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Anonymous 05/03/2022 (Tue) 06:36:11 No.9971
Looks like we've stirred up the hive.
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>>9972 >outlawing baby murder is violating religious rights for Jews Synagogue of Satan and all that.
>>9973 When they say "Jewish Values" theyre referencing Reform (liberal) Judaism. Its the same thing as when a Liberal Christian says that God supports gays or something. Just autistic dribble that invokes the name of a religion that has nothing to do with the political topic, and in reality despises it.
>>9971 >Jewich sect becomes one of the most violent antisemitic group in history heh
>>9971 FYI, this is what has all these evildoer's panties in a knot (in case anyone here didn't know): >>>/k/33599 >tl;dr They don't get to kill babies anymore!111 Deus Vult >Where were you for CivilWar2 Grandpa? >>9974 >ust autistic dribble that invokes the name of a religion that has nothing to do with the political topic, and in reality despises it. LOL. Stop being a Commie, Anon. It's the Synagogue of Satan. Until they repent, they are still worshiping Moloch, as in the days of yore.
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A toast, brothers
>>9977 >Stop being a commie im not, im being a realist.
>>9971 Compliment accepted but rabbi should watch his language.
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Glory to God. Hilarious how Christians are Right wing extremists to the left/liberals and left wing sympathizers to the right. Everyone just describes Christianity in their own political lens ,they just call us irrationally hateful and call it a day. But when ever the left or liberals are buthurt it can mean only good things for Christians and in this case for embryos.
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>>9971 >muh Patriarchy!
>>9992 >Hilarious how Christians are Right wing extremists to the left/liberals and left wing sympathizers to the right. glad im not the only one who notices that.
>John15:18 “If the world hates you, keep in mind that it hated me first. 19 If you belonged to the world, it would love you as its own. As it is, you do not belong to the world, but I have chosen you out of the world. That is why the world hates you. 20 Remember what I told you: ‘A servant is not greater than his master.’[b] If they persecuted me, they will persecute you also. If they obeyed my teaching, they will obey yours also. 21 They will treat you this way because of my name, for they do not know the one who sent me. 22 If I had not come and spoken to them, they would not be guilty of sin; but now they have no excuse for their sin. 23 Whoever hates me hates my Father as well. 24 If I had not done among them the works no one else did, they would not be guilty of sin. As it is, they have seen, and yet they have hated both me and my Father. 25 But this is to fulfill what is written in their Law: ‘They hated me without reason.’[c]
>>9977 >Deus Vult go outside >>9984 9977 is mentally ill
Other boards have mentioned their satisfaction over the abortion ban, but i feel like image board culture doesn't actually care about the murder of babies, they just jump at the chance to mock the awful liberals and leftists crying about their feminism.
>>10000 > but i feel like image board culture doesn't actually care about the murder of babies, they just jump at the chance to mock the awful liberals and leftists crying about their feminism. thats the internet for you
>>10000 >but i feel like image board culture doesn't actually care about the murder of babies IB are fill to the brim with commies, mudslimes, kikes, sodomites(Natsocs), Homofascists, trannies and shitskins. What good can come from here?
>>10002 Then why are you here?
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>>9998 >9977 is mentally ill >go outside go back to reddit
>>10002 >sodomites(Natsocs) ok whatever >>10005 exactly
>>9977 >They don't get to kill babies anymore!111 Heh. The actual tl;dr is that it's a state issue now unless Democrats pull some bullshit in the house/senate in the next few months. If they fail to do that, you'll see hyperpolarization of states around the issue of abortion which will accelerate the cultural civil war leading to a hot war even faster.
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>>9978 Kanpai!
>>10000 Essentially in most cases, yes. It's the clash between salt and eugenics for many non-Christian conservatives. I've seen nationalist rhetoric justifying banning abortions and nationalist rhetoric complaining about it, but ultimately nobody seems to care about the life of the child.
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>>10014 >nobody That's a funny way to spell 'Leftists' Anon.
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>>10016 Yes I said nationalist rhetoric, I thought that was clear.
cant they just define crushing a living babies skull as murder? if a doctor murders a baby, throw the doctor in prison. simple as. Just look at the difference between a premature delivery and an abortion. the only difference is during the abortion, the doctor makes sure the baby does not survive the delivery. whats that called when someone makes sure something doesnt survive something?
Praise God. The mass execution and genocide of the unborn will be ground to a halt slowly. Many are showing their true faces right now. NatSocs are /pol/ LARPers are identically having a meltdown since they operate fundamentally on the same paradigm as leftist baby-killers.
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>>10028 """Judaism""" is actually just liberalism. Banning abortion hinders liberalism and so therefore "violates their religious rights".
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>>9971 >>9972 Abortion is a commandment
>>10028 Ain't trying to offend anyone but I don't believe in god.
>>10030 its a good deed for me to manufacture and give machine guns to my neighbors therefore the government cannot arrest me for it. >checkmate commies
Recite the Apostle's Creed in the comments and see how they like it.
>>10000 I do care. The world has been made objectively less awful and I'm glad for it.
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For anons not in the loop being directed here, this article will help: https://archive.ph/v87pd Important parts greentexted for your viewing pleasure here: >>>/k/33652
>>10167 Wait no that was the wrong link I meant to link this fag: >>>/k/33599 My apologies.
>>9974 Abortion in non-Liberal Judaism has precedent, but it's mostly shaky for anything that is not a case in which the mother would be dealt severe physical or emotional harm as long as rodef doctrine (the view that the child is a person with the intent to kill) isn't followed. Further, abortion of a gentile by a gentile is punishable by death, and Jews are forbidden to aid the practice of such things. Orthodox Judaism views it as a form of murder, but it's still allowed to prioritize the woman's life over the child's.
>>10182 How is abortion not bad
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>>10182 >Abortion bad Abortion bad. Show otherwise. Nigger babies is not an excuse since it's self-correcting.
>>10189 I will always love the Mio Honda anti degeneracy edits, also does anyone have the anti LGBT one?
It's pretty obvious why Jews are claiming this is an infringement on their religion. It is. They might have to drive to another state now to make their sacrifice to Moloch. I'm not too familiar with burger business but I'm assuming this means individual states decide for themselves whether child sacrifice is legal? At least some of you guys won't be forced to host these places in your communities anymore. >>9977 >Deliberations on controversial cases have in the past been fluid. Justices can and sometimes do change their votes as draft opinions circulate and major decisions can be subject to multiple drafts and vote-trading, sometimes until just days before a decision is unveiled. The court’s holding will not be final until it is published, likely in the next two months. Hmm. Well I guess we'll see what happens. It's interesting that they seem to be adopting a similar position that I've held for years which is "What rights?" You can't just declare X to be a right and then cry until you get it. But that's exactly what these people do. They begin their campaigns already talking as if it were an established right being infringed and without bothering to demonstrate why it should be a right. It's also not self-evident at all that it should be even if you don't recognise it for the child sacrifice it is. >>10199 That I do.
>>10189 this would be better if it had citations through-out the video like some other Honda video edits.
honest question: why are there so many Jews saying this is an integral part of their religion? where in the Tanakh or Talmud does it command women to have abortions? and don't respond saying it's about Moloch worship, i really doubt there's any people who do that outside of a few particularly edgy LARPagans.
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>>10351 70% of american Jews are reform. thats why, Orthodox Jews hate abortion aswell as homosexuality's and a list of other things
>>10332 >I'm not too familiar with burger business but I'm assuming this means individual states decide for themselves whether child sacrifice is legal? tl;dr- >Roe vs Wade was never meant as a permanent solution >Congress had 49 years to come up with a legislative compromise to "legalize" or "protect" abortion at the federal level >Faggots insisted the ruling WAS the legal protections when the justice statements at the time said it was not >Now that it's going to be overturned it will be a state's rights issue >If they don't overturn it, all credibiltiy of the SCOTUS will be lost since it will be assumed intimidation made them back down >As soon as it happens most of the middle states have abortion bans already in effect ranging from rape/incest compromises to hard bans You can see which states will and won't based on >>10015 Grey states aren't actually grey. Colorado for instance allows abortions up to the minute the baby is born.
>>10350 Several of the things are opinion statements rather than facts (even if true) so I'm not sure how you would source that.
>>10351 From what I've been able to find there are certain instances where abortion is protected for the mother such as if she is impregnated by a gentile, raped, etc. The average Jew only thinks "my rabbi said abortions are ok so you are infringing on my religious rights if you ban them" without further clarification.
>>10367 >>10413 alright, thanks for the clarification, that explains a lot.
>>10351 Reform/Liberal Judaism sees the individual as moral and the one who ultimately decides how the Law should be interpreted as well as whether or not the Law is to be enforced/followed. It's deliberately meant to be incoherent. The majority of Jews in America are Reform, and the majority of politically active/vocal Jews are Reform. They have argued that last minute abortions should be allowed since any sort of restriction on moral choice would deny a worshipper's autonomy. Among Jews they are the literal worst, milquetoasts who may as well be "cultural" Jews similar to "secular" or "cultural" Christians or Protestants.
>>9971 Why do they always project so much? Is it because they control the system and have the power to silence or ostracize anyone who speaks truth to power? >>9972 >Christian supremacist That's quite the projection considering what the Talmud teaches >>10000 Don't bear false witness.
Rulings soon. Could be any day now.
>>10015 I made an updated map. Blue indicates abortions are legal after viability or receive state funding without exceptions if restricted. Red indicates trigger laws that will go into effect banning abortion as soon as SCOTUS makes the ruling, or equivalent restrictive policies regarding them in conjunction with state healthcare not funding them. Purple indicates states that are fence-sitting between what is just and what is satanic. You can also use it as a rough map of who will be on what sides during the coming Civil War by 2030 at the latest.
>>12745 The red and purple ones worship Baal and Mammon instead
>>11498 >Why do they always project so much? Is it because they control the system and have the power to silence or ostracize anyone who speaks truth to power? Because they're crazy due to talmud teaching, being raped when they're in their synagogues by their rabbis when they're really young not trolling. Vice did an article about that. It's a big problem and inbreeding.
>>10367 >thats why, Orthodox Jews hate abortion aswell as homosexuality's and a list of other things The push it to Christians as hard as possible in order to ruin them spiritually, and also to fuck their lives up in the long term. Brother Nathanael made a good video on that. Well, he made a bunch of good videos
>>12749 Yes, yes, but eventually you have to consider the existential crisis at hand.
>>11498 >Is it because they control the system and have the power to silence or ostracize anyone who speaks truth to power? I cannot judge a man blinded by power if he is capable of realizing that he himself was blinded, but mad beasts must be put down.
>this person was actually in charge of "inter-faith dialogue" activities >wrote a book about it Clown world.
>>13021 >I cannot judge a man blinded by power if he is capable of realizing that he himself was blinded, but mad beasts must be put down. Very aptly put. Poetic even
>>9974 I don't know if this is true. Isn't the Talmud morally relativist by nature? There's at least one story in the Talmud about a rabbi who defeats God Himself in a debate so wouldn't that imply that as long as you can convince everyone that something is right then it is? The Jewish "god" clearly being fallible kind of annihilates the idea of objective morality.
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>>10012 >you'll see hyperpolarization of states around the issue of abortion which will accelerate the cultural civil war leading to a hot war even faster. Finally some good news. I've been itching to kill some satanic commies for years.
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>>13142 the Talmud isnt a story book its a catalogue of scholarly debates and analysis, i dont know where you heard that story from. You could argue tho that it is somewhat relativist but by that logic any moral code or ideology that can be interpreted differently is relativist so i would say no. >>13144 based
>>13142 > I don't know if this is true. Isn't the Talmud morally relativist by nature? Yeah. That's why they act and live the way they do. This (((guy))) >>13145 is being disingenuous.
>>9974 >AntichristHaterHeathenSlayer69 How many of you are there in this board? I've counted like 5 in this month alone
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>>9971 Update: IT IS DONE Supreme Court overturns Roe v. Wade, ending 50 years of federal abortion rights >The Supreme Court on Friday overturned Roe v. Wade, the landmark ruling that established the constitutional right to abortion in the U.S. in 1973. >The court’s controversial but expected ruling gives individual states the power to set their own abortion laws without concern of running afoul of Roe, which for nearly half a century had permitted abortions during the first two trimesters of pregnancy. >Almost half the states are expected to outlaw or severely restrict abortion as a result of the Supreme Court’s decision. Other states plan to maintain more liberal rules governing the termination of pregnancies. >“The Constitution does not confer a right to abortion; Roe and Casey are overruled; and the authority to regulate abortion is returned to the people and their elected representatives,” a syllabus of the opinion said. >The case that triggered Roe’s demise after nearly a half-century, known as Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization, is related to a Mississippi law that banned nearly all abortions after 15 weeks of pregnancy. >Dobbs was by far the most significant and controversial dispute of the court’s term. It also posed the most serious threat to abortion rights since a 1992 case, Planned Parenthood v. Casey, in which the Supreme Court reaffirmed Roe. https://web.archive.org/web/20220624141534/https://www.cnbc.com/2022/06/24/roe-v-wade-overturned-by-supreme-court-ending-federal-abortion-rights.html https://www.cnbc.com/2022/06/24/roe-v-wade-overturned-by-supreme-court-ending-federal-abortion-rights.html
>>13149 some retard was copying my name but that is the real me right there
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>>13281 It's even better because Clarence Thomas' papers states that civil liberties like Gay Marriage can also be challenged in court as a state issue.
>>13281 >>13286 >>13287 >>13288 itll all be left up to the states which poses its own shit show but its a step in the right direction. Question is whats our Enemies goal long term? Was this just a fluke where their blackmail/intimidation failed or is this strategic?
>>13289 We're heading to civil war either way so I want to maximize state's rights during the interim. We're in bleeding kansas anon.
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2000 years of genocide Woah what about your 4300 years of you guys chopping of foreskin
I don't think we'll be here for the turning against Christians I wish we were. The powers of evil do not need to do everything in one life time. Clearly they're slowly changing people generation at a time trying to get a higher percentage each time. But pure debauchery and hatred for good is still a minority, the majority of people aren't on board with the gender stuff and the whatever stuff. Of course that minority was once smaller and is growing but the devil doesn't even need the majority anyways because he's actually intelligent unlike his useful idiots, he only targets the places he needs to change things over time. Evil thrives where the devil needs it, in the schools and well government in general. It is my dream that I would be here for the actual global turning against Christians and banning the Bible and all this stuff the devil is going to want to do before the end times. I want to be there. But instead I'm here for the age where man children make tweets. And maybe that'll be the thing the whole way through, evil is so lame. Where is the underground lair for the WEF where they build giant robots to attack cities or when are they going to blow up the moon or release the fish men. Instead of anything cool all we get are idiot politicians, mad tweeters and blue haired people who write articles. "Hehehe I wrote an article saying porn is good for you! Muhahahahah! Delightfully devilish Seymour!" Evil people who have all this power all they do is have sex with children and then horde money and try to keep people moderately poor and dependant. And then they load up food with vegetable oils to give people heart cancer. No fish men? No giant robots? I just want to move on honestly. I think everyone is about done with Earth 1.0. What else do we want to do here. Everyone currently believes they're monkies which evolved from Mars. Is there anything else that needs to happen? Sounds like maybe we've gone about far enough.
>>13298 give it another generation or so and the end times will 100% be here. They already got many of the zoomers and the next generation is gonna be 10X worse. I wouldnt be surprised if it happened within the next few years given how passive and manipulatable the "conservative" population is. Remember, we're just one good crisis away from another 1917 revolution
>>13291 >not muh heckin sodomy and fornication enablers!
Reddit is mad at us, look out!
>>13307 Good thing they also often have automatic weapons in rural areas
>>13289 Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Today has enough trouble of its own. Matthew 6:34
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>>13307 >laughs in bush Christian
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>biggest achievement in Christiandom in 50 years >shows that Christians are able to organize and brigade electoral systems to pressure for change in public policy over the long term >people here still make demoralization and blackpill posts out of their own self-pity This board has too many performative "Christians" and neurotics that probably don't even go to church and haven't been born-again in Christ. For the few here that do, I hope you all have a great time celebrating the victory of the church with your brothers and sisters in the body and the blood of Christ this weekend.
>>13307 >Laughs in 2A >Laughs in local hunting club I'd take them good old boys over the Uvalde police force any day.
>>13315 What achievement? I thought this thread was about cringe tweets.
>>13315 >every post is happy and/or making fun of anti-christians You sure you know what a black pill is? Because I don't what that is but I imagine it's not that.
>>13307 That post glows hard
is anyone going to talk about how roe v wade is kill?
>>13323 What do you think this thread is for? I don't like framing it inside Roe vs. Wade. All SCOTUS did in regards to killing babies is make it a state issue. The important part was Clarence Thomas' Constitutionalist dissertation that directly said that other Civil liberties like fag marriage, access to birth control, healthcare, miscegenation, etc. can be challenged on constitutional grounds as state issues. This ruling is important and the left is pissed not because they can't kill babies (they are angry that they will be outed for worshipping Moloch now), but because this ruling means that regressives have to reform their philosophy from stage one. "Progressive" philosophy is based on the pursuit of happiness as a human right from which all other rights they claim to exist (tranny shit, gay shit, etc.) can be derived. This ruling flat out says "no, they are not enshrined in the constitution and you need a constitutional amendment or else these are civil liberties/privileges." E.G. SCOTUS saying it is the federal government's job to protect existing rights and institutionalized new ones through a supermajority constitutional amendment, and that rights are derived from the constitution, not created. The entire thing is pretty ingenious and the fact that they released it on a Friday is a very ballsy move.
Point being the culture war is back and Conservatives have a thin window of a few years to go on the offensive and dominate the narrative/perhaps permanently realign it before the Left can punch back or regroup.
>>13298 Anon the previous generation was when the world turned against Christians. You're late to the party. We're living in the age of a post-Christian society. The next generation will be where it gets interesting since that will be the second/third generation removed from Christianity that did not grow up in a Christian moral framework and thus will have no objective morality without God.
>>13307 These stupid city slickers seem to forget most of rural America is armed and has stand your ground laws. Firemen are hours away but so are the cops and paramedics. Idiots.
>>13329 >Firemen are hours away but so are the cops and paramedics. Idiots. yeah lol, it takes the cops 15 minutes to get where i live. I could shoot some commie vandalism a local church and run home before they even got there. But i imagine theyre betting on the fact that nobodies gonna do anything which is probably to some degree true since most people these days are pacifist. The only people i could think of who would take a stand is some of the old school Southern Boomers and thats because theyre a pretty rough n tumble crowd.
>>13331 Well, not to be the preacher saying "oh won't somebody..." but I think rural folks should take advantage of this, and liberate some godless fatherless adults of their ability to cause harm. And not take responsibility if/when the police show up.
>>13332 do whatcha gotta do. my philosophy is that you dont choose violence violence chooses you.
I just realised this decision was formally released on the feast day of the birth of St John the Baptist. Wasn't he almost killed in Herod's slaughter of the Holy Innocents? Praise God!
>>13354 it was also released on a friday which is an odd day to release a controversial decision, with it being the weekend and all.
>>13355 I think that was intentional. Judges derive their protections from randoms through the executive branch, and the executive branch is refusing to prosecute protestors outside their homes. By having the ruling on a Friday they are ensuring there's riots all over America so that the Left can't cover it up. Either regressives have to deny the violence happened giving conservatives ammunition, or if they do prosecute then SCOTUS can legally sue the FBI for refusing to provide protections.
>>13356 How is the day actually decided? Is it a simple vote between all the judges?
>>13358 IIRC when the judges make a decision, they allow the most-senior member of the "winning" side to determine when to release the ruling. The most senior justice can choose to allow another to hand out the main dissertation related to the ruling.
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I feel like maybe the birth rates got so low that immigration couldn't replace it, and that those in power even felt the need to remove abortion. It just doesn't make sense that we just happen to have a few Christians in power to conveniently make abortion illegal. Can a few Christians in power really have more power than a whole mafia of leftist/ liberals?
>>13380 >BPD and ecstasy conceited with low self esteem >shes a teenage dream if you hate yourself >bright dyed hair and obnoxious clothes thinks communism is the way to go >shes a whore a hole a dime a dozen Jezebel >fluoride mind and SSRI's >a thousand yard stare for all those guys >that she fucked and suck before you came along >retarded views on politics likes to listen to shitty music >she drinks and smokes and tokes out of a dirty bong
>>13381 i mean if im gonna be real theres probably a strategic reason for this all happening its just too early to say as of right now. But theres always the possibility of a couple Justices like clarence thomas etc going rogue too. Either way this will have a relatively small impact on abortion anyways since only about half the states in america are actually banning it and most of them arent even banning it theyre just restricting it. honestly im not even that excited about the ruling itself im actually more excited about the movement of protecting churches from communists.
>>13381 >It just doesn't make sense It makes perfect sense if you've been in politics pre-2016. Political annalists have been saying that America is moving conservative since the 2008. That's why the Democrats have doubled down each election to change the rules and import more illegals. Getting rid of abortion only benefits conservatives in the long run because it forces personal responsibility which brings down the initial surge of progressives; it's been shown women become more conservative after childbirth if they have a male figure in their lives, and a lack of a male figure in a woman's life is directly correlated with likelihood to have children (E.G. you get a "one time" boost to liberal voter blocs before it permanently swings conservative/classical liberal). The 2016 election was such a big deal because Democrats had assassinated Scalia with the intention of having Obama stack the court in their favor, but a populist movement started up preventing establishment Republicans from choosing the Democrat's nominee to strip our rights, which made it so that whoever won 2016 would be stacking the courts for years to come; that's why Obama rushed to fire and rehire judges wherever he could at the end of his presidency instead of pushing the Turkey-Qatar pipeline like he wanted to. I laid out the reason SCOTUS decided to make such a ballsy move in this post >>13326 and this post >>13356
>>13384 >honestly im not even that excited about the ruling itself im actually more excited about the movement of protecting churches from communists. I'm excited because this ruling threw out the last 30 years of Civil Rights-era "pursuit of happiness" bullshit in favor of a hardline ruling saying "these are civil liberties granted by the legislative branch, not constitutional rights that can't be taken away." It's a direct response to Biden trying to expand protections to Trannies on "constitutional" grounds.
>>13385 it wont matter if theres a wave of conservatism if they get your kids. Which is exactly what theyre doing, even in the highly conservative part of the country i live in a large percentage of the zoomers i went to school with dressed like either a whore or a faggot and a couple of kids flat out were faggots and i live in a highly conservative rural area. Lenin said "give me 4 years with the children and ill make them communists for life" and thats what communists are doing and have been doing for nearly 100 years. Each generation since the 60s gets liberaler and liberaler till the point we're at now where we're just one good crisis away from turning the United States of America into the ACCR. whitepills are good because they give us motivation but dont let them fool you either, if we want to save America we're gonna have to rely on ourselves more than politicians and judges. Never forget that theres work to do, and always be improving.
>>13388 >if we want to save America we're gonna have to rely on ourselves We should only rely on the Lord because His gospel is the only thing which will turn the tide.
>>13381 It's very simple, there are three main reasons. Abortion and "my body my choice" got in the way of the vaccine mandates. The Dems also need the abortion issue to anger their base so they have enough energy to get out and vote during the mid-terms. Lastly, the states are balkanizing, and this is one more step in the process of fracturing the United States. The ultimate goal of fracturing the US is to destroy the Constitution and the ideas that go with it, as well as to generate an excuse for the looting of boomer pension funds which cannot be paid back.
>>13390 this is why we cant win because niggas want to split hairs every 3 seconds. We're Christians are we not? Our strength comes from the Lord.
>>13391 Chaos and Control although this go around there wasnt much chaos but division nonetheless
>>13392 It is not splitting hairs to note the only way any repentance which will come to this apostate nation. If we want things to change somebody's gonna have to crack open a bible, and somebody else is gonna have to crack open our hearts.
>>13381 Abortion wasn't made illegal. It's just decided on a state by state basis. The ruling wasn't overturned because murdering kids is wrong, it was overturned because it was unconstitutional. It would be easy enough to just increase immigration so that can't be the reason why. The win here is that, at least on the state level, your community can't be forced to allow the murder of children. >Can a few Christians in power really have more power than a whole mafia of leftist/ liberals? Yes because God is greater than the enemy but that's not what's happening here. At least not in terms of the judges' motivations. I do think this may be relief given from God though. The timing of coming out on the day dedicated to someone who survived Herod's child killing as I pointed out here >>13354 seems like a sign. >>13385 I paid little attention to burger politics before 2015 when every microsecond of it got broadcast to the world in excruciating detail. It surprises me to hear that America has been moving that way since 2008. That would be right after Bush' unpopular second term. I could maybe understand 2010 when the Tea Party thing happened.
>>13142 > Isn't the Talmud morally relativist by nature? The Talmud isn't morally relativist but is meant for interpretation within tradition. However, this excludes denial because it is the word of God. It becomes morally relativist once tradition is denied. When applying concepts equal to sola scriptura and sola fide to the Talmud and other works, morality is lost. >a rabbi who defeats God Himself in a debate The basis of that story is that God gave his word to man in the Torah, so men must debate it. By Hebrew law, the majority rules after debate. With very few exceptions, God cannot retract or argue against statements he has already made, and he tests the group. If the group is wrong, they will face punishment which proves they are wrong. This does not include persecution, since only Hebrews have say. He laughs in Heaven saying they have defeated him because they have passed by upholding the laws and traditions given to them. >>13288 This is great, and I'm glad that Thomas has put his own rights on the line for it. This can be used as precedent for the Supreme Court to be used as a tool for repeat debate and advice for legislature rather than the ultimate decider.
>>9971 Oh no they have to be responsible with there actions. Honestly it isn’t hard to do.
It's over for Christians!
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>>13403 >That would be right after Bush' unpopular second term. Republicans got cocky during/immediately after Bush, but culture studies showed that it looked like it might have happened around 2000, but 2008 was the "last year a Democrat could win" according to many articles at the time. The issue you saw in 2008/2012 was that for Republicans voting on party lines in lockstep is the exception while for Democrats it's the rule. Obama appealed to the center-right during his first election cycle and ran on being king nigger during his second election cycle since while bad everything wasn't terrible, just kind of bad (and presidents tend to win their second terms unless they make Biden-tier fuckups). America has been culturally moving conservative which is why the education system has double downed on messing up kids and permanently shifting the overton window before that change can happen.
Top Roe V. Wade TikTok Freakouts https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMDtyap_qCk >We're going back into the handmaiden's tale >why does this country hate women soo much!
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>>13441 >unless they make Biden-tier fuckups pretty sure Biden's sole purpose here is to just make things as bad as possible for "whatever reason"
>>13444 Yes, people knew he was the candidate to be hated to shift the overton window in a single term in the first place. They're mad because it's not working and has actually swung the other way by locking up the system.
>>13444 >Sending back Cubans You don't know how right that is
>>13447 they can still get it to work if they play their cards right but basically what theyre gonna need is a revolutionary like figure, someone whos populist and who can tell the people what they want to hear but also back up their claims with policy that actually helps (whatever that policy may be). in all reality if this figure does come into existence theyll probably be a crypto commie who intertwines generic populist policy with their communist/socialist ideology. Chances are that this person will be the antichrist.
>>13448 >You don't know how right that is i was just pointing out how they sent back refugees from a communist country yet invited immigrants from the rest of the world.
>>13449 I bet you 50 dollars that in 2050 the Antichrist (the big one, not the little ones) still won't have shown up yet.
>>13458 He definitely won't. The End is far far away. The US just had a positive vote about abortion... Let me tell you in the actual end times you'll be murdered for speaking against abortion. Paul never talks about protesting the horrible pagan Roman Empire or getting laws changed because that would be ridiculous. That's what the end times will be, another echo of Rome. Jesus says there will be tribulation greater than EVER seen on Earth. You will not even be able to buy or sell without worshipping the antichrist, without being part of the system. They're going to chain Christians up and march them to the soylet green factories. I've always wanted the end to come already. But you know in Amos it says "Woe unto you that desire the day of the LORD! to what end is it for you? the day of the LORD is darkness, and not light." Things will get very bad and God's going to come and destroy and it's all going to be unpleasant and God doesn't want that, Revelation says even during the seals people still won't repent.
>>13458 i cant say for certain but ive spent a good deal of time studying Revelation (literally spent an entire day just studying a handful of verses) and things seem to be indicating that this all happens sometime soon, when? idk but most likely within the century. >>13460 >The US just had a positive vote about abortion you realize that was a cop-out right? To my knowledge no actual state (even le based and epic conservative ones) have actually done a full ban on abortion as of yet, most have just restricted the time frame for when you can get one which means that abortion (aka the murder of an unborn child) is still happening just a tad bit earlier than usual. This is hardly a victory, if anything the real victory was the movement of young men protecting their church but that was all. We basically got abortion but with time restraints in some areas while being told that we got it banned altogether. Yet another deception. and the dystopian like persecution doesnt begin happening until after the antichrist takes power and even tho that hasnt happened yet we still see a large amount of animosity brewing toward the religious, this recent ruling and its response are a great example of that, it basically just sent half of America into a anti-Christian rage. Not to mention that the vast majority of people support baby murder in some way, most arent as extreme as the communists but they still support it under certain conditions (even excluding rape and incest)
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These people literally have their own country yet they insist we change ours to accommodate them. I am so sick of these people. 110 when?
I disowned my older sister over abortion on Saturday. We were discussing something unrelated when the topic came up and she became hysterical over the issue and started making things up on the fly (like claiming abortion is only legal in three states and that all conservatives want to strip women of their rights). I finally lost it. She argued every single point in hysterics such as claiming late-term abortions for personal reasons don't exist period or that more than 1% of abortions are rape/incest on the sole basis of me saying it or how "only government sources are true" when I pulled up the Guttmacher project which is pro-abortion showing she's full of shit (with another family member intentionally fanning the flames) until it finally came to a head. It went something like... >"Look, the left has been yanking the chain while the right has been following along patiently for ten years and-" >"That's not true." >"...Alright look, it should be safe legal and rare. If it's not-" >"You're saying a corpse has more rights than me!" >"Alright anonette look, I don't care. As it stands it's murder. One side wants to make it legal up to and after birth, while he other side has been willing to compromise for the last ten years on a set of guidelines, willing to redirect funding for women's health to anything other than abortion clinics, and willing to allow them stilk when the mother's life is at risk." >"THAT'S NOT TRUE!!!!" >"It is but fine. Let me frame it differently; If by all means the baby can survive outside the womb, why does it need to die?" >"It can't survive outside the womb! Late-term abortions of viable pregnancies don't exist!" >"THEN WHY DOES THERE NEED TO BE LAWS SAYING A WOMAN CAN KILL IT AT NINE MONTHS!?" >"Because it's not your body and I should have more rights than a corpse!" >Take a deep breath >"Fine, if it can THEORETICALLY survive outside the womb, if THEORETICALLY a womam said she wanted a late-term abortion of a viable fetus, should the woman be allowed to kill the baby without any attempts to save its life?" >"Well our foster system is terrible so that FETUS doesn't deserve a chance at life; it's MY choice!" >"Well then I'm leaving the state without you, and you and your son can move in with me when you can see reason." >"Good, you CIS White men are why-" >"I'm done." >Slammed the door on my way out This stupid bitch leeching off our mother can't even understand I've been helping our poor mother out because she doesn't even pay rent. She works under the excuse of being unable to find a job; the reality is she's always wanted to be a single stay-at-home mother and my mother is enabling her. I'm done. I'm sure God is looking at me with a certain level of despondence, but I can not try and help raise my nephew in this kind of environment. What kind of parent is cruel enough to blame the ills of our country on the sins of our ancestors on a fucking three year old child? Does she not realize the message she is sending to her own son? God damn it. It's been two days and I'm still barely able to contain my rage. I can't do it any more. I've put off leaving this state for two years for my nephew's sake and I can't do it any more. I really am going to move to Texas or Wyoming and she can join me when she's lost everything because she could compromise on nothing while leeching off the system. I feel disgusted about disowning my sister after wasting two years living in this shithole for her sake. I feel sick to my stomach, sick in my soul, /christian/. I feel even more sick at abandoning my nephew who has committed no sin, but what am I supposed to do when it's illegal for me to take him away from that situation and trying to fight her for custody would result in the courts giving it to his faggot father?
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>>13466 >you and your son can move in with me when you can see reason >she can join me when she's lost everything That doesn't sound like you disowned her, Anon. It sounds like you had a fight and withdrew support until your conditions were met. I know this is nitpicking, but how you see it in your own terms will make a big difference to how you think of it when the rage clears (which it will). I think you have been presented with a difficult situation where your family duties as you see them, your family duties as your family sees them, your nephew's interests as you see them, and your own sanity and personal needs have come to loggerheads. It also sounds like you were deeply dissatisfied with the situation as it was before but were willing to tolerate it because you saw it as your duty to do so. This burst of rage might well inject enough energy to crack that "stuck"-ness, so it might be positive in the end - but take care that it does not run away with you and turn into wrath. Of course, I am sure you will pray on it for some time, over several days, and then do the best you can.
>>13467 why dont you show us what these """bans""" look like? (theyre not bans)
>>13480 Why don't you fuck off, niggerpill.
>>13484 thats what i thought.
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>>13463 >pic rel
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>>13511 Fedora tippers will boycott having any contact with us? I guess we should pray for them for lightening our cross.
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>>13511 there are 6 states as of yet where abortion is outright banned and three where they have heartbeat laws (its still murder to kill the child but i digress), and thats out of 50. so not even 1/10 of the states in America have it banned (as of now). And (correct me if im wrong) but whats stopping any future politicians within these states from just repealing these laws?
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Beautiful. Make them display their true colors that everyone already knew openly.
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Sorry there was a second slide I hadn't seen yet when I posted that, but also no obvious new additions. >Paying up to $4k to have your employee get an abortion because it's cheaper than paying maternity leave Disgusting practices.
>>13530 >not my le heckin based teslarino!!11!1111111
>>13530 >>13531 why are americans so evil?
>>13538 Why did the scorpion sting the frog when they would both surely perish?
>>13517 >not even 1/10 of the states in America have it banned You might want to double check that maths. And there appear to be four states on that map where cardiac activity is the cutoff not three. Plus are those two territories in black as well? I have no idea what those are. What surprises me is that neither California nor New York are green. I've always been told by burgers that those are the prime hotbeds of degeneracy. Instead it's Alaska? What's the deal with that? Too much Canadianness seeping through?
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>>13549 >California and New York The north country won't let them but the cities have declared themselves sanctuaries for abortions a long time ago. Similar situation with Jew York with the countryside/suburbs vs the city. A map-by-county would be more accurate. >Alaska Remnants of the gold rush era. Same reason Colorado and New Mexico allow it since the culture period between the Pinkerton era and the civil rights era are basically one continuous stretch for those states. Historically, where there are lots of men with few women there are whores, and where there are whores, there are babies that nobody will take responsibility for (not even the whores). Not saying it's right just that that's how they maintained a civil society.
>>13530 >>13531 Imagine thinking you are part of an opressed resistance group when you are supported by the entire global finacial system.
>>13549 heartbeats laws is still murder but even factoring in the extra state its still only 1/10 if you include both banned states and heartbeat laws unless you include the territories which im not gonna do which still only be like 7-8 states where its banned and 12 if you include heartbeat laws
>>13558 That's better than none and a foothold to expand.
>>13561 >That's better than none youre setting the bar pretty low here and even then this "victory" is hardly reaching even such a low standard for success. imagine if a doctor or general said that a 12% success rate was "better than nothing" he'd be out of his job. And doctors and generals dont have responsibility over nearly as many lives.
Those who have historically denied personhood rights to humans (and to a lesser extent intelligent animals) have historically lost every single time. We're on the winning side of history the same way the North was ending slavery for better or for worse.
>>13563 >imagine if a doctor or general said that a 12% success rate was "better than nothing" EMTs say it every chance they get and are lauded as heroes.
>>13565 ive never heard a EMT (or anyone for that matter) say that a 12% success rate in regards to saving a human life is "better than nothing" or an acceptable result. I think its time we lay off the hopium and stop relying on politicians and bureaucrats to do our work and stop pretending that our country is heading in the right direction.
>>13566 >ive never heard a EMT I doubt you have ever spoken to one.
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>>13564 you realize the only reason the North won was because they placated actual combat in favor of burning, raping, and destroying the civilian sector of the South right? before shermans march on georgia the north was losing the war despite being a superior fighting force. >>13567 i doubt you have either considering how void of all reality your earlier response was.
>>13558 My point there was 6/50 is more than 1/10 not less as was originally stated. I was just pointing out the extra state and territories since they weren't mentioned. In no way do I think any abortion is acceptable. >>13566 >hopium Aha! Nice try niggerpill. Reminder to all that hope is one of the three most important Christian virtues and is not optional for Christians. Not hope in political processes but hope in God. We ought not ascribe this result to our own doing but to a mercy of God that he should allow us to have this small reprieve. Perhaps this was given to us specifically so that we may hope? In any case we must do so. We must hope for deliverance from our enemies.
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>>13569 >Not hope in political processes but hope in God. that brings me back to my original point which is that we are living in the end times, God will not save us until things have gotten much worse, and even the end time prophecy hints at the existence of a human resistance which implies that hopium is not enough. Revelation 18 is a great example of this.
>>13570 >>13569 After this I saw another angel descending from heaven with great authority, and the earth was illuminated by his glory. And he cried out in a mighty voice: “Fallen, fallen is Babylon the great! She has become a lair for demons and a haunt for every unclean spirit, every unclean bird, and every detestable beast. All the nations have drunk the wine of the passion of her immorality. The kings of the earth were immoral with her, and the merchants of the earth have grown wealthy from the extravagance of her luxury.” Then I heard another voice from heaven say: “Come out of her, My people, so that you will not share in her sins or contract any of her plagues. For her sins are piled up to heaven, and God has remembered her iniquities. Give back to her as she has done to others pay her back double for what she has done mix her a double portion in her own cup. As much as she has glorified herself and lived in luxury, give her the same measure of torment and grief. In her heart she says, ‘I sit as queen; I am not a widow and will never see grief.’ Therefore her plagues will come in one day— death and grief and famine— and she will be consumed by fire, for mighty is the Lord God who judges her.”
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>>13570 God will not make all things right until the second coming but it's false to say he doesn't help us in the meantime. There have been multiple times throughout history when people have been brought to repentance and piety on a societal scale. On this individual level it's even more obvious. Which serious Christian has not had periods of falling away and periods of renewed zeal? Maybe the end times are around the corner and maybe they're not but that's not reason to abandon hope. Even through the darkest times you are and will be expected to hope in God's deliverance. Otherwise, how will you finish the race? How will you not succumb and submit to darkness if you have no hope that you will not? >hopium You just can't stop denigrating virtue can you?
>>13572 >You just can't stop denigrating virtue can you? there is no virtue in complacency disguised as faith
>>13574 Hope is not complacency. Hope is what drives us out of complacency. Because we hope, we know we can strive for better. Because we hope, we know we need not give up. Hope is a virtue just as faith and love are as described in 1 Cor 13:13 whether you like it or not. Nevertheless, I am glad that at least you're honest enough to admit to your contempt for the second of the three most precious Christian virtues and one of the greatest gifts one can receive from God. I took a look back at your posts throughout the thread and noticed that the vast majority of your posts are you trying to blackpill people by saying this is meaningless. It seems almost the only thing you care about is letting everyone know how futile this all is. That's how much you hate hope.
>>13575 >Hope is not complacency. Hope is not but hopium is, Hope is a driving force hopium is the opposite. Hopium gives you a false sense of security and should be avoided at all cost. what ive seen in this thread is pure hopium. People living under the false assumption that everythings going to be ok and that they can just sit by and let God do all the work. And while that may be true to some degree at the end of the day we must recognize that humans are God's tools and if all His tools break theres only so much He can do. God cant help us if we arent willing to help ourselves. even this cop-out of an abortion "ban" (as leftists call it) wouldnt have happened if it werent for God fearing men pushing the envelope.
>>13575 > I took a look back at your posts throughout the thread and noticed that the vast majority of your posts are you trying to blackpill people by saying this is meaningless this is meaningless in the grand scheme of things, the only real victory gained was the energy produced off of it and the movement of young men protecting their churches aside from that this entire abortion fiasco accomplished nothing which was my point. The original conversation was about how we are living in the end times and one anon used the abortion ruling as an example of why we arent living in the end times so i brought out the data to prove him wrong.
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>>13568 >The South should have won REEEEEEEE I. Don't. Care. My point had nothing to do with who should have won. My point is that those who deny personhood rights have historically lost every single time. Even if the civil war had never happened the South would have been pressured by England (their main export client) to end slavery about a decade later. t. Family was from bleeding Kansas on the side of slavery. >I doubt you have either I'm certified (and obligated) to perform emergency first-aid in my state. Not a CPR card (which is included) but the full shebang from tourniquets to handling people in shock. >Post the card OpSec. Believe me or don't you're full of shit, niggerpill. >>13569 >Not hope in political processes but hope in God. Hope in god is knowing you have Jesus on your side when making the earth a better place, not relying on God to do the work for you. That aside I mostly agree with the sentiment.
>>13575 This, honestly. I could write more on the issue, but a you have done in this thread is deflect while sowing fear, uncertainty, and doubt. Much like a certain PLW poster during the trucker riots.
>>13577 >We're living in the end times Just because you want to kill yourself doesn't mean the rest of us do.
>>13578 >My point is that those who deny personhood rights have historically lost every single time. only on technicalities really, even the communists (of which there are many examples) have only really lost because theyre economic ideas were unsustainable, hell even today countries like China not only exist but prosper and theyre still actively genociding people. >I'm certified (and obligated) to perform emergency first-aid in my state. Not a CPR card (which is included) but the full shebang from tourniquets to handling people in shock. cool story bro >niggerpill k >>13582 im not suicidal and never have been youre just mad that im posing a serious threat to your addiction and your brain doesnt like the chemical imbalance created by my sound arguments so instead of being rational and considering that maybe im right or am onto something you instead insist on making non-arguments and throwing insults around. Im literally halfway agreeing with you here yet you still try and argue with me because in reality you dont care about doing whats right you just want an excuse to do nothing.
>>13584 >Only on technicalities Technicalities are a sign of god's greatness and inspiration.
>China If you think China's doing good you really are deep in the niggerpill plot. I'll leave it at that for now.
>>13586 this is why you should read the original posts instead of just jumping in mid conversation to add on your own retarded takes. This conversation originally had nothing to do with what we're discussing now, it had to do with my claim that we are living in the end times and the counter argument another anon made saying that the abortion ruling is proof that we are not. I provided evidence backing up my claim and then you tards jumped in and started something completely else and now we're arguing about political action to which you responded that the regime will die by itself because it denies a persons personhood, i responded with the historical fact that most of the regimes you pointed too only failed on an unrelated technicality to which you responded that it was Divine intervention that killed them which contradicts your earlier claims that they were dying off naturally and implies that we are living in the end times because God would have no reason to intervene in geo-politics in such a way if we werent currently living out revelations. >>13587 just shut the fuck up
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>>13589 >Not jump in halfway in Buddy I've been in this thread for weeks. I think your entire argument about the end times being upon us is garbage. It's called a VPN.
>>13591 >I think your entire argument about the end times being upon us is garbage if you dont believe its the end times after everything ive shown you and everything going on in the world today then you were never going to believe in the first place in which case i dont really care what you think.
>>13593 Bro every generation for the last 1800 years thought conflict in their era was indicative of the end times.
>>13597 >comparing middle age drama to literal one world governments, rampant degeneracy on par with sodom and gomorrah and the days of noah, and a growing hatred for Christianity especially in the west. do end time deniers even?
>>13600 We haven't even gotten close to the shit they were doing in Weimar Germany, the French Revolution, the Spanish Influenza pandemic, Mao's China, the Burmese Junta, The Khmer Rouge, the American Civil War under Lincoln's tyranny, and Stalin's USSR (let alone the absolutely godless state of degeneracy under Lenin) among many other examples in the last two centuries. The WEF holds pretty much zero power outside of Europe/America and some vassal states. Things are bad and are going to get worse, they may even come to rival some of those disgusting times in history, but if the Soviet Union wasn't the end times then some people chemically castrating themselves amid gas price hikes, global famines, and threats of nuclear war (a meme) are pretty mild compared to some of the absolute degeneracy and disregard for human life that has taken place in recent history.
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"niggerpill" "just shut the fuck up" "shit" Listen to how you guys talk, you all need to be spanked.
>>13606 I have the mouth of a sailor and had the hard life to back it up, but you're welcome to get a taste of birch candy if you wanna try.
>>13603 >Weimar Germany, the French Revolution, the Spanish Influenza pandemic, Mao's China, the Burmese Junta, The Khmer Rouge, the American Civil War under Lincoln's tyranny, and Stalin's USSR (let alone the absolutely godless state of degeneracy under Lenin) i said we are in the end times i didnt say at what point and it wont all just happen in one day, revelations will likely take part over the course of 1-2 centuries if not longer depending on how you look at it. Hell if you actually look into some of the verses and compare them to recent historical events (i use the word "recent" loosely here) then the Four Horsemen arrived almost 200 years ago. and i really dont think you fully comprehend just how much worse things are going to get. Obviously i cant back up those claims because its all in the future but if we keep heading in the direction we're heading we will literally be nosing diving toward the conditions need to necessitate the rise of the antichrist, those conditions being chaos and suffering which will manifest as desperation. Which for those of you who are not historically inclined is the primary condition needed for a major change in power, a good example of this is communist revolutions, the way they get into power is by exploiting the desperation of lower classes who are easier to manipulate due to their conditions, the only difference now is that instead of exploiting pre-existing desperation theyre creating their own. Why do you think Biden's president?
>>13606 sorry.
>>13603 >We haven't even gotten close https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czxDxeW7F-M we're there, buddy. while i believe many of the signs indicate that we are indeed in the "end times" i also agree that there are many times in history when people thought it was the end times, and that there is a high likelihood that the current regimes which we believe to have control of the world are swiftly losing their control and will topple in the coming years. many signs do indicate we could be in the end times, and we must live as if we are even though it may be another 1000 years.
>>13606 I'm not sure if using those words is actually a sin. It's my understanding that when the swears and curses the Bible talks about are the original meaning of the word. The Bible does speak against using foul language, Paul himself once said he wished people who demanded circumcisions to emasculate themselves which Most people would consider that foul language. So what is foul language, and is it a sin or simply distasteful?
>>13621 Without knowing Greek I can't translate the literal passages, but cursing was understood to mean swearing at someone and the bible states on several occasions that it's a sin as is foul language. It also implicitly says that you can use foul language among groups of men so long as you are doing so without truly ill intent.
>>13621 Foul language is improper and a hurdle for salvation. You dirty the image of God when doing it against others since they are made in his image and thus are unlikely to truly wish for universal salvation. Insults, such as "rada," are the equivalent to murder. To curse someone means to wish harm to befall them, which is almost always indicative of sin, becoming a sinful action if something like magic is used. Insults may not necessarily be foul language if truthful, for to call a snake a snake isn't a sin.
>>13650 >Insults may not necessarily be foul language if truthful, for to call a snake a snake isn't a sin. This is also true. It's like how wrath is a sin, but righteous indignation is never a sin and is encouraged.
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>>13650 >Insults, such as "rada," are the equivalent to murder Rada rada rada, rada RADA?!
>>13660 Based
>>13660 Thank you for the laugh. I haven't thought about Chowder in ages. "Rada" is a word specifically mentioned to be equal to murder. Christ says that use of it should be punished in the greatest manner possible. It translates to an extremely harsh "worthless".
>>13384 >honestly im not even that excited about the ruling itself im actually more excited about the movement of protecting churches from communists. Can I get a quick rundown?
>>13753 just people going out and protecting churches. i dont know the detail i just heard that thats what some people were doing after the decision
David from Acts17Apologetics has an interesting perspective to why Roe vs Wade was overturned, TL;DR the weaponized victimhood has given the feminists enemies instead of sympathy and if you treat people as enemies ( specifically judges of the supreme court) they will eventually become your enemies. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwNtyNlxQ9I

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