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John 3:16 KJV: For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.


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Anonymous 01/01/2023 (Sun) 22:01:33 ID: d0e73e No.22819
There is no scriptural authority for true Christians to worship on Sunday. The Roman Catholic Church instituted Sunday worship to distance itself from biblical Christianity and gain pagan converts. So those who worship on Sunday are essentially saying the pope has the authority to change the Word of God.
I worship God every day of the week.
Why does the New Testament associate Christian worship with sunday and not saturday (Saturn's day)?
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>>22819 John 20:1 "Now on the first day of the week Mary Magdalene came to the tomb early, while it was still dark, and saw that the stone had been taken away from the tomb." Acts 20:7 "On the first day of the week, when we were gathered together to break bread, Paul talked with them, intending to depart on the next day, and he prolonged his speech until midnight." 1 Corinthians 16:2 "On the first day of every week, each of you is to put something aside and store it up, as he may prosper, so that there will be no collecting when I come." We all know that you just wanted to skip out on church today since it's New Year's, OP.
>>22826 You got it. Jesus Christ, true man and true God, arose from the dead on the first day of the week. So, by tradition we worship on Sunday and not Saturday. New covenant. >>22821 I have no idea about that and I leave the judgement to the Lord. But... The Lord did not pick a woman to be an apostle, and Saint Peter wrote that women should not be allowed to teach men or speak in Church. Thus scripture is against any woman being the founder of a new religion having anything to do with Christ.
>>22820 This is about the day which God blessed and sanctified, a day which we're not to work in honor and celebration of the Creator. You can worship God every day of the week, and you should, but if you rest every day of the week, you're not holy, you're just lazy and idle. >>22821 Sunday keepers are pedophiles and homosexuals. Look at the Roman Catholic Boylover Cult. Don't throw rocks when you live in a glass house. Not only that, I don't even read anything she's written nor do I care what she's written personally. You can't even defend your rituals and traditions so you lash out at your boogeyman. >>22822 It doesn't. >saturday (Saturn's day)? I call it sabbath, as does many languages in the world. But if we want to play that game, you celebrate the "venerable day of the sun" as it's called by Rome, the "sun's day". But it's not like you sun worshippers know of that edict from Rome. >>22826 Where in a single one of any of those verses does God bless or sanctify the first day of the week? Something happening on the day doesn't change God's law nor does it move His holy day. It's obvious you've never studied this, because there's about a dozen verses to every one of yours in support of keeping God's laws and His holy sabbaths. >>22827 By your tradition you violate and make no effect the law and word of God. James 2:10-12 Exodus 20:8-11 Matthew 5:17-19 Revelation 14:12 Revelation 22:14 Ecclesiastes 12:13 I could go on, but all any of you apostate frauds care about is your traditions. You don't care about God enough or even at all if you can so callously disregard His holy laws and commandments. Even taking a day to rest, you refuse to do that despite all the blessings and curses. You refuse to learn.
>>22829 >By your tradition you violate and make no effect the law and word of God. Few of those have anything to do with Sunday worship. ( I suspect the infamous protestant "wall of scripture cites" to drive demons away) James 2:10-12 ''10 And whosoever shall keep the whole law, but offend in one point, is become guilty of all. 11 For he that said, Thou shalt not commit adultery, said also, Thou shalt not kill. Now if thou do not commit adultery, but shalt kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law. 12 So speak ye, and so do, as being to be judged by the law of liberty.'' Nothing there about Saturday vs Sunday. This one is better... Exodus 20:8-11 ''8 Remember that thou keep holy the sabbath day. 9 Six days shalt thou labour, and shalt do all thy works. 10 But on the seventh day is the sabbath of the Lord thy God: thou shalt do no work on it, thou nor thy son, nor thy daughter, nor thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy beast, nor the stranger that is within thy gates. 11 For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, and the sea, and all things that are in them, and rested on the seventh day: therefore the Lord blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it.'' And on Sunday, we remember that Christ arose from the Dead an sits at the Right hand of the Father Almighty, having completed his labors in saving humanity on this earth. Compared to the creation, saving our wicked souls was a bigger miracle than creating the Universe. This one is tangential: Matthew 5:17-19 ''17 Do not think that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets. I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill. 18 For amen I say unto you, till heaven and earth pass, one jot, or one tittle shall not pass of the law, till all be fulfilled. 19 He therefore that shall break one of these least commandments, and shall so teach men, shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven. But he that shall do and teach, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.'' The argument you can make here is the commandment to keep the Sabbath holy. It's a fair argument, but Sunday worship is a Christian tradition, and church tradition is scripture 2 Thessalonians 13-14. Revelation 14:12 <- Doesn't mention Sunday. Revelation 22:14 <- Another red herring, not relevant. Ecclesiastes 12:13 <- Says keep the commandments, like Matthew 5:17-19 but Church tradition is part of the Christian religion. Please try and keep the scripture relevant so that rebuttals can be kept short and on point.
But I say to you, whoever is angry with his brother will be liable to judgment,o and whoever says to his brother, ‘Raqa,’ will be answerable to the Sanhedrin, and whoever says, ‘You fool,’ will be liable to fiery Gehenna.
>>22829 Irrational seething >you celebrate the "venerable day of the sun" No, I celebrate the Lord's day which is what scripture calls the first day of the week, which is the Christian sabbath
>>22856 And the scripture about Church traditions? Just going to ignore that? And what about this? Mark 2:27 24 And the Pharisees said to him: Behold, why do they on the sabbath day that which is not lawful? 25 And he said to them: Have you never read what David did when he had need, and was hungry himself, and they that were with him? 26 How he went into the house of God, under Abiathar the high priest, and did eat the loaves of proposition, which was not lawful to eat but for the priests, and gave to them who were with him? 27 And he said to them: The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath. 28 Therefore the Son of man is Lord of the sabbath also. If the sabbath is made for man's benefit, not man for the Sabbath. So says the Lord of the Sabbath. If the Lord didn't mean for us to worship on the day of his Resurrection, he should have come back from hell a day early.
>>22891 Is telling people to kill themselves Christian? >>22890 Revelation 1:10
>>22890 >>22891 I'm missing something behind this. I see some posts have been deleted. Is that what started these angry posts? Were they your posts that were trimmed? It's not just Catholics who worship on Sunday, the Orthodox and most Protestants worship on Sunday as well. I've read different reason for this, like after the third Jewish revolt the Romans had enough of jewish war making and put an end to them. Christians didn't want to be seen going to Church on Saturday least the Romans mistake them for Jews. Father told me it had to do with the Resurrection on Sunday, and the new covenant and that the day of rest and worship was for us and not tied to a particular day. I wasn't around 2000 years ago.
During the covid shut down, we had to sign up for Mass. There were families that would sign up for Sunday. Catholic families tend to be large, so if there were 5+ to a family, one old man signing up could bump a whole family. My family wasn't Catholic and had no interest in going. So I went on Tuesday. We didn't have to sign up on Tuesday. Tuesday became my "Holy day" out of necessity. Since we had to sign up and be checked off on Sunday, the Priests (we had two) knew who wasn't going to mass. They also knew that the sign ups were filled within 5 minutes, and that a third of the Parish couldn't be accommodated. It kinda stung when the priest who taught catechism said I sinned by not attending on Sunday. I bit my tounge and didn't point out that he and the other priests could and eventually did, still could say two more masses and accommodate everyone. If the day or rest and worship is for our benefit, then how does it matter what day we rest and worship, as long as we do? Am I really going to hell because there was no room in the pews for me on Sunday? Well, I confessed that "sin" anyway, but what worried me more was that I wasn't sure if my repenting was valid since I didn't understand how what I did was a sin and not a mercy for accommodating better Catholics than me.
>>22926 >From the latin: díes Domínĭcus, which means "day of the Lord Jesus" Jesus isn't in that
>>22927 Who do you think "LORD" may refer to, in a christian nation? You have to be a special kind of dense to miss that.
The idea of the preeminence of Domínĭcus was established by the tradition of the Catholic Church since the first century, confirmed through various councils and the writings of the Fathers of the Church. This is the day which the Lord has made; let us exult and rejoice in it. Psalm 118:24 On the first day of the week, when we were gathered together for the breaking of bread, Paul, who was to depart on the morrow, conversed with them, and continued his conversation until midnight. Acts 20:7-12 On the first day of every week, each one of you should set aside a sum of money in keeping with your income, saving it up, so that when I come no collections will have to be made. 1 Corinthians 16:2 In fact, Paul of Tarsus says: Let no one come to criticize you for what you eat or drink or for not observing feasts or the Sabbath day, for these are but shadows of the reality which is Christ Jesus Colossians 2:16-17
>>22819 This kind of thread is the result of "American Education" Catholic majority nations don't call the day of the Lord Jesus Christ, "Sun-day", that's a thing only in protestant majority nations, who were apparently not fully christianized the first time they came into contact with christianity, or maybe it was the protestant reformation to make them move backwards back into paganism. Catholic majority nations have since centuries changed the name of their feast day to reflect their christian faith. The real question is, why are protestant nations still using the old pagan name for the feast day dedicated to the LORD ??? who is really worshipping the sun here? Not those nations where no day of the week is named after the sun. (also thanks mods for deleting the previous post explaining the same, apparently truth is not important in protestantism or for whoever pushes this hateful attacks fueled by jealousy, only blind ignorance is important for such persons)
>>22927 >Domínĭcus Domine: Lord.* I believe in God the Father Almighty, Creator of Heaven and Earth. And in Jesus Christ, Our Lord... *"Dictionary of Ecclesiastical Latin", Stelten, 1995 ISBN 978-1-56563-131-1
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>>22930 >based bishop, crosses are pagan cath*kike idolatry Technically, we cath*kikes don't use crosses. We use Crucifixes. The cross + body of Christ = Crucifix. Because we are not to forget that it is the sacrifice of Christ, his scourged and bloody body, that offers us a path to salvation. I'm not sure why protestants removed it. Guess they don't want to think about the sacrifice. Best answer I've ever heard for why no corpus of Christ was "Christ risen". Okay, but that's not the law of Moses. Nothing says to sacrifice the unblemished lamb and if the lamb comes back to life you're petition to God is forgiven.
>>22819 Do you have a scripture that says we're supposed to worship (and not just rest) on Saturday? >>22929 "Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days: Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ." Colossians 2:16-17 KJV This can't be said enough. I'm quoting another translation just to emphasize it. I've seen a lot of Seventh Day Adventism pushing lately, claiming that Sunday worship is the mark of the beast, and you're hellbound for not keeping the Sabbath. Read Galatians. It's short, and is addressed to a congregation falling into the lies of judaizers who claimed that you can't be a Christian if you're not physically circumcised. Seventh Day Adventists make the same error with the Sabbath.
>>23024 not OP and this isnt Scripture but the Romans called the seventh day "Saturday" which was named after their god saturn who was basically equivalent to the king of the gods. The reason they chose this name is because they viewed Yahweh as a equivalent to saturn and thus marked His Holy day as saturday.
Acts 5:29 ! I like this scripture. It debunks all Protestantism. the Talmud as well as the Summa of Aquinas and all personal revelations.
>>22938 Austria is a Catholic-majority nation and call it Sunday. Your argument falls through. Same with Poland, Crotia and Orthodox countries besides Russia who call Sunday "no work [day]", which is likely derived from Communism.
>>22819 Keeping the Sunday as the holy day is part of the reason why persecutions are much rarer and you're no longer a pacifist cult. There are esoteric reasons for it that I won't get into, but for once the "pagans" saved your ass.
Saturday is the 6th day of the week and 6 is the number of the devil! It's trying to trick you into worshiping satan!!
>>23519 according to the Romans who named the Jewish holiday Saturday (Saturns days) after their god saturn who they associated with Yahweh and according to the Jews who kept the laws of the old testament for millenia, saturday is not the 6th day.
It doesn't mater if you choose Sunday or Saturday because modern human use of the 7 day calendar is such a (relatively) recent thing there's no way to know to it actually aligns. Any day has a 1 in 7 chance of being the right one.
The apostles celebrated the Lord's Super on Sunday So Sunday we do as Christ told us to and eat the body and blood during communion
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>>23519 the weekly cycle has never been interrupted all the losers ITT just want to preserve their traditions rather than learning the laws of God and following them >>23058 your cult is not God. God said keep the seventh day HIS HOLY DAY, THE DAY OF THE LORD, He said to keep THAT day holy. Not any day you want or one the catholic cult promoted.
>>23554 sunday is the seventh day of the week
>>23554 your cult is not God. you worship Saturn like the apostate fraud that you are God said keep the seventh day HIS HOLY DAY, THE DAY OF THE LORD, He said to keep THAT day holy. Not any day you want. And SUNDAY is the seventh day of the week you lying viper.
I'm exposing these sick saturn worshiping cultists.

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