth not, to the Lord he eateth not, and giveth God thanks. (Romans 14:6)
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>>1467 December 25th was literally just the date of the annunciation + 9 months. Jewish and Christian tradition held that the world was created on March 25, therefore the coming of the new world through Christ in the annunciation to Mary was held to also be March 25th. The December dating had nothing to do with the actual physical dating of things but of internal logic. This is why, for instance, the Orthodox Church doesn't care that their dating of Easter is shifting later in the year over time with respect to actual astronomy. The date of Easter was fixed to be the first Sunday after the first full moon after March 21 on the Julian calendar by the Council of Nicaea, but the Julian calendar is slightly longer than the actual solar year which results in it falling behind by a day every 128 years. That's a self-correcting issue though, because after a long enough time it means Easter (as well as Christmas) will have been celebrated on every single day of the year! This effect isn't present with the Gregorian calendar though, which the Roman Catholic Church instituted in the 1500s to try and bring things back in line with the solar year due to advances in astronomy by Copernicus, Brahe, etc. While that's fine for secular and civil purposes, whether it made the church more credible from a religious point of view is your call. For what it's worth, the calendar included in the publication of the King James Version in 1611 was Julian. When England switched to the Gregorian calendar for civil purposes in 1752, the calendar became obsolete. If the church actually wanted to use astronomy and astrology to determine the dating of Christ's birth, keep in mind they had access to the works of ancient mathematicians, astronomers, and astrologers. They had access to the works of the people that invented these fields that have long since been lost to modernity. The Egyptian city of Alexandria, aside from being a major centre of Christianity, was also a major centre of ancient astronomical observation. In fact, an Alexandrian had established the Julian calendar and the city was given the honor by the church of spotting the first full moon after March 21st for Easter in recognition of their talents. They went with the calendar of dates established and have stuck with it through the centuries despite the church being divided by politics and turmoil.
>>1703 And I forgot to include this point: if you should celebrate Christmas, then it would only be logical for you to defer to the authority of antiquity on its dating rather than seeking after some peculiar new doctrine. If you should reject that tradition in favor of modern understanding, and you aren't on a stepping stone to the radical rejection of the word of God wholesale, what is being celebrated in Christmas at all? It's not called for in scripture. The very name of the holiday is rooted in Catholicism (Christmas = Christ's Mass). Is there a good reason to believe in ritual masses and ceremonies without the Pope bearing down on you? Historically, it wasn't a major Christian festival either, in contrast to Easter. Unless you personally have a firmly rooted spiritual purpose for the day of Christmas, that isn't simple deference to worldly convention, its just a day off to exchange material gifts.

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