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Defeating sexual desires Anonymous 11/04/2021 (Thu) 19:15:55 No.1789
Hello anons. My heart is somewhat heavy as I write this, I do not have anyone that I feel comfortable sharing this with so I am coming here under the cover of anonymity to exchange my thoughts and seek yours on this subject. Given that: Masturbation is a sin Sex outside of marriage is a sin Engaging in prostitution is a sin As a man I have a natural sex drive I would like help and advice on defeating my sexual desires without committing sin. If I abstain from masturbation, I can refrain from engaging in sexuality for around a period of a week with little difficulty. After that initial 1 week period, it starts to encompass my whole life. I have an erection when I wake up every morning, and I get more throughout the day, at least one an hour and more if I have to interact with any girl under 30. I pray for help in keeping the sexual thoughts away, but it feels like I'm fighting a losing battle and I will relapse at some point no matter what. The longest I've been able to abstain from anything sexual was when I was an atheist and I lasted around a year. After a period of a few months, paradoxically my whole life was concerned with sex, I was not having orgasms however the only thing I had on my mind every day was "I need to find a girl to have sex with" (which never worked), everything was secondary to that. It culminated with me getting cock-teased by a girl I was exchanging with for around a week, getting fed up when I realized I was just getting taken along for a ride then seeking the services of a prostitute, which broke my abstinence and made me lose my virginity, if that concept even exists for a man. I regret the choices I made. After this chapter in my life, I concluded that the healthiest thing to do was to masturbate once a month to get it out of my system and to be able to live my life without being entranced by sex all the time. Eventually I relapsed and was engaging with porn at least 10 times a week, until I found the faith which helped knock it back down to something more reasonable like 2-4 times a month. However, sin is sin and I would like to be fully rid of it. I know that the simplest answer is to marry a girl, whoever that does not appear to be possible for me (it appears that my fate is to be an incel which I've come to terms with), so it seems like I've come to an impasse. I can't masturbate without committing sin, and I don't have a way to relieve myself of those sexual desires legitimately. However, if I don't relieve myself of it, it quickly starts to take over my life (I had begun to call the action of masturbation "satiating the beast" in my head). I don't know what to do. I remember seeing this anon who castrated himself on old 8chan years ago and thought he had lost his mind then, though now every day I start to understand more and more why he wanted to be rid of his sexual desires. Additional question: Why did God give me (and other men) such a strong sex drive and at the same time put me and a lot of other men (40% of men under 30 reported no sex in the past year in a study around 2018 I believe and that was before the corona lockdowns which must have made that number shoot up even more) in an era where it is extremely difficult to rid yourself of this desire without committing sin?
I can give my testimony and some insight, and hopefully that will help. I had been looking at/watching porn and masturbating since I was around 10 years old. I am now 27. Around 18 years old I started getting into the really bad stuff. Lolicon, furry, femboys, bloodplay, /ss/, etc. I would view porn constantly, and masturbate 5-7 times a week. Now I was raised baptist, but I fell away for over 10 years. Around May this year I recommitted myself to Christ. Even before that, I knew what I was doing was bad, but I was shoving that feeling deep down so I wouldn't feel bad about it. In the past I had tried stopping on my own. I could go for a few days before breaking. I then started to ask God for help. After praying some I got it down to once a week, and I always felt extreme guilt after it. And now I have been clean since around June, of masturbation and porn. This is not to say that I am not tempted, because I am heavily. There are times where I will see women irl, stuff online, even just innocent things, and be deeply tempted. Most of the time I can just shake it off, but sometimes I do an immediate prayer asking for Jesus' help. I would say I am at the point now where yes, I want to masturbate and please myself, but I am much more interested in keeping God's Word. Something that helped me was reading Genesis 39, when Joseph was being tempted by his master's wife. You should read it. I have also seen this site thrown around as well: https://easypeasymethod.org/ >I know that the simplest answer is to marry a girl Paul does say that those who cannot hold back their passions should marry, but you shouldn't think of it that way. Marriage isn't just so you can have sex without it being a sin.
>>1789 Consider this: If we were wise, lust should incline us to realize that it is just another thing in which we are not built to serve ourselves. That you are meant to serve your spouse and your community. You are obeying God, who said "be fruitful and multiply."
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>>1811 What if the devil builds a world in which spousal relationships are deliberately encouraged to fail such to bring about the dominion of lust over human life without ever fulfilling its purpose in procreation?
>>1812 That would be the will of God anyway; Satan is not so powerful. It seems to me that we have entered a time in which a slack attitude towards spousal relations just doesn't cut it anymore. Part of this is the rise of socialism and feminism in the West, which means ultimately that you have to find a morally sane woman, or else you risk having a commissar in your home who will snitch on you for disobedience to the state. The other part of the equation is sky-high debts and women in the workforce, both of which feed off each other in our overworked quasi-slave economy. So it is really bad out there, but ultimately you have to find a woman at some point, and the tide may be turning in society as Uncle Joe sends the USA crashing down an empty elevator shaft
Hello, OP here. Just wanted to make a quick post that it's been better. Whenever I feel the lust appearing, I ask Jesus for help in keeping it away and it goes away pretty fast. Pornographic content I encounter on the webring doesn't phase me anymore (other than the occasional brown anime girl) and I'm feeling good. >>1811 This might not be a popular opinion but I don't really believe that modern marriage is legitimate, because divorce is available at any time for any reason. Do I believe that a man and a woman in a modern, religious marriage are committing sin by having relations? No, but I don't believe that men have to get married because the concept of marriage as it was intended has thoroughly been undermined. To me the modern marriage is a fraud as long as divorce for anything other than infidelity exists.
>>1789 Read Augustine he was a degenerate in his youth.
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I have struggled with masturbation and porn since I was 14, and it truly felt like it was a losing battle. I would try everything, limiting my porn intake, how often I masturbated, what I would do it to, asking God for strength and forgiveness each week at Church, but none of it worked and the latter only made it feel that much worse. At the end of 2019 I could see that my porn tastes were gradually getting worse, so I started a nofap streak that lasted for over a year, after a while it became fairly easy to control ("I've made it this far so let's keep going"), however I also discovered a darker side of me during that time, I would still watch porn, but not jerk off to it, which only agitated the beast in me and left it scrambling for other outlets of pleasure, including homosexual thoughts, finding a real woman to hook up with (which almost landed me in jail) and edging (which is ultimately what ended the streak, to the same type of porn that I had tried to kick no less). Last year I essentially fell into my old habits, masturbating less often but not really reducing my porn intake. I can now say for certain that my tastes are getting worse and leading into dangerous territory. Even when I close my eyes to pray my brain habitually projects the images in front of me, like some kind of sick joke. As a result, I am now on week 3.5 of nofap and have made actual steps to curb my porn intake. I have completely deleted my porn collection across several drives (including anything in my shitposting folder that would be considered moderately risque) removed all the saved posts on my online porn account and changed the password to something completely random. Whenever I see anything moderatly lewd on other boards, I immediately hide it. I pray each night for forgiveness for anything that may have slipped through during the day, as well as that God may help me find a woman that will (in the end, hopefully) become my wife (for reasons other than sex, obviously). However, my main question is how would I resist temptation in the interim? I have tried, and it is impossible for my brain not to play some porn clip on repeat in my head. It defaults to it when nothing else is happening, and it can be difficult to find something to do when I'm at work or trying to fall asleep. Also, as odd as it sounds, I firmly believe I will be able to abstain from sex even if a girl is sleeping right next to me. I think the same logic that applied to my nofap streak applies as well, in that I've gone this long without sex so I might as well wait until it's right (after marriage). If she came on to me first, I truly believe I'd be able to turn her down. If she gets upset and leaves, oh well, she wasn't the one. If she understands and stays with me, that's a good sign. I had an opportunity last year to sleep with a girl, but I turned it down surprisingly easy by simply focusing on the negative aspects of her and how bad I would've felt afterwards.
>>2471 Reading this may help you: https://easypeasymethod.org/
Masturbation is a natural desire and there is nothing wrong with it. Prostitution is always inevitable, and therefore shoud be allowed but regulated.
>>2487 >Masturbation is a natural desire and there is nothing wrong with it Masturbation is disordered behavior. It destroys lives, especially in the age of the Internet. It’s an unnatural vice that divorces sex from its proper end and place in marriage. It’s egoistic, lustful, and severed from marital love. Matthew 5:27-30 >“You have heard that it was said to those of old, ‘You shall not commit adultery.’ But I say to you that whoever looks at a woman to lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart. If your right eye causes you to sin, pluck it out and cast it from you; for it is more profitable for you that one of your members perish, than for your whole body to be cast into hell. And if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and cast it from you; for it is more profitable for you that one of your members perish, than for your whole body to be cast into hell.” Your attempts to excuse prostitution are attempts to excuse fornication and adultery as well. Both things which are heavily condemned in the Bible.
I have been good and I have not strayed for a long while now but now I feel like it's just a matter of time before I'll lose. I am very close to seeking the services of a prostitute. I caught myself looking at some of their listings. Please help/pray for me brothers
>>1789 It's not God's fault that society is at a point where virgin women are hard to find and marry. Did he not give Eve to Adam? His intent was for there to be a woman for the man, and because of sin we are at a point where less and less men have something, or someone, as I should say, to live for. There are two ways out of this problem: pray to God for a spouse or start an insurrection and reshape society as you see fit.
Pray a lot in repetition when in trouble, put your hands up and admit you can do nothing to defeat the addiction and you need the Lord to take it from you. Only depend on God to take it. No addiction can be defeated by man because they are demonic. That's for masturbation anyway. I've never used a chastity cages and I wish I was strong enough to cut off my cock and balls. I masturbated once last month.
>>1789 i can relate to this as i am in a similar position. >I know that the simplest answer is to marry a girl, whoever that does not appear to be possible for me (it appears that my fate is to be an incel which I've come to terms with), i dont know you but based off this comment it seems your life is destined for more than just settling down. This all comes down to controlling your desires and yourself which requires prayer and discipline of both the mental and physical kinds. Pray to God for perseverance and truly dedicate yourself to this cause and persist no matter what, go and work out aswell especially when the temptation gets strong (yes even if its late at night). i know what youre thinking "ive already tried that and it doesnt work" but thats because you arent trying hard enough, you must go on till it hurts and then once it hurts you must go on even further. We live in a world designed to breed weak men so to be strong there will be lots of pain. You cant fulfill God's purpose which he has destined you for until you first control yourself and dedicate yourself to the Lord and His cause (whatever that might be).
Brothers, I want to express my support and ask for yours, for I'm also enslaved by this same desires some of you have expressed. May the Lord God Almighty have mercy on us and help us defeat the temptation >No temptation has taken you—except that of man; and God is faithful, who will not permit you to be tempted above what you are able, but He will make, with the temptation, also the outlet, for your being able to bear [it]. >1 Corinthians 10:13 Let's do our best, my brothers. Let us fight, but let us also run away, as Joseph did, when temptation appears that we may not be able to fight. We can do it, for God is by our side. >for God did not give us a spirit of fear, but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind; >1 Timothy 1:7
breeding and forcing marriage is sexual activity. maybe defeat that too but who cares, nothing is impossible for god. be good or evil
but yeah no need to make this a pain, there's nothing to win for me even some sort of blessing what's not designed to be good, will have no necessity to be of good. that's the camel god i heard.
>>3689 Apparently the latest one has acquired an interest in the whole of this board, and not just his thread.
>>3677 > I wish I was strong enough to cut off my cock and balls Relatable. I still hold out hope for a wife though, as I'm still young. So for now I merely struggle to fight the endless temptation and my weakness towards pornography and masturbation. I've been enslaved to it for ten years. Sometimes I'll even think of God while looking at pornography, but I'll brush Him right to the side and keep on masturbating. That's how strong my addiction is. I'd hate to have to live with this for the rest of my life, especially if I do not find a wife. I'm weak.
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I have an ethical question that I believe fits in the context of this thread. I have been learning to draw lately, specifically that of the human figure. Obviously this entails looking at nude figures, but since I am looking at them with an intent to learn from them and not to lust after them, it is fine. However, I would also like to try some life drawing classes and draw from a model in person. But the contrast between seeing a nude figure on a screen versus a few feet in front of me makes me uneasy. I have never seen a nude woman in real life, and I have made a pseudopromise to myself that the first pair I see will be of my wife's after marriage. As you can see, there is a conflict here between something that will advance my skills as an artist and that of my personal faith. What appropriate steps could I take?
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>>1789 1 Corinthians 10:13 >There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it. >>2487 James 4:4 >Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God. >>3676 Are you a virgin? If not, then it's hypocritical to expect one in marriage. If you are and/or happen to find one, praise God and count your blessings. >>4333 >I have made a pseudopromise to myself that the first pair I see will be of my wife's after marriage. Well, did you make a promise or not? If so, was it a righteous promise or not? If you make a promise to do wickedly or that will cause you to do wickedly, breaking that promise is good. Think of Herod and John the baptist: Herod promised to give his daughter anything, and she asked for the head of the baptist, and instead of doing the righteous thing and breaking his promise, he chose to murder the baptist. It was a promise that would and did cause him to do wickedly. Back to your word, I would ask myself if I felt it was a promise that would lead to righteousness, or if it would glorify and please God. I'm sure you could make the argument that bettering your skills as an artist could glorify God if you use your art to do so (perhaps painting biblical scenes like Noah's Ark or the Garden of Eden for example). You could also make the argument that you gave your word and keeping that would glorify God. I think it really comes down to your conscience and do not harden your heart against the counsel of the Holy Ghost, the comforter (John 14 KJV). Pic related also comes to mind. Painting nude models isn't the only way to improve your skills though and you don't necessarily need to paint nude models to improve on painting people as most paintings aren't of nude people. You could simply wait to take painting courses of nude models until you're married, but your wife may not like that and the Bible refers to marriage as two becoming one flesh in Genesis 2:24 and Matthew 19:5. >As you can see, there is a conflict here between something that will advance my skills as an artist and that of my personal faith. I have never drawn anyone nude, but if you feel you can do it without looking lustfully then I don't see it being sinful. If you do find yourself lusting after women in this, then you know you have to stop. It's better to cast away something that causes you to sin than to perish (Matthew 5:29-30).
>>1789 You have lack of routine and potent prayer life. Start praying the Holy Rosary everyday, start the Wim Hof breathing method, and non-formulaic prayer every morning and evening. Don't spend too much time in town, go to the forest. Whenever I stop with my prayer rule my lust becomes astronomical.
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>>2471 >Also, as odd as it sounds, I firmly believe I will be able to abstain from sex even if a girl is sleeping right next to me. I think the same logic that applied to my nofap streak applies as well, in that I've gone this long without sex so I might as well wait until it's right (after marriage). If she came on to me first, I truly believe I'd be able to turn her down. If she gets upset and leaves, oh well, she wasn't the one. Haughtiness comes before the fall. For a long time I believed this about myself but wait until you actually have to opportunity. Not to put doubts into your head, only saying that you don't count the money until you have it in your hands. Don't think of yourself as saintly in hypothetical scenario, act saintly wihtout any thought of pride. We tend to assume a "holier than thou" attitude when we manage to not be total degenerates for a couple days, but your feats are nothing in comparison to actual saints. To be a chaste Christian is what is expected of Christians, nothing above and beyond. Now, the time we live in is against us; women dress and act like whores without repercussions, yet it is not an excuse to persecute our thoughts and impulses. Not that you think "I will never lust again", for that is pride, but when you fall, thank God that your fall was not worse than it could've been; and you get up, without a word and without a thought of the past and go forward again.
>>4389 *not an excuse to not persecute our thoughts
Board full of LARPers who can't even stop cooming
>>4796 Porn addiction is a serious problem affecting tens of millions of people. And it's bad enough where scientists have compared it with hypofrontal syndromes that result in impulsivity, compulsivity, emotional lability and impaired judgment. It's a serious problem, especially when the average child today is introduced to hardcore pornography at an age younger than ten. Not very Christlike of you to have no compassion for the suffering. And those addicted to porn are certainly suffering.
>>4796 I don't get the comment. Who's larping? And you're contradicting yourself because a LARP means Live Action Role-Playing game. As in, in person and not on the internet
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>>4802 This. p*rn = bad I do think it's the right time to post this webm though
>>4813 Are there some sources for those claims?
>>4826 watch John Doyles video on it, he goes through most of the sources listed here. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vtp31feyTfM&t=998s
>>4856 Thanks. Can you stop being a namefag though?
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>>4856 >enticing thumbnail >talks like a faggot >Jesus bobblehead figure >MAGA hat Is this the best the West can offer?
>>4880 he doesnt look like that anymore but it doesnt really matter, hes the only person on youtube id actually listen to
>>4889 Looks like here are old chan-users. I'll dump more of the classics.
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>>4882 I watched his analysis on Beauty and the Beast, absolute Chad. Still, he should remove the Jesus bobblehead-figure. Now I feel ashamed that I identified so much with the beast.
>>4898 fuck i related to far too many of those things. >Now I feel ashamed that I identified so much with the beast. wdym?
Anyone have that screencap of the guy with the trip like "Ariel" or something like one of the watchers from Enoch? It was like "the heros of this age were sent to something or other"
>>4904 >wdym? John Doyle describes the beast as autistic incel incapable of wooing women. This is me. Minus the looking like a beast, most women (if not all) who get to know me think I am a monster and don't want anything to do with me. Despite being attracted to me, I don't know what to do since I am incapable of loving women.
I see a lot comments explaining how using porn for arousal is bad. Personally I stopped using it that way a while ago but I still sometimes come back to bdsm which I don't find erotic. It's just really satisfying/hillarious for some reason. Could it still be bad for me? So far I don't see a problem with it and christianity even encourages mortification of the flesh and bringing others to humility.
>>4940 >It's just really satisfying/hillarious for some reason. Could it still be bad for me? So far I don't see a problem with it and christianity even encourages mortification of the flesh and bringing others to humility. This is a slippery slope. You convince yourself you watch porn for "nobler purposes" while it drags you down into sin. I watched porn for "educational purposes" and , surprise, I started cooming again and breaking my longest streak of 6+ months. The fact that you are "satisfied" by watching BDSM and try to compare it to mortification of your flesh, in the Christian sense, is disturbing. Confess your sins and stay away from it.
>>4938 oh i thought you were talking about the Beast in revelations lol
>>4940 Mortification and gaining mastery over the body for the glory of God and sanctification of the soul is not the same as suffering for wicked purposes as in bdsm. As we know the devil likes to do a mockery version of all the holy practices. God incarnates so the devil possesses people, mass - black mass, marriage - sodomic unions, sacrifice of the mass - human sacrifice, Holy processions - pride parades, mortification - bdsm, etc.
>>4954 So basically when I use it for silly fun then it's bad but if I use it to discipline myself and others and make them more resilient then I can turn it to good?
>>4959 Yeah, watching people get tied up and beaten is sick, you're fooling yourself and trying to excuse your consumption of degenerate pornography and obscenity by demonically claiming that it is anything like what monks historically and today do to themselves in order to get closer to God. Unironically repent.
>>4964 You don't understand. I'm not defending anything. Actually I'm ready to see the error of my ways even though it doesn't cause me any problems for now. Every part of your personality was given to you by God and is valuable and useful. Thing is that just like lust for beautiful women can motivate you to start a family or make you a passive porn addict perhaps me watching people getting slapped is a misuse of my gift. By mentioning pious mortification I merely suggested that perhaps there is a religious way to channel my feelings. So far I'm not sure what it is but one day I will find a way to use them to spread good.
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>>5016 When we have a sin/temptation, God wants us to triumph over it and excel in the opposite virtue. I heard it in this talk by an exorcist, which is a great talk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMcvZaiBwe4[Embed] So bdsm, which is some wicked sexual enjoyment of others suffering and being humiliated, or our own, should tell you to go the opposite direction. Strive for the good and dignity of man. Help yourself and others who are in an humiliated state in life, both materially and spiritually, so that the the God-like dignity man is supposed to have is attained. You can start by stop posting images related to that vice and post dignifying stuff instead... Also no sin 'causes no problem', all of them defile the soul and are an offense to God.
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I have even had God make himself undeniably felt in prayer, giving me actual faith rather than just intellectual assent, and yet I cannot stop relapsing into pornography. Pray for me, anons. I am not giving up either.
>>5205 same anon, good luck ill pray
>>5205 Conversion doesnt mean one magically stops having to participate in the spiritual warfare. I shall pray.
>>5213 >>5235 Thank you anon, I shall pray for you as well. >>5235 Thank you, anon. You are right.
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Working helps. Having a consistent daily routine. Interracting with people. Going on walks. Keeping yourself busy essentially. This has all helped me so far. Maybe it can help you.
>>5325 >Interacting with people Too horny not to do bad thing like talking >Going on walks Gives opportunity to interact or risk my skin in bad areas
>>5328 Idle talk and gossip are bad, yes, substantive talk is not. >walk So walk in better places. Point is to get outside and exercise.
>>5334 >substantive talk is not. Few people can talk like that. Idle talk is not a sin either but does get in the way of not getting horny. >So walk in better places Too far away.
>>4796 >And when the Pharisees saw it, they said unto his disciples, Why eateth your Master with publicans and sinners? But when Jesus heard that, he said unto them, They that be whole need not a physician, but they that are sick. But go ye and learn what that meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice: for I am not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance. Then came to him the disciples of John, saying, Why do we and the Pharisees fast oft, but thy disciples fast not? And Jesus said unto them, Can the children of the bridechamber mourn, as long as the bridegroom is with them? but the days will come, when the bridegroom shall be taken from them, and then shall they fast.
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>>5328 You don't have to talk to them then. Go bowling or pick some mushrooms together. The possibilities are endless.
>>3681 >You cant fulfill God's purpose which he has destined you for until you first control yourself and dedicate yourself to the Lord and His cause (whatever that might be). I Think one ought to allow God to help you control yourself, rather than it being selfwilled.
>>4333 Personally I would say it is best not to go.
>>5205 very relatable. right there with you brother. a demon i fight and lose to almost every day.
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There is one thing I feel bad about: there is this girl I started to see (again) today and we did make-out heavily, if it wouldn't be clothes on it would be sex. She knows I'll leave the country and she had this sad look on her eyes the whole time, also at one point she grabbed my crucifix necklace out of my sweatshirt and it reminded me what a hypocrite I am; making out with this girl (who is deeply in love with me) and trying to get sex out of her instead of having a meaningful conversation. I'm not asking for advice, I know what I need to do. I am letting you know that even when you have sex on a silver platter that it is not worth it.
>>5433 Why not bring her with you?
>>5446 >Why not bring her with you? What do you mean?
porn is dumb, smelly and I don't like it.
>>5670 its gross
>>5670 >3dpd
>>5468 To whatever other country you are going to.
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Same guy from >>5433. Today I almost fornicated with a girl I knew for a couple of hours. We were drunk and one thing led to another. When I was aware that sex is going to happen I did not do it. I kept it to a "minimum" of sexual degeneracy. Afterwards I felt drained of my energy. I did not plan on doing this, I thought the evening would be among friends and have some banter, but once the alcohol was kicking in everything was on autopilot. When you do not plan to fornicate with strange girls then don't drink a drop of alcohol. Even your best intentions and firm boundaries will be turned upside down.
>>5722 No, she is not long-term material (vaxxed) and not white.
Make sure to sacrifice the internet. "Ooooh but I can't I mean I use it for like christian videos and stuff. B-b-b-but I need it for work." I don't care. You have to give up the internet, perhaps even computers, for how long I don't know but that's how it is. If you really believe in eternity then what does it matter. Any porn addiction must be destroyed and God loves those who sacrifice. So do it. And then if you come back and you stumble again time to sacrifice again. Disciple that body make that body your slave, whip that flesh, whip it good. You're in control. I think castration would be helpful, Harlots can go and abort their baby no problem, where's the facilities to be castrated? Where's the reverse Viagra pills, they might have those I don't know. A marriage is a trial but having a proper Christian woman would help with sexual problems. Otherwise your trial is to give up on your sexual side completely essentially. Now or later you need to accept the fact you got to destroy it completely there's no real point in having it if you are not going to have a wife. "But I'm such a sex machine porn was my life for so long MMMM!" Get off the internet and get off the computer, don't wait until you sin again do it right now because you've failed enough times and come back when you're ready to use the internet properly young man. If you're a social outgoing person who has sex with women, stop it.
One thing is certain, you're going to die one day. That's it and then there's eternity. What are you living for. What needs to be done. Stop, goofing around.
>>5968 But you need balls for hormone production. Castration in men leads to poor bone health and boobies. Also there was some christian sect that I forgot the name of that did castrate its' members and they got purged.
For all the brothers in this thread I've read that in islam they fast to diminish the sexual urges (in case of incels) At first i thought this is bullshit , but i said why not try it at least a day And to my surprise , it did work How ? I don't know I stopped drinking water or food from the morning to the sunset The thirst at the first few days was insane , but the more days pass the easier it gets I literally forgot the sexual desire , it's like purifing the body or something I plan to try ramadan too I know it's kinda of sin to follow other religion , but it worked somehow for me
>>5975 >I know it's kinda of sin to follow other religion , but it worked somehow for me Read the Didache, anon. It's one of the earliest Christian texts that we know of. It is an apostolic tradition to fast on Wednesdays and Fridays, and even today, millions of Christians continue to do this. Fasting was a big part of the Christian life historically. Jesus himself fasted for forty days, and we know that everything he did was to demonstrate and teach us all righteous behavior. Also worth noting in Matthew 6:16-18, when Jesus talks of fasting he says 'When you fast...' not 'If you fast...' So you are not sinning, anon. Do not participate in Ramadan though, Islam is a demonic mockery of Christianity. Don't you know that it is Lent right now and millions upon millions are fasting in anticipation of the Lord's resurrection? Take advantage of it!
>>4864 It's funny tho
>>6198 what have i done
>>5967 Oh, well yeah thats fair then
>>1789 >and to be able to live my life without being entranced by sex all the time. Eventually I relapsed and was engaging with porn at least 10 times a week That's how it starts for me. First, I convince myself I can control masturbation in moderation, only to become the coomer-meme personified. >However, sin is sin and I would like to be fully rid of it. Not only sin, it is mortal sin - for a good reason. Whenever I polluted myself, I became weaker and my lust increased tenfold. I was more eager to fornicate and engage in degenerate behavior than when I abstained. It is a given that it is hard, very difficult to not do anything when you're young and living in this oversexualized world. Nonetheless, we must no lose hope and strive forwards to become chaste and pure again. >I know that the simplest answer is to marry a girl, whoever that does not appear to be possible for me (it appears that my fate is to be an incel which I've come to terms with), so it seems like I've come to an impasse. Don't settle with the statues quo. If you are 35+, it might be understandable but below that age you can turn around your luck, given you manage to find a proper social circle. >I remember seeing this anon who castrated himself on old 8chan years ago and thought he had lost his mind then Don't do that. You'll lose more than just sexual desire if you do that to yourself. Back in the day it made more sense, but if you do that out of spite for not getting girls and having unresolved mommy-issues, this is self-inflicted torture for a lifetime.
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Ever since I put an icon next to my computer a week or so ago I have not been tempted very much at all. I would be ashamed to indulge in pornography or masturbation with this icon looking at me. I thank God that He has given me the strength to resist temptation and that this icon allows me to have awareness of His presence. I cannot recommend it enough.
>>5976 >Do not participate in Ramadan though, Islam is a demonic mockery of Christianity Christianity is a pagan mockery of judaism.
I failed and coomed again today, and I keep doing it, a lot of the times its my fault, like I didn't see anything to set it off and I sometimes and not even horny. How do I stop and how should I seek forgiveness? Pious prayer?
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>>1789 Erotic energy is not a sin in itself, it is the desire for what you lack. Men and women became separate bodies so the desire of the flesh is to seek what it lacks continually, and become one again. I have struggled as well as a man. Understanding what the nature of Eros is, this energy can be redirected with some effort back upwards from the lower back to the head, where it originates by desiring union with the Spirit (which is not carnal, and therefore no use to the bodily urges) You have to sincerely want to do this, and check any sexual urges by immediately switching your thoughts to something spiritual or at least mental. Or you will probabbly succumb to temptation. Prayer and meditation and communing with the spirit, if heartfelt, will eventually give you the same release which is called apotheosis, a brief merging with divintiy, which is pretty cool. I haven't experienced it much, but it is a 'thing'. this is why icons have 'the glow' around the heads of saints who have the spirit resting on their heads. You will notice sexual release causes a feeling of emptiness, the earthly reward for indulging, and yes it is a sin therefore the spirit will draw away from you. Is it worth it? Up to you. Hope this helps. We all sin and we must at all times keep our minds to Jesus the savior, Son of God, and pray for his mercy on us. I hope this will help to strengthen you.
>>6915 Sorry - I meant kenosis (I tjink thats ehat its called) not apotheosis. Also bodily channels the spirit through orgasm, rather 'it draws away from you' (why it feels amazing and can also create a new life), but as you are just having a wank, it is adultery, a corruption of nature, and like all sins starts ganging up w others. Avoid if you can!
>>6906 Have you tried fasting from other things yet?
>>6901 In what situations are you often tripped up in?
Anons, please pray for me. I managed to abstain for months but today my lust and anger are stronger than usual. I don't want to pollute myself and commit a mortal sin.
>>7046 Stay strong, anon. I will pray for you.
>>7048 Thank you.
How do you get over the guilt and shame of a horrible porn addiction that you've ended, yet can't forget at all?
>>7046 >>7046 Also remember that all sins are like brothers in arms, they eat away at your serenity and mental defense, distract you and therefore help each other out in the conquest of you. When you submit to one, say, anger, others, say, gluttony and envy, will follow.
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>>7066 You are right. When lust rises in me then anger comes and vice-versa, if unchecked gluttony comes also etc.
>>7064 Go to confession, maybe? If not, accept that it was a dark time in your life and thank the Lord almighty that he gave you the strength to conquer it. Many still suffer from this grim affliction. Christ will forgive us, as always
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I just lost after a month free of masturbation. But really it was all for nought as I still kept looking at pornography and edging myself. Now I fnally I fell over.
>>7375 yeah it sucks
>>7375 >Now I fnally I fell over. Now it is time to get up again.
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>>7106 >Go to confession Do catholitards really? When you want deliverance you must repent, not whisper your wrongs to a pedophile at some fancy gloryhole.
>>7402 Your sins are put before God to be lifted from your shoulders in Confession. From then, it is your task to repent with God's help. It is a humbling and good act to undertake.
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>>7403 No they aren't you corny lil' fag. Time to teach you a lesson. Acts 2: 36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made the same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ. 37 Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do? 38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. 39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call. 40 And with many other words did he testify and exhort, saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation. 41 Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls. 42 And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers. I wonder if catholiqueers find child rape as humbling and good as spreading false doctrine? Or maybe shedding innocent blood because they think they have any authority over who is and is not allowed to translate the bible? If only, if only, if only you irredeemable faggots were wiped off the face of the Earth, never again able to stain the good name of the LORD any further. Thankfully you vermin will be trapped here during the Tribulation period, where your suffering will literally be unlike anything seen or felt in all of human history.
>>7408 No. Either speak with humility or do not speak at all. Nothing done with this scornful manner will avail you. Nor will it gain you converts. Besides, can't beat what has stood and will stand for ever. Nor should you try.
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>>7410 I have been way too nice to you c*tholic subhumans and it's time I stopped. Your traditions defy God and you will pay sorely on the day of judgement unless you turn from your pagan religion of idolatry. The bible is very clear that the apostle's doctrine is the one that must be followed in order to see the kingdom of God, yet c*tholics reject it in favor of murder, lies, hypocrisy, pedophilia and greed. You are no better than kikes, persecuting and murdering real Christians, as well as innocent people, because they will not give heed to your untrue dogma. Normally I would just threaten your life, but today I will do things a little differently and just walk away from this thread.
>>7413 You call yourself a Christian but call others subhumans.
>>7413 I've noticed Protestants like this rarely behave like Christians. Odd...
>>7413 I can't agree more with you, anon. What's particularly bad is that confessing sins to a catholic priest nowadays is a diversion towards a "confession outlet" with no damns given. IMO one should confess to those who care, Jesus Christ himself and a priest with whom you are in contact instead of some random priest.
>>7413 >threaten your life >all this swearing Oh yes, curse me with the Spirit of Martin Luther. That'll show me. What's next, threatening to throw literal shit at me like a monkey or Luther?
>>7413 while there is such a thing as righteous fury anon, whatever the hell that was, swearing, threatening lives, self censorship of one's words, and such a doctrine that runs so counter to Jesus asking one without sin to cast the first stone is not it. It is this exact sort of hatred without reason that killed so many Christians in the second half of the second Millenia as the idea of having the exact proper doctrine became more important than attempting to live as one Church as the Lord commanded. For my own faith, if one can not find a proper Catholic church, one is told that attending an Orthodox Church is perfectly fine as it is more important to love the Lord than to hate those who disagree with you on the details. A kindness sadly not shared in return.
Masturbation no longer brings any pleasure. Now it's just like going to the toilet, but far less frequently of course.
>>8530 I feel the same way, I don't even enjoy jerking off anymore. It's just repetitive mechanical movements now, i can't take it anymore. Why am i a massive disappointment, everyone i know is off getting employed or is persuing a career, while i am here wasting my time with Fag and IR porn. It's all so tiresome, sometimes i just want to end it all, my pathetic existence is just soo exhausting.
>>7375 Think why God doesn't want you to fap. Lascivious thoughts are the problem, not just the physical act, or the porn. It's much easier to quit cold turkey than edge all the time. I've been trying and succeeding for a while so far. If it gets difficult and you can't manage, just pray a rosary.
At this point I am almost consider getting a prostitute. Masturbation doesn't please me, pretending I like a girl to have sex with her is more immoral than paying a prostitute. I know it is wrong, a mortal sin, but I need an outlet of some sorts. Please pray for me.
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I just fapped again
>>8534 Funny, I write this comment and the urges get so much worse. Maybe it was too prideful. But I'll stick with saying going cold turkey is easier by far than edging all the time. Edging just makes the pleasure you need to deny yourself so much more immediate and tempting. The old memories of going cold turkey are easier ignored by far. And you can't accidentally commit a mortal sin by going cold turkey, which is a big bonus. Things for me have gotten bad enough that I've had thoughts of going courting and marriage, despite knowing I'm suited for neither and it'd just make things so much worse.
>>8568 Are you me? I'm on the verge of doing the same. Fap only cures my hornyness for a few hours at best (I fap once or twice a week at best) While no-fap only makes me more lustful to the point it gets unbearable. There's no in between. I'm sick of porn too, but somehow I still lust after all the women I see when I go outside. I tried keeping the Lord in my mind, praying and going to church to avoid the lascivious thoughts but they come back as soon as I distract myself. Even then I know that getting a prostitute wont fix my problem, in fact it'll only make it worse. I don't want to do it, but this part of me is way too addicted to the flesh so what the hell am I supposed to do? am I possessed? help..
>>8644 >Funny, I write this comment and the urges get so much worse. The same exact thing has happened to me in this thread if I have spoke too optimistically about my abstention. I think it is something to do with pride, even if it is not consciously meant in such a way. I'm at the point where I am feeling like any success I have at all is totally due to God, and that without Him I cannot fight the passions at all. And I'm fine with that, I'm very grateful that He has preserved me even for this short amount of time. My problem is fighting the thoughts. I have this creeping thought in the back of my mind how I would just love to give in and be a complete degenerate, but I know that I would just regret it afterwards and never break the cycle. Pray for me, anons. I will be sure to do the same for you guys.
>>8654 Don't go as far to say you are possessed. You need to keep yourself in check and distract yourself with hobbies, social life and prayer. If you miss out on this too often you will fall into sin. It is normal that you feel that, and if you live in the neurotic and frantic West, where women display eagerly that they are sluts, it is harder for a man to keep away these thoughts but not impossible.
Man, warm weather makes this whole thing much harder. Tight tank tops and everything.
there's a verse i vaguely remember. something about a dog returning to its own vomit, indicating the believer's status with the holy spirit. if this is a recurring issue, you might just have other problems. bigger ones. or maybe you're just not with the lord entirely.
I have a really weird sexual fetish that I thus far have failed to get rid of and I'm afraid it would negatively affect any spouse I may have. I don't think it's right for me to marry but at the same time I don't want to be alone forever and I don't have to discipline to be a monk. Please pray for my soul, Anons.
>>9380 You won't be alone forever. You will get rid of that fetish. You will be espoused whether to woman or to faith. All things are possible through the Lord Jesus Christ. >Then came the disciples to Jesus apart, and said, Why could not we cast him out? >And Jesus said unto them, Because of your unbelief: for verily I say unto you, If you have faith as a grain of mustard seed, you shall say unto this mountain, Remove from here to yonder place; and it shall remove; and nothing shall be impossible unto you. >But this kind goes not out but by prayer and fasting. Matthew 17:19-21
>be me walking in the streets >see all these girls wearing sking-tight pants or leggings >some belly-free >some with massive booba >some show cleavage >some with very short skirt or shorts >some very young >hard not to look >especially in the city center >some give me the look >don't fall into temptation >go to icon store >buy icon St. Michael the Archangel >go home >watch porn >decide not to masturbate >"please God forgive me and grant me strength to fight these temptations of the flesh" >"St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle, be our protection against the wickedness and snares of the devil" >go to sleep >lust goes away
>>10818 Idolatry.
>>10818 >booba >some very young >islam meme about abusing women I pray that you stop being cringe and disgusting, and that you hopefully develop past the mental age of 15.
>>1789 Useful book about marriage you should definitely read. It will have a lot of answers for a lot of questions. But it won't solve any problem in of itself. It will just give you clarity. You should read it all, but if you can't, read the why would someone remain single part. It's a very short read, big text.
>>1811 Multiplying in of itself is not fruitful. But it can be. Celibacy is superior to marriage. Even celibacy with lust might be better than a marriage with familial transgressions and godless kids. Whenever possible celibacy is best, but marriage is good also. Marriage is for the weak, celibacy for the strong.
>>10840 >Do not desire a multitude of useless children Somebody should explain this to all those godly niggers and spics with anchor and welfare babies.
>>10822 Very charitable of you, faggot.
>>2487 >Prostitution is always inevitable, and therefore shoud be allowed but regulated. Absolutely not. Whores should be stopped from holding that fiery anvil over our heads.
>>10818 Mohammadean shilling idolatry, like poetry. >>11039 >Whores should be stopped from holding that fiery anvil over our heads. >Stoning whores Ok achmed, this is not the 7th century grow up MudslimeIncel
>>7403 It obviously takes humility to confess your sins to anyone but that doesn't mean it's good to confess to evil faggots in fish hats.
>>11041 Take a chill pill my dude.
>>11060 That post was heretical though to be fair.
>>11040 Muslims don't have the monopoly on opposing prostitution. Sex is to be used to build families not to exploit people. Where tf did you grow up to have this kind of attitude?
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I really, really wish there was a space on the internet for people like me to vent their frustrations with porn addiction. In theory, /christian/ sounds like a wonderful place, but it pains me to see how poisoned the tenants of this board are, not only by a very clear lack of social interaction, but by these sick perversions of what a Christian is, by people who don't read the bible. White supremacist/Nazis, weeb nerd fetishists, it's so depressing. The worst part of being here is that this is the only place that I could reconcile my years of absorbing internet and chan culture with my desire to grow as a Christian. The idea of going back and forth with people in the same pit I am in sounds like it could have some rehabilitative qualities, but like I said, in reality it's so poisoned that it's beyond anything helpful. I come here crossing my fingers that there might be a post or two that's made by a sensible person, who isn't completely far-gone and lost, or at the very least possesses a shred of self-awareness. Another demotivating thing is that I'm not really "in" chan culture. I started browsing /b/ in 2013/4 or so because I was a kid (adult now, no bans please) and because my unsupervised internet use led me to it. Passing mentions and internet legends of "4chan" from the normie web led me to start browsing, and I got suckered in. It was fairly innocent at the time, I went there because it was funny. I posted and participated in silly, sorta-wholesome threads where I'd roll and do silly things like make a sandwich out of grapefruit peels and a stick of butter. We would stay up late and create image collages for a dude who had a sad-looking Facebook profile after we saw nobody came to his birthday party. I actually, seriously have a few very fond, fun, and unironically sorta wholesome memories just being silly on 4chan. But once I got comfy doing the silly stuff, then came the exploration. Whoa, you mean there's an entire board dedicated to looking at boobies? How could I say no to that? Then it became a habit as I continued to divide my internet time between porn boards and hobby boards. /k/, /g/, /v/, /vr/, /tv/ became boards i would rotate between, slowly adopting the collective board culture. The thing is, if I really look at it as a whole, I really only ever used 4chan for humor, hobby info, and porn. I've personally never really been into anime, or Japanese/weeb culture. In fact, besides the porn, anime stuff is my limit. I find weebism/anime culture completely pathetic. I not only find the surface-level normie weebs who go into cons embarrassing, but also the turbo-wizard autists who deride those surface-level normies and talk and talk about whatever stupid, obscure, contrarian anime they watch that isn't "with" the normies. As a legit aspie it seriously upsets me that there are people in the same situation I'm in that are completely devoid of any self-awareness, or have no earthly idea of how to interact with a human being. I consider myself very, very lucky, because although there are some things about my brain and the way I think that I'm completely unable to change, I grew up with normal friends and parents that somehow, in a massive stroke of luck, did not fuck up and guided me towards social interaction with normal people. I also had a bit of help from social workers and such when I was young, and that probably helped a little too. I'm young, and I still have room to improve, and trust me when I say I am reaching out and overextending myself because it is very, very important to me that I don't grow up to be without the proper social skills to navigate the world like a real person. That has to be one of my biggest fears, that I'll forever be crippled by this affliction, I'll never be able to hold a job, I'll be one of those pathetic, sad people that manages a Dairy Queen at 40 years old. But the progress I've personally made by buckling down and just doing it has proven to me that that doesn't have to be the case. All I know is that it (being a pathetic, failed man in my later years) is still a possibility if I don't work hard to re-wire my brain. Fuck being "unique". There's nothing positive about having a predisposition to isolated behavior. There is not a single benefit to being antisocial. It sucks that I can be born this way, but at the end of the day, I am so thankful that I can see a way out of this. It's still unfair and demoralizing knowing that I have to work harder than everyone else to achieve normalcy, though, but the light at the end of that tunnel is all I need. But, this is all to say I hate the fact that I don't fit in anywhere, that there is no solution for me. I can't find any solace on chan-like communities, because at heart I really am an outsider, an outlier, a black sheep. I sorta, kinda belong here, I sorta, kinda don't at the same time. And, at the same time, I could never imagine going on Reddit for the same reasons. I completely abhor the community, the culture, everything about the samey-same hivemind mentality Reddit has. Maybe that's because I’ve been conditioned by being here, who knows. I do realize what i just said applies to chan communities. a hivemind of a different sort, but I hate that too. I'm in between this wholesome, non-offending Redditor normie kind of person, and a nuanced, autist chan-dweller. I don't fit in either place, but out of the two sorts of communities, the chans are my home, because I don't have a choice. So in theory, the solution to this sounds like I just need to get off the chans, and get outside. but it's always the porn that gets me back. Even if it's not on 4chan, even if it's on some other site, the kinds of pornography I'm into always lead me back here, because this place is probably where I grew into those types of porn anyway. Video game hentai, traps/gay stuff, etc. You all know the drill. I think being in this internet environment is conditioning me to stay here, to live on the internet. i'm convinced that's simply what keeps us here. we're vulnerable people with no outlet, and we're corralled into an anonymous group, but we treat it like a real group, and it slowly turns our worldview, our thoughts and perceptions, into a sick perversion of real social interaction. It's just like a sickness that compounds and gets exponentially worse, until it's too much to even bother measuring. No point in finding out how deep the hole is, you're never getting out, right? I can safely say i have been "addicted" to pornography since i was 11-12 years old. It started with looking at things on my PSP/3DS, then hiding things on the computer, then the phone, etc. I'm in my early-mid 20's now. To give you reference, I’m as much of a degenerate coomer as you could probably assume. Traps, loli, hentai, gay stuff, real porn, any combination of any of these things, really. Ever since about 12 years old, it's been a gradual increase into degeneracy. Being a 12 year old discovering sexuality was a very fun, new thing to do. Everyone probably remembers being that way, but it grew into something I didn't really want to control, if I ever had the will to in the first place. What used to be looking up hentai pics of Princess Peach on my 3ds, very, very quickly turned into spending 12 hours at a desk edging, ejaculating, deleting everything, and then doing the same thing 2 days later. I would download 10s of gigabytes of INDIVIDUALLY SELECTED pornographic images (probably a few MB each at the most) in a night, delete it, then start the cycle again. I'd download file managers for my collection, keep it for a few months, delete it, and then start again. I’m a sick degenerate, right? I've been masturbating at the very least once a day (sometimes 2, sometimes 6, sometimes 8, etc) for about 7 or 8 years. Not an exaggeration, I'm sure there were a few off-days, but you get it. Now, I have a girlfriend. I enjoy her company, and being with her is a big highlight of my week since, as it stands currently, I don't have too many friends. We're usually together 2/3 days of the week, usually midweek, or on weekends. I’ve also had various girlfriends ever since I was 16 or so. Like I said, I’m in my 20’s now. This is all to say, not ONCE have I had trouble getting it up for a girlfriend(except for my first few times, stage fright, we all get it), or having sex. Me and current gf have wilds amounts of sex (as 20somethings do). My point? Nofap, PIED, all of that shit? It is ENTIRELY mental. Not to say porn is good or not harmful, but this is to serve a larger point, that cop-out methods like nofap and the culture surrounding it are also harmful. I've been on the nofap board and it is full of desperate losers, not unlike the personality types I mentioned before, clinging onto an escapist fantasy that misses the point. There are truly people that believe it will make you more social, give you "normie powers", etc, etc, which still proves my point, that it's all mental. But the solution that lies in nofap is "fake it til you make it, placebo yourself, find a solution that SOUNDS LIKE it makes sense, and trick yourself into going through with it." Wanna know why it doesn't work? Because it's the wrong fucking solution. It's made up. A concoction by chanvirgins, for chanvirgins. The problem with that, is that the people who perpetuate the nofap stuff are in the same camp as the people who want to believe in it. Therefore, everyone is participating in a cyclical, delusional, self-serving fantasy that sounds appealing, but everyone is too stuck to realize it will never work. In short, what's worked with me is brute-forcing social interaction and most of all, self-discipline through genuine means. When I'm with my girlfriend, I talk to her and interact with her. I talk and interact with her family, her friends, her family's friends, etc. I'm connected to a lot of people because of her, and I have unique interactions with all of them that benefit my social ability. When I go out with my girlfriend, say I go to some event with her family, and socialize and actually talk to people for the weekend, and actually be a person instead of sitting in my room, and when I have (admittedly kind of vanilla) sex with the girl I love and cherish, spend time with her, watch movies and eat together... When I spend part of the week and most of the weekend doing that (which I do quite a lot now, since it's helping), I will, without fail, come back on my computer and be absolutely and utterly disgusted with what's in my downloads folder from the previous week of loneliness. Yet, there's a 50/50 chance that within the hour, I'll have my curiosity piqued, and almost as if some sort of routine, I'll masturbate. because that's what it is. Routine. I have begun the process of fixing my brain by being outgoing and social, interacting with someone I love, and talking to people, learning what it means to be normal and slowly shifting towards that. There is hope. But a roadblock in that is habit. I swear it's written into my brain, I don't know how much of that sort of stuff is pseudoscience, but I genuinely don't believe masturbating to porn for the last 8 years nearly every day HASN'T had some effect on my brain. I really, seriously figured it out though. I know how to quit this shit. There is a light at the end of MY tunnel, I've seen it, and it's a matter of doing it. But every time I try to help anyone else here I'm brought down. I want to shape places like this into real havens of support for the black sheep who have been altered by antisocial behavior and internet use, but those same people I want to help are ironically keeping me from helping. It's very very difficult for people like us, because sometimes we lack self-awareness and open-mindedness. At the end of the day, as much as I whine, I won't be able to change you if you don't accept that. That is why an open mind is a great first step. You are a person. You can be and think anything you want, and changing your mind in the grand scheme of things is completely arbitrary. I'm not talking about core personal tenets like Christianity, but I'm talking about things like "I'd never give up video games/anime!" You would be better off being someone who can change. Sticking yourself in a corner for the rest of your life is a pathetic, hellish existence. But, who knows. maybe I'm a glowie, or Jewish, or a psy-op, right? No. I truly have only good in my heart when I say everything I’ve said. These things have been in my head and my heart for a very long time, because I've seen how the internet transforms vulnerable people into sad reflections of what they could have been. It fills me with great sadness seeing that, and I would never wish that sort of life on anyone. You can fix your own life. there is an end to the seemingly never-ending descent into this sickness. That's what it is. I truly believe it. It's induced. Everyone has the same story. Got into porn at a young age, poor impulse control leads to more extreme and extreme content, usually ending with homosexual stuff/actual child pornography. There is no way that this same exact path is a coincidence. There is a pattern, maybe only among certain people, maybe not, but there is a pattern. I don't claim to know everything about the psychology of it like the nofap people do, and this is all anecdotal, but I seriously believe I have a good handle on how it works and affects, at the very least, a certain group of people. With all of that said, I want to sum it up, TL;DR, whatever. The thing I want YOU, yes, YOU READING THIS, to know, brother, is that there is an end. You can take radical action, right now, to preserve your precious, valuable time and life, and change it for the better. That action is getting outside. Talking to people, and failing, and being a weirdo sometimes. Staying out of your room, and going to a local Bible study, or creating one, even. Be a part of your church community. Help that old lady out. Go up to that guy drinking coffee alone. Ask him if he watches any movies, or plays any games, or what he likes to do. Go up to that cute girl, and chat about something. Get a girlfriend. Go to family reunions. Shed your old personality. The internet is gone. Anime is gone. Shed these things from your memory pool, and keep them away from any talk or discussion with anybody else, these are products of the internet, these are products of sitting inside your room all day, talking to nobody but strangers. I am a measurably better, more confident, outgoing, and successful person, not because of Nofap, not because I’m a Christian (it pains me [or maybe it doesn’t, I don’t know]to say I’m not one right now, I’ve been struggling for a long time), but because I have engaged in the real world, and I have seen how fulfilling it can be. Life on the internet is being stuck on a raft, with nobody on the Earth left to help you. It is fake, it’s a facade, it’s false happiness. It perverts your worldview. There is so much benefit to be had that will last you the rest of your life by connecting with people, and connecting with the world. I love talking to friends and family about how much I love looking at my telescope, or my love of nature. It’s easy to talk to people about it, because it’s such a universally wonderful thing to look up at a clear, blue sky on a warm summer day and just be in awe. To look at blowing, vibrantly-colored trees shedding their leaves. Take your interest pool out of this wolf’s den. There are some people who are able to handle the internet. We need to accept that maybe we aren’t able to. Detox. Whatever that means to you. Just do it, and don’t ever, ever look back. You are NOT here forever. There IS light at the end, and you CAN move towards it. You will be a much happier and fulfilled person by doing this. We are not designed to sit alone and trick our brains with fake interaction. That is damaging. I truly believe everything I said can co-exist with even strictest, strangest stretches of Christian thought. Universalist Unitarians (yes they are heretics) could agree with this, Catholics could agree with this. There is so much more I want to say about my personal troubles, beliefs, etc. but I don’t want to make this blogpost any longer than it needs to be. But, I’ll say that even though this is a huge post, it is EXACTLY as long as it needs to be. This post is riddled with curse words, a seemingly lackadaisical attitude towards Christianity, but like I said, I think we could all benefit from this. I believe I’m in a position to say something about this issue, because I understand it deeply, I’ve personally been through it, and I relate to the effects and symptoms other men like myself have told of. Remember, you are a fellow man. You are not an anon. An important thing to change about the way you see the internet, before you leave it for good, is that every post you interact with is another being that deserves respect and consideration. It’s also safe to assume we’re all men. That’s a good thing. We have commonality. We share experiences. We should never forget that when we talk to each other in this place. But, some of you might be ready. What do I say to YOU guys, then? Leave this place, once and for all. Stop enabling yourself to fall. Smash your computer. Give it away. Downsize. Don’t fall into the trap of living a limited, minimalist hermit life in the woods or in a van, but take out the cancer that is the internet, and don’t pretend like you can handle it until you know you don’t need it. If your right hand offends you, cut it off. Change everything about yourself, and never, ever look back. I’ll be waiting for you guys out there, and I’ll be welcoming you with open arms.
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>>11110 incredibly based and a good read.
>>11110 I want to add an addendum to the part of my post about going on 4chan for the first time, and slowly degrading into a worse person because of it. I started browsing because it was funny, it was innocent. 12 year old me was pretty weirded out by the weird porn and gore threads, the shitposts, the racism, whatever. But as I stayed in that place, I became used to and accustomed to those threads that neighbored the ones I frequented. I'd check out the next thread over in the catalog out of curiosity, even though I had no interest in seeing it. It dragged me down, piece by piece. That is what bad company will do, and 4chan is bad company. You think you can be your own person, and do your own thing, even if the ones you're around aren't quite the same, but at some point you will all middle out and be dragged to the lowest common denominator. Every single time. It's important we socialize and get out, we need that. But, pay very close attention to what I'm gonna say here. It is better to be alone and keep your morals and individuality, than to be among bad company and have everything good about you be ripped out, to become just another disgusting face in the crowd of an evil world. If you have to be alone, do it. Internet or real life, it's poison all the same to be in bad company. That is why it's so important to develop normal social skills, so you can discern between people that are good for you, and people that aren't Staying away from the internet is just one piece of the puzzle.
>>11114 well said.
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>>11110 You're reacting. The chans are toxic as a reflection of the larger corruption in society. Thinking you can just bounce from one to the other and find salvation in the switch is absurd, which makes me wonder about your Christianity. Regardless of 4chan, which I never use, society as we know it is Evil. It is Satanic. Walk accordingly.
>>11110 TL;DR Blogposting Faggot
>>11110 Interesting read, though I see many flaws in your reasoning, It sheds light on a very obvious problem that is, more often than not, overlooked. I'm not sure how exactly to word it, but summing it up as "the Internet" is a good way of putting it. It makes one shut him self in and be very bitter and judgemental (myself ofcourse included) where he views whatever he does on the Internet as srs bzns and shuns all the meatspace people because "I'm sure he's a normalfag", "What a capitalistic racist", "What a karen", etc. etc. All the communities have very different "doctrines", but in the end they're all the same, as you said yourself. Then there are the vices it enables, phones, laptops, computers enable at the whim of a hand and it takes much more will than it ever took Joseph in Gen:39 to resist lying with his master's wife. It plays into our subconcious in a hideous, intertwined way I don't know, neither do I care to know, how exactly it works. But the important thing is not to entagle your self in that box, step out of it and you'll see a weird pathetic abbomination that has no power over you. I tried to understand the box for years and became more and more corrupted as a result of it, only after I cut most of it (still in progress) I can see the very faint light you describe. Video games are bad, socializing on the Internet is bad, porn is bad, anime is bad, movies are bad, everything made in man's image is bad. I need to take my own advice most out of all, but I really feel like this thread is one of the last many Anons will see of the Internet and thus I also felt an urge to share it. I seriously consider joining a monastery and devoting myself to God and leaving all of this shit behind. I don't trust myself I'll be able to shade myself of all the bad (the vast majority) of the world. I also have bad socializing issues and I care too much what other people think of me. The Internet has caused this to an extent aswell. I don't want to be a part of the "normal" (read: sinful and ignorant) world of which I'm still a part of. The Internet offered a promissing escape from that, but it is just another face of Satan. I'm also very desperate, I don't want to moderate my sinful ways anymore, I want to cut them clearly. It's the only way. I hope and pray we all escape these awful ways, may the Lord have mercy on us, sinners. TL;DR gay blogposting, I know. >>11118 A very good point, one needs to cut of everything sinful. I think monasteries and total devotion to God is the only way, especially in these times.
>>11110 psyop cafeteria christian
>>11118 you're right, society at large is indeed evil. but, if i'm interpreting you saying "you can't bounce from one to the other" to mean "you can't bounce from the internet to real society and expect it to be any better", you're sort of right, but my point here is that for certain people, the internet is a net negative, simply because of the way it affects our ability to socialize as intended, and its use case turning from a tool to a living space. i agree, society at large is indeed vile and evil, but there are many places christians can make for themselves. bible studies at home and many churches are safe spaces for christians. i truly think the internet, especially a format like an anonymous imageboard, is patently detrimental to that goal, simply because of the implications the anonymity of the internet as a whole has on discussion. the internet only attracts people on the internet, and i also believe becoming familiar with using the internet can only trade off with your ability to socialize in the real world, at a certain point. effectively, this means that, on a scale from bad, to neutral, to positive, people who use the internet start off at a "neutral" stance and go downhill from there. there's a special sort of corruption that familiarity with internet culture breeds. tl;dr, this is all to say that you're completely right, but that the negatives of the internet, even strictly as a neutral tool, outweigh its benefits. diminishing returns and such. that's probably the best way to describe it. i truly believe the endgame of heavy internet usage is a net negative situation. universally. and to bring up what you said about my own christianity, you'd be right to do so. i've been struggling for quit a while. i was baptized about 2 years ago, but either i didn't take it seriously and the spirit left me, or i never really got the point in the first place, and never had the spirit. either way, i am trying to fix this and discover what being a christian truly means. >>11129 >flaws in my reasoning i don't know exactly what those would be, but as long as you got the core message, that's what's most important. keep in mind, this is someone who unfortunately fell from the faith. otherwise, reading your resonse gives me the impression you understood pretty well what i was putting out. except for one thing >I seriously consider joining a monastery and devoting myself to God and leaving all of this shit behind me that is one thing i was afraid of, and that's why i added on that bit about not becoming some live-in-the-woods hermit. doing that is the same thing. that's the easy way out. christians need to be in the world, as bad and evil as it is. that's precisely why they need to be in the world, in fact. god puts christians among the rest of us because he wants us all to be saved. you are not saving anyone but yourself by closing yourself off. maybe it's hypocritical for me to say, though. >>11145 i'm not a cafeteria christian, if you read the post, nor is it a "psyop". i probably wouldnt consider myself a christian as of now, it would just make a mockery out of the people who are real christians, and i admire you guys. i need to work on my faith first.
>>7415 You're lucky I can't do much more than tell you like it is. Perhaps I should give you the she-bear treatment as Elisha did to the forty children? Would you like that instead, you wimp? Are you gonna cry because God called the nation of Israel a whore repeatedly? >>7440 Are you calling the apostles pr*testants? For your sake, I hope not. >>7443 No one needs to hear about your business. The word indicates that to be saved, one must repent, be baptized and receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. Nowhere does it say "tell Pastor Smith what you did wrong", or any other man for that matter. What you do is between you and God (he sees all anyway, so there is no hiding your worst crimes). >>7445 >a little bit of name calling counts as swearing Grow up, pipsqueak. You must be one of those wimps who thinks he must turn the other cheek when he is attacked. Even a vegan holohoax "survivor" would steamroll you in a fair fight. You better recognize that living by false doctrine will net you no reward, and the bible says that you will not see the kingdom of heaven unless you take the necessary steps to be saved. I am saying this because the doctrines you follow (not just you, but other unsaved anons the world over) have a lot of blood on their hands and continually slander the name of God. >>7452 Hatred without reason? I hate c*tholicism and so does God. You wanna know what's going to happen to all popes and their orthodox butt buddies when all this on Earth is over? If the false prophet is cast into the Lake of Fire to be tormented with Satan forever, what then will be made of the popes and the c*tholic church who have murdered many in the name of a false doctrine? All of the art, cathedrals, wars fought, music written, holidays observed, all of it is a monumental waste of time and will be rewarded with death, so the bible says! If the righteousness of man is but filthy rags to God, what then is the worship of Mary and the diehard dedication to practicing false doctrine? You will be left speechless on the day of judgement unless you turn from your wickedness. If you truly loved the Lord, you would listen to his commandments and actually live holy. There is not one holy c*tholic in ALL of history, let alone a single living one today. A religion of backstabbers, extortioners, pedophiles, thieves, adulterers, hypocrites, liars, undesirables, worshipers of Satan. The lowest of the low and deserving of infamy, I would hate to see you go to hell just because you think you are doing what is right. c*tholicism is not Christianity and it never, ever, EVER will be.
>>11180 the world's least angry evangelical everyone
>>11110 Anon, this is a great post. On one point I wanted to disagree but your addendum >>11114 >It is better to be alone and keep your morals and individuality, than to be among bad company and have everything good about you be ripped out, to become just another disgusting face in the crowd of an evil world. fixed it. And, I have to add, I was very social, friendly and optimistic until my mid-20s, also coming out of a life of comsuming insane amounts of anime, TV shows, video games and surfing on chans. Yet, at the age of 24 I lost all my friends and good relations to people, it broke me and I realized you should never be too dependent on external factors and never lose your inner strength by compromizing with your morals and integrity. Anon, you are on a good path, but remember all can be taken away from you one day to the next and you will never get it back. Keep your inner strength, integrity and morals intact no matter the cost or what happens to you. Never depend and trust too much in man, who is a creature who also needs forgiveness like everybody else. You understand love and charity better than most Christians do, this is why you took the time to write this long post, giving us insight about the depths of depravity that wait for us if we don't swallow our ego. Yet, your love and charity need to be cemented with a faith and dedication to God because, if all falls apart in your life, the externals that stimulate you are missing, you will be empty, bitter and hollow. t. anon who is 27 now and knows that glowing love doesn't last forever without dedication and discipline
>>11150 >i don't know exactly what those would be By that I meant going from masturbation to sex before marriage, both are fornication. And employing yourself with other types of sin that are considered "normal". But I digress. I hope you find a path to the Faith again very soon. >hermit/monk How can someone who himself isn't saved save others? Who is more foolish a blind man acting as a leader or the people following him? I'm full of sin, and as I stated I don't believe I myself can get rid of it while being surrounded with the vices of modern day. I don't think I have the power to save anyone myself. Maybe I need to put more faith in God and let Him lead me, I try to do that, but there is always more room for improvement. I did not think about it this way, thanks for bringing that up, I'll give it more though. On the other hands Monks can still save others, because they're very activelly repenting and serving God, they can do Church services, sermons, public service, translating divine literature, etc. and it will actually have an effect. I believe Monks can save more people than I in my current state ever could.
>>11219 >god cant help you, only you can truth/happiness lies within Get thee behind me satan
>>11219 >>11253 >happiness
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>>11253 >satan >celibacy how retarded are you? a celibate male is so holy, demons cower before him.
>>11297 Satan doesn't want more white christian babies so of course he supports celibacy.
>>11299 Celibacy is good option if you can't get married, it's biblical. >Satan is mostly targeting white babies. Prove it, because everyone is feeling the effects of liberal debauchery on the family.
>>11299 >Satan doesn't want more white christian babies so thats why the majority of abortions are done on black children?
>>11302 >so thats why the majority of abortions are done on black children? If so then satan and are abortion are based
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>>11299 >/pol/turd being retarded episode 765789988854333677999999999999999994444444444444444466875 its all so tiring
I have vivid sexual fantasies centered around women fainting or otherwise losing consciousness. Most of the fantasies center around rape, kidnapping, voyeurism and indecent exposure while unconscious. That said, I never watch porn videos and only fap once of twice a week at most. When I do, I rely entirely on my own imagination and upon memories of past experiences. At most, I'll use still images or written smutt for inspiration. Photos of women on stretchers are erotic to me in the extreme, and once I got an erection from reading a romantic abduction story from the 19th century in a public library. I've never told anyone about these fantasies IRL. In fact, I'm almost completely celibate by my own choice. All the women around me are simply too crass and promiscuous for me to find attractive. I like to think that I'm in a better shape than the typical pornhub user and in fact most posters on this board. Unfortunately I don't think complete celibacy is realistic for me and not everyone is really suited to live like a monk anyway. As long as I stay away from anime imageboards, hospitals, crime reports, girl's boarding schools and other sources of temptation I should be fine. What, if anything, should I be doing differently?
>>11305 >Abortion is good as long as it doesn't happen to my race What do you think will stop that from happening? >Satan is based You're a fool, i hope you're just being a retard, because you're parsing the spiritual entity worshiped by the elite to subvert you. You spiritual cuck. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbZ5OYBtIBg
>>11309 >What, if anything, should I be doing differently? Stop masturbating and phantasizing. Demons enter through imagination and leaving holes (weaknesses) in your personality. The after-effect of the male orgasm is equivalent to the female period. You soften your brain, poke holes into your soul on purpose. If you continue to do so God gives you over to a reprobate mind. I am the same that I am not attracted to most women since their dressing is crass and acting indecent. Though I am in a country where women dress slutty, they act decent and friendly, nonetheless, only the quiet and demure girls do it for me. It has been like that for years but my disdain for whorish (looking) women increased by actively pleading for the virtue and praying the rosary. You can also aggressively shout at the demon of lust: "Get away from me! In the name of Jesus, you have no power over me!" Hating the vice that disturbs you and hating evil things in general strengthens you in virtue.
>>11311 >>11305 >spiritual cuck. I find it ironic, christians calling satanists cucks.
>>11313 It's the other way around. When you revolt against God, you are cucking God and will reap what you sow, which is eternal death, lack of communion with God and hellfire.
>>11305 >>11313 this speaks for itself
>>11313 Why is it ironic? Nothing in the bible says to be a cuckold, it sounds like you just have a low opinion of Christians. Engaging in self destructive sins and debauchery would eventually lead to cuckolding.
>>11313 Christianity names the Jews as the enemy of mankind as well as giving true believers the ability to summon bears to kill foes forty at a time. Sounds like the opposite of cucked to me.
>>11429 >Christianity names the Jews as the enemy of mankind as well as giving true believers the ability to summon bears to kill foes forty at a time. Sounds like the opposite of cucked to me. i dont know if i should be laughing or crying here
>>11312 >The after-effect of the male orgasm is equivalent to the female period Did you get this idea from the book excerpts posted above? I can see the reasoning behind it but taking it literally seems disingenuous.
>>11480 It is not 1:1 like the female period, but the after-effects are similar but shorter. The excerpts reminded me of something I read in another books called Love & Orgasm. This book draws many equivalents and semi-parallels between the male and female sexual organs, but reading it can be disturbing if you are not ready for it. Not the Freudian things that are mentioned, but the overall picture of how much it makes sense. It is a lot of information to digest, as if initiative knowledge. Needless to mention it was written by a pycholojew. Nonetheless, it explained many things I could feel and knew already subconsciously, it just gave me the words to express what was in the darkness for so long. The male orgasm is called in French "Le petit mort", the little death, because man loses some of his life-essence and, ideally, shares it with a woman. You mustn't die (a little) for nothing, in the case of masturbation or sodomy.
Would fasting be effective for controlling sexual desires? I know that it's a common ascetic practice but I am worried about fatigue and concentration problems.
>>12176 >Would fasting be effective for controlling sexual desires? No. t. reprobate who fasts heavily
>>12183 Don't call yourself a reprobate brother, don't be so harsh on yourself. The Lord has forgotten all the sins of the believer.
>>12289 Shut the fuck up nigger learn to read
>>12290 Only a miserable person would respond like you did.
>>12176 I think it can help, it's a way to subdue your body, your flesh, your carnal desires to eat food (assuming it's a proper fast and not stuffing your face with fish and chips). I'm not saying it will "cure" your temptations, but it might help with "learning" not to give in to temptations all the time. It's not the temptation that's sinful, it's giving into them where there is sin. So, say you see a provocative woman, you could lust after her or you could realize she's just a whore and temptress, a filthy provocateur who wants to cause you to stumble. A humble and Godly woman would dress modestly and not cause others to lust after them, similarly a humble and Godly man would do the same and not wear provocative clothing that causes women to lust after them.
>>12384 edgy
>>12493 I've been on nofap for almost exactly 14 days from enforced abstinence. I just got back to my old situation, where I was never able to go without masturbating for more than a week. How do I make sure I don't relapse?
>>13257 spend more time outside and away from home
>>13257 There is no trick to it. At one point I internalized how disgusting it is to watch two people fornicating for the sole reason of making money. It is virtual cuckoldry and you participate in it. Also, ask God sincerely to rip out the demon of lust inside of you.
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>>11086 >Sex is to be used to build families not exploit people
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>>13351 "yes"
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>go for a couple of weeks with little/no lust >all at once it washes over me and i indulge myself in sick fantasies >feel guilt afterwards and ask God for forgiveness >repeat until the Rapture it's those moments where it is as its strongest that i keep indulging myself in it. i keep praying for strength in resisting and asking for a godly woman in my life (not for sexual purposes obviously) but it all gets so tiresome. i understand that constant prayer is eventually answered, or that God will show you what his true plans are, but it's the waiting that drives me away. it's hard to see how i can find a godly woman when i am presently unemployed (but still looking) and barely get out much. i have maybe 4-5 friends total and we mostly do things online, rarely anything in person. the church i go to is also very small and doesn't really have any woman in my demographics, and the few that are there already have a boyfriend. dating apps are worthless. can't find new friends. it's all so tiresome.
>>13676 >godly woman in my life (not for sexual purposes obviously) I don't get it what's so bad about using a woman for sexual purposes?
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>>13677 begone satan
>>13676 Poor George. Sitting there so sad and having over 1 billion dollars in his bank account. I feel so bad for him
>>13682 wealth can un-shit your lifes work
>>13678 begone satan
>>13259 >>13314 So yesterday I gave into my desires. I was browsing the internet and I saw what appeared to be a picture of a woman in stockings and a miniskirt. It was posed in a way so you could just barely see the edge of her underwear. I impulsively clicked the link and it took me to an entire gallery full of similar pictures. After I had finished spilling my seed, I noticed something strange. This was a photography site where images are tagged by content. In addition to the tags you might expect, some of the images where also tagged as 'crossdressing' or 'transgender'. As I scrolled down to the bottom of the page, I discovered an image showing the same individual, only leaning over in a skirt without underwear. Instead of a vulva like I'd expected there was a clear scrotum visible. How do I live with myself knowing I've ruined almost four weeks of abstinence for a picture of a man in a dress?
>>13729 pray hard then go camping for a few days to a week. the closer to untouched nature the better
>>13731 I already tried that, that's what I mean by enforced abstinence. The issue is my tendency to relapse when abstinence is no longer enforced.
>>13732 thats just a matter of self control. find something to work for and use that as an excuse to control your urges
What if my wife masturbates me?
>>13734 u r gae
>>13729 always assume it is a man until proven otherwise. you can avoid this with 100% success by not watching porn at all.
>>13735 Wife(female)
>>13740 It wasn't a video it was a picture I found while looking for something else. I wasn't really thinking about porn at the time my excitement just got the better of me.
>>13742 This website hosts porn.
>>13676 >>repeat until the Rapture I dare to say lust is the least of your problems. To your problem: I have those moments, and I did some very stupid things but could almost restrain myself at the crucial moment, even when drunk. If you truly desire to get rid of the demon of lust, then plead to God that he rips out the demon, and do so continuously. Pray to your patron saint for intercession, and St. Michael the Archangel who is the general of the army of angels against the devil and his henchmen, and to the Most Moly Virgin Mary. I used to be a Protestant and God granted me a few graces, but by becoming Catholic the strength God grants me is unreal. Nonetheless I fall into temptation, but have more self control. Stop having online friends and be in the real world. Once you get rid of your desperation and offer value others will come to you automatically.
Almost did I fall into the sin of self-pollution. I was overcome with instatiable lust, alone in my apartment, a sad and somewhat creepy silence. Sad to know what I am going to do, creepy as if the devil is tempting me to watch porn and lose my seed. I run up my computer, open many tabs and do what I haven done since last year. After a couple of minutes I lose interest and grow more and more disgusted at the material I am looking. I don't stop. Almost one hour and I still didn't waste my seed, instead the arousal depletes with each passing minute. I stop. Wash my hands. Think of what I've read today in The Ascend of Mount Carmel by St. John of the Cross about how to detach yourself completely from sensory pleasures. Thank God I read this. Who knows if I could have withstood if I haven't read his holy advice? Later I watch again. Arousal, yes. Attraction, no. Only disgust. This is not real. Loving people don't do this. Only in holy matrimony you join together and become one flesh, in your four walls for nobody else to see. What has our civilization become? I lost some of my vigor by watching and beginning with onanism, but not all since I resisted to waste my seed. I am too old for this. It has been too long that I watch this. Either marry a good girl or be a monk. Nothing in between. I wanted to abstain from the chans but post here after indulging in porn. For those who read this, I hope you find hope in God and solace that you are not alone.
>>13808 This website hosts porn.
>>13818 the internet hosts porn
>>13825 Your not a true anti-porn radical like me unless you ditch the internet. Ill pray for you.
At this point not even masturbation does it for me. The only desire I have is to have sex with my future wife. I cannot cuck myself watching two people fornicating. It disgusts me completely. Everything works fine, I have nocturnal emissions like crazy lately, but no desire for onanism and porn and fanzasizing. Disgusting beyond words.
>>13969 Lucky
>>13969 kinda the same. i still masturbate but i have a desire to be with an actual women and even my choices in porn have begun reflecting that.
>>13972 >this board is ran by a coomer No wonder it sucks
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>>13972 >i still masturbate but i have a desire to be with an actual women and even my choices in porn have begun reflecting that.
>>13978 AntichristHater became BO?
>>13983 BO is MIA he is the effective operator
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>>13978 Not just a coomer, but he also explicitly supports kikes (who knows, he might even be one!)
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>>13972 >i still masturbate but i have a desire to be with an actual women and even my choices in porn have begun reflecting that.
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>>13980 >>13993 >>13978 >>13992 That explains everything.
>>13992 The whole world according to scriptures is run by someone who chose Abraham as representative.
>>13983 No just mod because nobody else sent an email first. >>13972 stop that
>>13828 Just use a blocker plugin and use greasemonkey to stop pictures from loading while imageboard browsing https://blocksite.co/
>>13992 He is on But at least he gets rid of the spam on time.
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>we shamed AntichristHater so badly he stopped posting
>>13978 >>13983 not BO just a VOL >>14037 correct, and im trying to. Im not proud of it >>14087 no just doing renovations at my house and had to move computer setup so i was gone for a few days. and guys im not a coomer, im fully aware of how bad porn and masturbation is and im trying to weed it out of my life. I just relate to the feeling of that one anon.
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>>14136 Unfortunately, even if you stop cooming, you're still severely dysfunctional if you keep on openly supporting the synagogue of satan.
>>13978 You can't hate on Interracial, Blacked and Cuckold Smut if you didn't try it.
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>>14162 >>14160 damn bro you got the whole squad laughing
>>14168 i laughed at his meme actually. BO should not be supporting "modern jews."
>>14170 im not BO im just a volunteer. and supporting is very different from disproving obvious lies.
>>14162 >haha look at (((me))) >posting on a SFW Christian board Ok yeah this board needs a new vol. Was willing to give you a chance, but now I changed my mind. >>14170 >nobody should not be supporting (((them))) at all FTFY
>>14177 >nobody should not was your double negative intentional?
>>14177 >nobody should be supporting (((them))) at all Dang. Misspelled. >>14178 Should have been "nobody should" only
>>14160 >one hundred and nine countries! *1000+ countries and the moon Fixed
>>14177 thats not me dumbass. its some fag who changed their name.
>>14181 >thats not me Use a tripcode or a vol signature when posting then >dumbass tone it down buddy
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>>14181 You were arrested by the tought police for saying dumb@$$. Next time insult others with terms from the list of allowed words, like "antisemite", or "racist".
>>14184 kek >>14181 cool your jets dude. please remember you are the face of /christian/. your heated responses and choice of words will be scrutinized. go ahead and talk that way on other boards. i come to /christian/ to get away from the language and behavior you see on other boards.
>>14184 >>14185 Exactly I'm just messing with the guy. Don't take me seriously
>>14182 >vol signature ah nice. >>14184 >>14185 >>14186 ok
>>14188 hmm it got rid of my name edit: there we go
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Slipped up again. Anything better than once a week seems to not work through willpower alone. New plan: Alternative action that I can train myself in, Pavlov's bell style, like eating a certain sweet. Also, finding something to do that I can do wherever, whenever I am so I can work through the temptation. The problem is that it needs to be something that can be done while I'm tired and will go to sleep soon too, so neither mental nor physical strain is an option. Maybe I'll try playing an instrument or something.
>>14880 https://easypeasymethod.org/ its a 4 hours read, please please please read it and accept everything he says without a doubt its for a better future
>>14894 >please read it and accept everything he says without a doubt but thats not the bible!
>>14880 >not work through willpower alone If you can't rely on willpower alone I have no sympathy for you. I don't know how you can except to survive hell or even be worth saving if you are not exemplary in spirit.
>>14928 >he relies on human willpower This is everyone's problem in this thread
>>14936 God's will our hands.
>>14936 Your problem maybe. Only the strong willed will escape hell.
>>14937 No wonder you can't stop cooming
>>14941 Only Jesus can escape hell you Pelagian
>>14942 $10 half the people on this board have coomed within the last 5 days.
>>14945 $100 dollars Antichristhater 69 has coomed in the last five minutes
>>14945 Wow, the blind leading the blind. What a "church" you have here pastor.
>>14947 im gonna need $100 dollars buddy. Cash or Check. >>14948 not a church unfortunately although thats a cool idea. Just a place for young (probably) men and women (unlikely) to come and talk about religion
Yes everyone please talk about religion on the /christian/ board.
>>14950 >splitting hairs over the stupidest of things for a board that hates Jews so much you sure do act 'Jewish'
Now for all ye damnable sinners in this thread, pathetic and miserable, know that you will be going to Hell for your sins unless you believe in the Lord Christ Jesus and repent. For as surely as scripture testifies, it must be preached: >And others save with fear, pulling them out of the fire; hating even the garment spotted by the flesh. Jude 23 So stop sinning and polluting your person, which is the temple of the Holy Ghost of God (1 Thess. 6:19), and cut off the hand by which you work death unto your soul, for as the Lord saith: >Wherefore if thy hand or thy foot offend thee, cut them off, and cast them from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life halt or maimed, rather than having two hands or two feet to be cast into everlasting fire. And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life with one eye, rather than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire. Matthew 18:8-9 By the will of man alone can nothing of merit be achieved, but what is impossible with man is possible with God (Mark 10:27). Only by relying on the power of Lord Christ Jesus who has already bought you from sin at the price of His own blood (Heb. 9:12) shall you glorify God in your body and your spirit (1 Cor. 6:20). As the apostle Paul bears witness: >For though he was crucified through weakness, yet he liveth by the power of God. For we also are weak in him, but we shall live with him by the power of God toward you. Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, unless ye be reprobates?  2 Cor. 13:4-5 And as Paul continues, and so do I: >But I trust that ye shall know that we are not reprobates. 2 Cor. 13:6 Therefore I charge ye by the power of the living God: Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand. Matthew 4:17
>>14952 >ye olde LARP
I am NOT "pelaginoid"! But the thing is this: What we think of as hell is actually a spiritual world that exists in parallel to our own. It influences us, and we influence it to a lesser degree. When we die, we always go to hell. Most people's souls get reabsorbed pretty quickly, or they get snatched up by spiritual predators. There's an entire ecosystem out there, and human souls are at the very bottom of the food chain, so only the very strongest souls survive. These are people we'd call saints or gurus on earth. Sometimes, these souls will live on as disembodied spirits, either becoming demons themselves or returning to earth as enlightened beings. Jesus Christ was one such being. Millions of years after his initial death, he chose to be reborn from a virgin to uplift all of humanity into Enlightened Beings. Those who believed in him would be taken to paradise, where they would remain until they were ready to be reborn again on earth. However, Jesus's original teachings were lost to time, and now only corrupted copies remain. However, spiritually aware individuals often experience visions from Jesus, and gain flashes of insight into the true religion. This happened to me while I was meditating in a cave;a smoky figure appeared and began to dictate this post to me. This is what I mean when I say only the strong willed escape hell.
>>14952 Jesus saves so im not reading all that lol
>>14952 Where in the bible is this Jonathan Edwards fellow?
>>14954 >Jesus is a normal guy, but spiritually strong >There's other people on the level of Jesus >We always go to hell >Souls are mortal >human souls are at the bottom >Jesus brings you to paradise >Gospels are corrupted You're on so many layers of heresy here, I probably missed a few. >A smoky figure began to dictate this post I'll give you a hint now because I've heard a story like this before: That smoky figure wasn't Jesus, it was a demon. Go to confession, pray, and find an exorcist post-haste.
>>14961 >find an exorcist post-haste. Is this the /christian/ version of take your meds schizo?
>>14954 >I >I >I You only worship your own ego. Its so obvious but metaphorically your still in the cave looking at all the fancy ego projections.
>>14959 page 5
>>14953 This. Going to church is a LARP. Imagine thinking you are actually gathering in worship of Jesus like Peter and Paul.
>>14971 what would be cool is if someone gathered up a group of people and sat down in a park, had lunch, and discussed the Bible like they did in the early days, then sang praises. Truly that would be based.
>>14971 >artificially speaking in ye olde Englische because you're a LARPer is sacred tradition, burn heretic!!
>>14973 >using the correct plural English form of you is LARP, because I'm too mentally retarded to know that it accurately reflects the usage of the word in Koine Greek, Hebrew, and Latin
>>14978 >correct That's not how language works >accurately reflects the usage of the word in Koine Greek, Hebrew, and Latin The word 'ye' does not exist in these languages, and these languages are not the same language as English
>>14982 >what is translation https://uhg.readthedocs.io/en/latest/pronoun_personal.html >masculine plural second person - אַתֶּם‘ - attem - you >feminine plural second person - אַתֵּנָה‘ -attenah - you >ῡ̔μεῖς • (hūmeîs) >second person plural personal pronoun: ye, you, y'all, you guys https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E1%BD%91%CE%BC%CE%B5%E1%BF%96%CF%82 >I wish modern English had a different form for “you” plural. It would solve some sticky translation problems. So until then, I guess we all have to learn some Greek. >Philip finds Nathanael to tell him about Jesus, and Nathanael responds with his now famous, “Can anything good come from [Nazareth]?” (John 1:46). Jesus tells Nathanael that he saw him under the fig tree, and Nathanael responds “Rabbi, you are the Son of God; you are the king of Israel” (1:49). >But then Jesus says, “Jesus said, ‘You (πιστεύεις) believe because I told you (σοι) I saw you (σε) under the fig tree. You (ὄψῃ) will see greater things than that.’ He then added, ‘Very truly I tell you (ὑμῖν), you will see (ὄψεσθε) “heaven open, and the angels of God ascending and descending on” the Son of Man’” (NIV, 1:50-51). >Did you notice how the number of the second person pronoun shifted from singular to plural? There is no way you would pick that up from the English. Jesus is talking (apparently) just to Nathanael, but in v 51 he shifts to speaking to Nathanael and Philip. >But there may be even more. >The shift to the plural may also signify that the fulfillment of this promise includes all the disciples who would, over the next several years, experience the power of the coming kingdom of God. Carson comments, “The fulfillment of the promise of 1:51, the culmination of the Father’s attestation of the Son, the privilege of seeing the glory of the Son of Man — these transpire throughout the Fourth Gospel, and are climaxed by Jesus’ death and resurrection” (page 164). >This is why the ESV has the habit of including footnotes when the Greek is so obscured by the English. “The Greek for you is plural; twice in this verse.” So also the NIV and probably others. https://zondervanacademic.com/blog/you-and-you-singular-or-plural-monday-with-mounce-139 https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/vos >vōs >you, ye, you all; nominative/accusative/vocative plural of tū
But since this thread is invaded by a Pharisee who is arguing over the letter rather than the spirit of scripture, here is the post re-written for you currently hellbound retards: Now for all you damned sinners in this thread, pathetic and miserable, know that you will all be going to Hell for your sins unless you believe in the Lord Christ Jesus and repent. For as surely as the Bible says, it must be preached: >And others save with fear, pulling them out of the fire; hating just as clothes stained by bodily functions. Jude 23 So stop sinning and corrupting your being, which is the temple of the Holy Spirit of God (1 Thess. 6:19), and cut off the hand which you are using to bring death for your soul, as the Lord Jesus said: >Therefore if your hand or your foot causes you to sin, cut it off, and throw it from you: it is better for you to enter into life crippled or amputated, than having two hands or two feet to be thrown into everlasting fire. And if your eye causes you to sin, gouge it out, and throw it from you: it is better for you to enter into life with one eye, than having two eyes to be thrown into hellfire. Matthew 18:8-9 By human willpower alone can nothing of value be done, but what is impossible with man is possible with God (Mark 10:27). Only by relying on the power of Lord Christ Jesus who has already bought you from sin at the price of His own blood (Heb. 9:12) can you glorify God in your body and your mind (1 Cor. 6:20). As the apostle Paul says: >For He was crucified in weakness, but He now lives by the power of God. For we are also now weak who are in Him, but we will live with Him by the power of God sent upon you. Examine yourselves, whether you're living in faith; prove yourselves. Do you know not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is within you all, unless you're all disqualified failures? 2 Cor. 13:4-5 And as Paul continues, and so do I: >But my trust is that you will all know that we are not disqualified failures. 2 Cor. 13:6 So I order you anons by the power of the living Lord God and Saviour Jesus Christ: Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand Matthew 4:17
>>14984 The word 'ye' is an archaism that does not exist in modern English, cope harder
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>>14993 This poster is an antichrist who doesn't know Jesus is King.
>>15009 >This poster is an antichrist Sir are you aware you will stand before Christ's throne and be judged for every idle word?
>>15010 >idle You are what you are.
>>15012 This poster is an antichrist who doesn't know Jesus is King.
>>15017 Begone satan
>>15045 Begone satan
>>15051 Begone satan
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Please pray for me anons, i have failed No-Fap day one.
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>>15140 to the forest anon, i will pray for you.
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>>15140 Stop posting your anime faggotry here.
im a coomer, im better than i use to be back when i was 12 and 13 but i still fail habitually. Its hard for me to even go a week without cooming, thankful my tastes arent as fucked up as they use to be but i still find myself going back to some of the more degenerate things sometimes. I fucking hate my life, God keeps punishing me by holding me back from my goals due to my sin but i just cant let go for some reason, it literally feels like im posses, i hate it. I just want to be free from this so that i can live my life and do whats right but i keep failing and letting God down and thats the worst part of all.
>>15366 very relatable, anon. wow
>>15217 >he can't distinguish anime from some random gay pedo korean shit Are you that spammer shill from /islam/??
>>15386 >not wanting gay anime images to be posted somehow means that i'm a shill for /islam/ Do you really like gay anime pictures that much?
>>15409 >>15386 that faggot shouldn't be posting his gay anime pictures here. he has admitted to being a faggot
>>15421 Who are you to judge him? You're a loser, IB denizen and probably a virgin Incel too. Step down your high horse, puritan moralist.
im tired of being a coomer, im tired of being a nobody, im tired of sitting in front of this stupid computer all day all alone. i want to do something with my life, i want to do something good for the world.
>>15465 Join a Christian ministry, i did after meeting a very out going christian and now we give food and offer prayer to the homeless camp every week.
>>15423 You're just a troll doing exactly what you're accusing others of doing.
I'm trying to fight against being an evil person, but it's impossible if God doesn't even want to shine a single ray of his light into my life. I hope I can find a way to become mentally/emotionally stable.
>>15471 I don't want to feed homeless camps wtf
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I don't want to watch those weird sex films because they'rean experience ruiner and same thing over and over. Not even plot that is written better than Amy Schumer's terrible humor will make me watch it. I would rather watch The Room than watch those stupid sex videos.
Currently 8 months into nofap, except now I think it's affecting my physical health. Without ejaculation/discharge the prostate becomes engorged/backed up with excess seminal fluid that affects everything else surrounding it, the most common cause being frequent urination, and could also have other negative health side effects. It also causes a "buzzing" in my nether regions and makes getting aroused a lot easier, which is obviously bad for nofap. Normally the body resolves this through wet dreams so it discharges on its own, but for me those are few and far between. So what I'm looking for is some way to "clear" my system that doesn't involve voluntary orgasm or seeking pleasure. Do I have any options here?
>>15893 Does anyone have any suggestions?
>>16176 Speak to a doctor
>>16176 Back when I was anorexic I was completely asexual
>>15893 Seminal fluid gets reabsorbed into the body. Just stop ejaculating and the body with readjust itself, just like when someone stops doing substances they will feel withdrawal symptoms. If it gets truly excess your body will produce nocturnal emissions. Take it as a cross to bare and offer the suffering up to the Lord
Do you guys think it's possible for women to find a husband who doesn't watch porn, doesn't have fetishes, and is against sex work?
>>16268 Of course, the same goes for men trying to find a women that doesn't do any of that as well. You have to look in the right places, church being the best place to start.
>>16268 I think there should be at least a few in this board. Unfortunately you can't tell for sure if someone is not a coomer without getting to know them well unless he lives in an off-grid hut in the desert. Good luck with the husband.
>>16268 > is against sex work? You mean prostitution? Yeah, I think that last one wouldn't be that hard to find. Not a widespread depending on where you live belief but easier to find than the first two. Someone who doesn't watch porn or have fetishes would most likely be against prostitution as well.
Is it ok to still poke fun at porn/rape/whatever as a former porno addict or should you be a stoic? I'm still anti-porn/rape/whatever but lots of us have a wicked sense of humor.
>>16934 It depends I guess. I mock people with especially weird fetishes, because I find them to be bizarre and ridiculous. But rape jokes are a sensitive thing, especially around women as they find it to be uncomfortable or kind of intimidating if men make light of it. Just save your edgy humor for select people, and try not to make jokes that glorify porn/rape.
>>16268 >Do you guys think it's possible for women to find a husband who doesn't watch porn, doesn't have fetishes, and is against sex work? Grow up kid, being mature means being comfortable with your sexuality and finding alternative ways of expressing it. You crypto-mudslimes are soo prude.
>>16951 >you crypto-mudslimes are too prude. No it is the modern world that is too filthy. Yes, muslim are known to be more traditional nowadays but we should aim to be even more traditional. When I quit porn I became much happier you should try it too. There is nothing mature about being crypto voyeur. Fetishes likewise are probably some scars on your mind. You shouldn't reinforce them. Maturity is striving for the best and not letting your passions and hurt feelings control your life.
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My friend disappeared about half a year ago after announcing that he got a gf. He didn't respond to any of our messages and most of us were kind of annoyed, since it seemed like he simply got a gf and dumped the rest of us. However today out of nowhere he resurfaced, saying he's had a spiritual revelation, that this woman has actually helped his faith more than ever before, and they are planning on getting married (although not engaged yet). He also stated that they have avoided as much physical contact as possible (they haven't even kissed, says they're saving it for their wedding) and, what struck me the most, he deleted his Steam account (it was a huge one, very high-level, lots of games and big money items, essentially his equivalent of "camel through the eye of a needle"). I can tell from the way he's talking that he's serious about all of this and has undergone a profound rebirth, and as a result it's making me look at myself objectively and confront questions/answers that I normally wouldn't bother myself with. His piousness is only reminding me of things I hate about myself, chief of that being the endless struggle against lust/porn. Which is why I have finally trashed the dead weight that was my onahole/lube/other objects of lust. It is in the dumpster and I am not going to pull it out. I bought it years ago when I was still deep in my depravity, and although I hadn't used it in a long time, it was still in the back of my closet as dead weight. I am currently on nine months of nofap, and have started marking off the calendar days I have not watched porn. I have been virtually attending church and confessing my sins and asking for God's strength in resisting temptation. Yet after doing all of this, there has been no catharsis as I expected. Of course I did not immediately expect God to hand me a gf for finally getting rid of my lust, nor have I been actively seeking out a Godly woman. But I feel as if there is yet another part of me that is missing, something else I must do to reclaim God's love and favor. All I can think of is confessing my shortcomings to my friends, which quite frankly terrifies me, which only validates my belief that it is what must be done. Does anyone else have any input? Any idea on what comes next?
>>17057 tl;dr didnt read lol
>>17057 "Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, To an inheritance incorruptible, and undefiled, and that fadeth not away, reserved in heaven for you, Who are kept by the power of God through faith unto salvation ready to be revealed in the last time. Wherein ye greatly rejoice, though now for a season, if need be, ye are in heaviness through manifold temptations: That the trial of your faith, being much more precious than of gold that perisheth, though it be tried with fire, might be found unto praise and honour and glory at the appearing of Jesus Christ:" 1 Peter 1:3-7 We are promised eternal life in Jesus Christ, which is the greatest promise anyone could ever receive. But that doesn't mean the rest of our time here is going to be all sunshine. The above scriptures say that the manifold temptations of this world might put you in heaviness while you're waiting for Jesus to return. 2 Peter Ch. 3 explains that God is not slack concerning his promise, but is giving humanity this time so more people can repent. The end is going to come in God's timing, but let us bear this heaviness for a little longer if it means that more people will be saved. Remember that God's longsuffering meant that there was time for us to hear the gospel and be saved. You can't "reclaim God's love and favor", because you never lost it. Christ purchased it for you with his blood. It's easier to bear these temptations if we keep in mind what's awaiting us in heaven. It's when our mind slips into default mode that we lose perspective and are discouraged by earthly desires. I find that my mind slips into default earthly mode whenever I'm not reading the Bible. Like, even an hour after putting it down I'm already thinking differently and risk getting discouraged. In this day and age, other than reading the Bible, I don't know what a man can do to keep God's promise in remembrance all day.
>>17057 Trust me anon, you'll look back on your life in a few years after having been rid of all of these vices, and be so happy you did. You'd wish you did it sooner. The immense appreciation comes later on once you live to see what you've been missing out on. When you can finally be with a girl, and have a wholesome relationship with her. When you experience selfless passion for another person, and the intimacy between you. The tenderness and compassion of that will be more gratifying than the lonely pleasure seeking that you've been confined to.
Would i get into legal problems if i go to confession and confess to a rape?
>>17143 People have confessed to crimes and promptly had the police called on them before. Look it up.
>>17143 >>17144 This is why confessions are bullshit. God already knows, so there is no need to tell anyone anything.
>>17168 Lol lmao he thinks he gets forgiven without confessing his sins.
>>17168 >>17170 Just confess your crimes directly to God.
>>17170 "And the prayer of faith shall save the sick, and the Lord shall raise him up; and if he have committed sins, they shall be forgiven him. Confess your faults one to another, and pray one for another, that ye may be healed." James 5:15-16 There's healing value in confessing your sins to another human, but I can't think of any scriptures that make it a prerequisite to receive God's forgiveness. >>17171 This.
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>>1789 Natural biological human functions are a "sin"? Is urinating and defecating also a sin according to whoever or whatever you got this from? Where is the logic in any of this post?
>>17173 Masturbation isn't natural you baitposting faggot
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>>17173 Yeah, true, I have to watch porn and masturbate everyday or else I'm gonna die from intoxication!!!! GGRRRRRR, it's all the stupid fucking "natural biological human functions", dude...!!!!!!!!!!
>>17173 What was the site for making these pasta pictures?
>>17180 Try making a real argument next time. Oh wait this board is about making christians look as stupid as possible. Well done.
>>17173 Rape is natural and it's still a sin, just because something is natural doesn't make it right.
>>1789 As someone who followed that 99% more than anyone else. Don't stress yourself, It's practically all bs that no one follows. Even those that preach it the loudest. >Concubines in Bible Modern equivalent of a f**k buddy >Polygamy of King David >F**king multiple holes >Still listed as friend of God All those around you who you think are prim and proper you learn about years later were at it like rabbits. >After this chapter in my life, I concluded that the healthiest thing to do was to masturbate once a month to get it out of my system and to be able to live my life without being entranced by sex all the time. This is the best solution. Don't worry you'll not have a sexual desire when you're old.
>>17196 >rape is a sin Wrong, the bible encourages rape and conquest, this is how all the best christians like Hernando Cortez and Godfrey Bouillon behaved through the centuries as well as many prophets of the old testament. Might has always made right, I know Christianity is the true religion because it has no trouble acknowledging this.
>>17297 >Polygamy of king David You mean when he killed a woman's husband out of lust so they could have sex and then God punished both of them? >Fucking multiple holes >Still listed as a friend of God God's not going to ditch a good tool over something nearly inconsequential but there's a reason why lust is banned. Once you degrade sex into a pursuit of pleasure it's only a matter of time before you begin to devolve. The David and Bathsheba story is a good example of that.
>>17311 >You mean when he killed a woman's husband out of lust so they could have sex and then God punished both of them? No, unless you're referring to when the prophet told him off and referred to lambS plural. i.e. his multiple sex partners that God was OK with his friend having. Absalom screwing his dad David's many sex partners in a tent orgy couldn't have happened if David only had one wife could it?
>>17311 >ditch a good tool over something nearly inconsequential >implying multiple sex partners is wrong So that's why God blessed Israel for f**king four different women?
>>1789 >I would like help and advice on defeating my sexual desires without committing sin. You are stuck in your head. Demons obviously like to visit you there and persuade you away from God and into gratifying your sensual pleasures. What you can do is to start doing 'Jesus prayer'. Just keep repeating 'Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me' without ceasing. At first repeat it aloud, then in your mind and finally you should be able to keep repeating it in your heart. This will protect your intellect from distraction and render it impregnable to diabolic attacks. >Additional question: Why did God give me (and other men) such a strong sex drive Because you are a being of flesh and soul thus you have fleshy desires and your free will is always tested. Would you rather have one tremendous test on specific time in life or a lifetime of learning and getting further to God?
>>18350 Forgot to add this
>>18350 >flesh is bad lmao if flesh was bad in the first place God would not have made it. The desire to sin is the turning of the flesh against its natural purpose
Is it possible to expunge specific thoughts/fantasies from your mind or is it all over for me?
>>18355 Gay thoughts again anon? Don't worry, pray to the Lord, and know that if it is not His will to grant it in this life you will be free of it in the next.
im having pedophilistic thoughts, in my case should i apply the same principles towards women with little girls? like dont looking at them or photos of them? >also please pray for me i really want to be delivered from this
>>18374 You should avoid causes of lust in general. Praying for you brother
>>18374 >/christian/ goes on a crusade shilling on IBs >userbase are self-hating brown gay pedo trannies wew lad
>>18374 Is this the pedo spammer? Did he finally repent?
>>18418 thanks, brother >>18419 sick people are the ones that need a doctor >>18430 no, im not that guy, i was actually thinking about going to those sites and preach but i will probably get banned and doxxed
>>18442 >i was actually thinking about going to those sites and preach Please don't go to child porn sites
>>18419 It's no different than anti-gay republicans being exposed as filthy drug addicted sodomites, they do not practice what they preach. >>18442 >sick people are the ones that need a doctor See the wounded healer archetype >In Greek mythology, the centaur Chiron was a "Wounded Healer", after being poisoned with an incurable wound by one of Hercules's arrows. Jung mentioned the Chiron myth "wounding by one's own arrow means, first of all, the state of introversion" >For Jung, "a good half of every treatment that probes at all deeply consists in the doctor's examining himself... it is his own hurt that gives a measure of his power to heal. This, and nothing else, is the meaning of the Greek myth of the wounded physician." >no, im not that guy, i was actually thinking about going to those sites and preach but i will probably get banned and doxxed You are sick, you have not healed yourself yet and you think you can cure the masses, you are a pathetic pedophile and a larper.
>>18450 ok,sorry... >>18451 and your point is?
>>18451 Jung and Greek mythology is pagan. Begone heathen.
What do you guys do about the porn flashbacks? I get such strong mental images and if I don't nip it in the bud immediately, the fantasizing, it leads to me having a relapse. Any tips on how to conquer this would be much appreciated
>>18451 >archetypes Take your meds schizo
relapsed again, didn't jack off but indulged in a lot of porn. pray for me please.
>>2487 Murder is inevitable, and should therefore be allowed but regulated
>>15140 TransPunk?
>>20501 >>20508 Be careful gayanon, the mods are watching.
not gay, andi only ask because the images he's posting are eerily similar to someone i knew a long time ago
>>20501 This website hosts porn. If your serious about not sinning then don't come to this site.
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I said on an IRC channel that I loved Virgin Mary so someone linked art tagged with virgin_mary on Danbooru so I looked up the tag out of curiosity to see other art and found a lot of porn and heresy. Am I fucked? I deliberately didn't set it to only show SFW stuff so I am partly guilty, but there were "heresyologists" in the early Church so... and my intention wasn't to beat off to it or anything, just curiosity. I didn't really think it through very long... I'm Catholic so if it's sinful I'll have to confess to my priest about it, and I can't even imagine how I would explain something like that.
>>20608 But to clarify I did not beat off to any of it nor did it even provoke lust or anything. I felt bad and quickly clicked out of it.
>>20608 >>20609 Same here, i regreted clicking on the blacked booru link that was posted here months ago. >I did not beat off i did
>Masturbation is a sin No it isn't. That's just a reading comprehension fail of the Onan story.
>>1789 >Defeating sexual desires >Be autistic enough to actually do this >Get old >Be alone >Realize it's all bs and NO ONE who is in a "loving relationship" or has a family did this >ABSOLUTELY F*KING NOOOOOOOOOO ONNNNNNNNNNE!* Even the sweetest innocent holy-holy ones. >Re-read Bible >King David dozens of sex partners and multiple wives. God is OK with this. >Solomon - 1000+ fk buddies. God is OK with this. >Abram - wife + mistress. God is OK with this. >Israel - 2 wives + 2 mistresses. God is OK with this. Creating a family requires sexual activity prior to a marriage ceremony (i.e. what is normally defined wrongly as "fornication"). If you don't she will believe you're not interested in her or gay. Shit suxxs, but hey I didn't make the rules. Sex is actually marriage. What you call "marriage ceremony" is only a public ritual of what those couples are already doing in private. *Anyone married with kids who says they didn't fool around/cheat on/date on the side with someone else before settling is telling you they are a liar. It's that simple. Just be smart and think your head (=love) more than your dick (=lust).
>>20711 >Anyone married with kids who says they didn't fool around/cheat on/date on the side with someone else before settling is telling you they are a liar that doesnt mean doing it wasnt wrong. WAIT AND STOP CUMMIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIING
>>20640 Lust is a sin, Anon. Let's not make excuses for our sins, but abstain from sexual immorality.
>>20640 The law of Moses says Masturbation is a venial sin. You're not put to death for it, but you are unclean until nightfall and have to do a penance.
Only for infidelity?
>>1789 >>20713 >that doesnt mean doing it wasnt wrong. 1. Be right. Never know human-human love. Get condemned for no love. 2. Be wrong. Experience human-human love. Get blessed for loving. Those are your two choices. I chose 1, and got condemned by all for not loving. Everyone else chose 2, and got blessed with family + prosperity to a greater/lesser degree.
>>20756 Schizos and autistics are already incapable of experiencing human love so they have to use some form of self-righteous virtue signaling to feel better about it.
>>20756 >>20760 i experimented a deep love with a girlsometime ago, i end up creeping her out and decide to escape from here, knowing that im an inmoral man that will only corrupt her i abstain from being with her, not wanting to scare her nor wanting to fall in inmorality with her is that love or selfishness? if i dont have love as it says in corinthians 13 i go to hell? if i cant feel love (yet) i go to hell?
>>20773 >love maybe it was just lust idk
>>20760 >Schizos and autistics are already incapable of experiencing human lust >gods are already incapable of experiencing human lust obviously, you degenerate. gods find fornication unnatural because they are gods. the fact you unconsciously conflate "lust" with "love" shows up your carnal mind clearer than if you had it written in a branding mark upon your forehead.
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The Bible gives one solution to burning lust. Paul says get married. That's it. He says if you don't have self-control over this, get married. So I would focus on that. "Ooooh that's impossible I'll never find someone." Are not all things possible with God? You foolish unbeliever, so pray on this. There are places and ways of meeting women and it might be long-distance but I would suggest looking of course for someone in your territory. I believe if you both are communicating in real-time together and having pleasure it's okay, looking at another woman in lust is sin, but I also say masturbating by yourself to images of your wife is not okay either. Most people who think they're "destined to be celibate monk" are not, they just live in a terrible society that cucks them from the opposite sex. Also get married before engaging in any sexual thing, you don't need a ceremony and certainly not the go-ahead from the secular atheist government. If you step out in confidence and faith it's really not a big deal and it will last. You are a little peanut afterall. Paul says further in not the same words: What is marriage, all this world will be faded soon and we have so much concern and care for every detail of this world and ignore the simplicity. Observe OP's fatalism. See how satan has one up'd him and given him a black eye. tsk tsk tsk. Now I'm not here to talk down of course. But To say that for many the solution is indeed to find a girl and not be fatalistic about it and doom and gloom about it but do be careful and be quick to marriage. If she isn't quick to simple marriage then that is sign to stay away. Because once married one partner must commit sin to end it.
>>21212 this faggot retard weab is the loser janny who deletes everything that triggers Xher
>>21268 No I am not, of the three people using this board I am not him or you, my posts got deleted too. And you seem to be very upset. I would calm down because you're using foul language and blaspheming me and probably others. You talk like that to me again I might start posting even more anime, because I can and am allowed to and it is not sin. Nothing "official" should have anime, the board owner should not have stickied anime stuff but should only use photos. That's what I would do if board owner, because when you're a leader you have more responsibilities to set examples. But feel free to rant and rage at the anime, I hope you've spent at least some other time to day with more important things.
>>21273 A good way to think about it is; if you want to be pastor of a church and you really like anime, I don't want to see your "Christian anime" poster on the window of the church. Someone comes in with some christian anime T-shirt okay, but you the pastor have more responsibility. Hmm? Yes. You say: "ahh but no it's a cultural thing futaba imageboards are culturally animeic and therefore buh buh" Disagree. I think anon.cafe is not inheritably animeic and /christian/ makes no indication by name that it is anime culture and I don't see a reason a need for it or that it need be. No one ever knows what they're doing and the only people who lead in this society are people who should be following but have a haughty mind.
I know that through God all things are possible, but sexual sin really does seem insurmountable. I've been able to give up other addictions, including alcohol and tobacco, relatively easy. In those cases it was easy, I think, because the object of addiction was avoidable. In order to not drink, I merely had to avoid buying alcohol and cigarettes. This was shockingly easy for me. Sure, I definitely had a strong craving for those things, especially in the first couple of weeks. Hell, I still have plenty of moments where I crave a drink, or a smoke. Nonetheless, I have been able to conquer these with relative ease, and these things have very little power or appeal except in occasional moments of weakness. I also used to be very overweight and binge on food. This too I overcame, albeit a lot more slowly. Still, I was able to lose about 25 kilograms (about 55 pounds) over a year. I've put on a little bit of weight since then, but generally speaking I'm a lot better than I once was. I'm not saying all of this to toot my own horn, but rather to point out that I generally have pretty good self control. I'm no ascetic, and I'm certainly not immune to desires and wants, but I have been able to work at and conquer these sorts of desires in the past. It may be painful, and unpleasant, and I might stumble, but I will make progress. That's the way most everything in my life has been. Sexual sins and desires, however, seem to be a completely different beast. Sexual desires feel innate to me in a way that no other sinful desire is. I can feel them in my marrow. Unlike alcohol, tobacco etc. there is no way to avoid all contact with sexual thoughts and acts, as sexual organs are an integral part of the human body and sexual thoughts seem to be an integral part of the mind. It'd be like if an alcoholic had a bottomless vodka bottle attached to his hip at all times, and if getting drunk was necessary for procreation and the continuation of the human race. What's more, the one legitimate outlet for relief from these desires is now closed to me, possibly forever. Unlike the other anons in here who've struggled to find love, I'm already married. However, my wife told me a week ago that she no longer wants to have sex with me as she doesn't have a libido, and the sexual act itself is unpleasant and somewhat painful for her. She also said it wasn't my fault as a partner. I'm a good husband, I work full time, I help around the house, and I'm attentive to her needs. Without being too graphic, she also said it's not any failing on my part as a lover, and she's always praised me for being very attentive in that regard. Basically, despite all my efforts, I probably won't ever have sex again. If I do, those occasions will be very few and far between. At this point I'm completely lost as I feel like I've tried everything including Saint Paul's advice to get married. I'll pray more and try more, but I think this is the one kind of sin that will haunt me to my grave and beyond. I hope and pray for deliverance and forgiveness, but unfortunately I have a hard time believing I'll get much of either.
>>22607 Lord help you. I think the solution is obvious, get married. I don't mean "fire" your current wife, continue to care and provide for her. But the simple fact is you need a sexually-functioning wife, and you are well within your rights as a devout Christian to take a second wife. The only admonition Biblically-speaking is that you shouldn't do so if you are a church leader. The turmoil of keeping multiple women under your roof together is the reason for the guidance, btw. I know polygamy is highly-frowned on in the completely-pozzed feminist West, but w/e. It's Biblical, and that's certainly a higher authority.
>>22609 Thanks for reading and replying anon. We're going to investigate exhaust any potential underlying physical or mental causes before I would even dare to seriously bring up polygamy. It's something I might bring up in future though. Thanks anyway anon. I normally hate these kinds of self pitying blog posts, but being able to get this off my chest did actually help. God bless.
>>22615 You too Anon. I'll pray you find an effective solution in the new year. Cheers.
>>22607 Going to completely ignore what >>22609 suggested in regards to polygamy, as it is most certainly not advocated by God (people bring up Daniel all the time, the way the Bible mentions it simply states it as a historical fact rather than it being ok, marriage is and always will be between one man and one woman, no more, no less, no different). Talk with your wife. Why does sex make her uncomfortable? Does it cause her physical pain? Does it bring up emotional turmoil from some past experience? Marriage is a contract between a man and a woman; your body belongs to her, and hers to yours. If one of them is not holding up their end of the contract, there could be other underlying reasons as well. It could also be a medical issue, if she used to have a sex drive but no longer does that may be hinting at something larger. And finally, God forbid, she may be seeing someone else and merely no longer wants to have sex with you. There are a lot of reasons, some legitimate, some scary to think about, but ultimately I believe you two should seek counseling, from both the Church and other sources, to find out what the ultimate issue is.
>>22607 >I'm attentive to her needs My friend, that is the problem. You are pleasure-oriented for your wife. She sounds egoistical, mentally damaged and she has not attraction towards you. Denying her body to you is a grave sin and constitutes marriage-fraud. She has no reason to deny her body just because she does not feel like it. An incel has it better than you right now. Women are fundamentally servile to and want to please men all the time. If you gave too many occasions for her to feel the opposite it is natural she will despise you and deny sex. The time of reperation will be long and you need to realize you are too soft with your wife.
>>22607 >she doesn't have a libido, and the sexual act itself is unpleasant and somewhat painful same old history, sorry brother but she does have a libido, but you arent attractived to her anymore
>>22607 rekindle the love. you know what i mean.
Matthew 22:37-39 ''37 Jesus said to him: Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with thy whole heart, and with thy whole soul, and with thy whole mind. 38 This is the greatest and the first commandment. 39 And the second is like to this: Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.'' Romans 13:9 9 For Thou shalt not commit adultery: Thou shalt not kill: Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness: Thou shalt not covet: and if there be any other commandment, it is comprised in this word, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. Clearly, God and Church teaches us, in scripture since the Law of Moses, that it is a mortal sin to harm someone else. If you love God you keep the first three commandments, and if you believe in the Lord you keep the 7 to not harm your neighbor. It's why I have an issue and reject the false gospel of Aquinas; he changes this teaching and made a mortal sin out of the slightest temptation. You can mortally sin, according to Aquinas, with nothing more than an impure thought. You are damned to hell, according to Aquinas, for sins that harms no one. Aquinas said that thoughts of sex are a sin against your own body and thus a sin against the Church, and thus you are damned. This is not what Pope Saint Pius X taught in his catechism, and if a Pope says, then no "saint" or church father can change it. You have to go by the teachings of the True Popes™. And the law of Moses says that Masturbation - the spilling of your seed, is not a mortal sin. You didn't get stoned for it. You did your penance and were unclean until evening i.e. the rest of the day. It doesn't break the bond you have with God as adultery might.
>>16268 Yeah I'm right here B) Seriously, though, absolutely. I think most men (especially those who aren't extremely online) are like that underneath, but there's a lot of pressure on people who want to be "normal" to (for example) support prostitution or pornography as acceptable even if they don't partake in it themselves. Obviously there are also a lot of coomers who genuinely do like those things. If you're looking for one specifically though, they probably hang around churches.

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