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二番目の日本スレ • Japan Thread 2 Blackshirt 01/09/2021 (Sat) 03:49:49 ID: a5b55b No.18204
The old thread reached bump-limit. This thread is for discussing Japanese fascism, nationalism, religion and history. Recommended Reading >Kokutai no Hongi / Cardinal Principles of the National Entity of Japan >The Secret of Japan’s Strength by Albrecht Fürst von Urach >Hagakure >The Way of the Samurai by Yukio Mishima >Patriotism by Yukio Mishima >Japan’s Holy War by Walter Skya >The Essence of Shinto by Motohisa Yamakage >Shinto: The Kami Way by Sokyo Ono Watch >A Japanese Neo-Nazi https://youtu.be/k_pP_sc09FY >Shinto: Nature, Gods, and Man in Japan (1977) https://youtube.com/watch?v=5PsNjG5CTgU Websites http://www.nsjap.com/en/index.html
I have not yet personally read Kokutai no Hongi, but I purchased a reprint of an old English translation right after Christmas, so I will have to read it when it eventually comes and provide you guys with a review or any interesting quotes. Attached screenshot is from “Japan’s Holy War” mentioned in the OP
https://youtu.be/l8C1Ia3h9Ok The Battle of Port Arthur (1980) https://youtu.be/Tp2sDECuqr4 Video on the imperial regalia of Japan https://youtube.com/watch?v=5PsNjG5CTgU Shinto: Nature, Gods, and Man in Japan (1977) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJLE2pnN9WY Japan's War in Colour Has anyone here read the actual Shinto holy texts (Nihon Shoki & Kojiki)? I am interested in buying physical copies since I like to collect religious texts in general but the translations seems a bit archaic. I wonder if Japanese people actually care about them and if Shinto priests own copies of them or if it's just seen as an historical relic and not much more than that.
>>18237 >I wonder if Japanese people actually care about them and if Shinto priests own copies of them or if it's just seen as an historical relic and not much more than that. That's a good question. From what I have read, it seems as if it is not seen as if it is valued somewhere in between holy and a historical record. Because first and foremost, they seem to be chronicles mixed in with mythological elements about the origin of humanity and Japan. Now these are important chronicles for this reason and valuable insights into the nature of early Japan and koshinto - but I do not get the impression that they are necessarily viewed as "holy". For example, I doubt that most Japanese have studied these works or go to read them for any sort of inspiration like Abrahamists might. I looked up whether they are studied in schools but I was unable to find any information on this. I guess a reason for this could be that Shinto is more something lived than intellectually comprehended and rationalized. It is (or was) woven into everyday life, and transmitted through the generations organically rather through any set of "holy texts". These are definitely likely studied at the several Shinto universities that exist though, but I wonder how many priests actually go to these.
>>18289 >I looked up whether they are studied in schools but I was unable to find any information on this I do remember reading somewhere that they were taught in school during the State-Shinto period but sadly, I forgot where. It might have been Skya's book. I can at least confirm that the legend of Momotaro was taught to children and since emperor Jimmu played a large role in the State-Shintoist ideology because of his statement on conquering the world, I am sure he must have been taught about as well. So at least certain parts of the books must have been taught. >I guess a reason for this could be that Shinto is more something lived than intellectually comprehended and rationalized. It is (or was) woven into everyday life, and transmitted through the generations organically rather through any set of "holy texts" Yes, I understand that. But I thought someone who would be more devoted to the religion than the average person would be interested in studying his religion's scriptures, as would be the case with the follower of any other religion.
>>18237 >I wonder if Japanese people actually care about them I reckon that the vast majority of Japanese people have never heard of them. Japan's practice of shintoism is almost purely cultural ritual at this point, with a minority of Japanese people actually delving into the religio-spiritual aspects of it. My impression is that it survives because it's just what everyone was raised with and is familiar with, so they keep perpetuating the same practices without a second thought - probably not dissimilar to how most people in the west celebrate christmas despite the deeper spiritual, religious aspects of the holiday being lost on many.
Is the Japanese nazi party even active? Their website is an early-2000’s cringefest that looks like it was made for a highschool somputer science assignment, and it references shit they did over a decade ago. 残念
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>>18467 Kazunari Yamada still posts on Twitter occasionally it seems like. His last tweet is from December 28th. The blog portion of the website still gets updated too occasionally. The last entry on the blog is from July, covering LGBT madness, and before that it looks like he was covering BLM riots: http://nsjap.blog.jp/ My guess is that they are just a very small party with a handful of people who show up at protests. Anyway, here is another older video on them: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=taHD4B8m1wQ
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>>18477 >devine people
I don't like Japan's NS party, self-hating niggers, chinks, Jews I can accept, but self-hating Nips who want to be NatSoc just doesn't feel right to me and is disrespectful to their ancestors.
>>18477 One thing I don't understand is why he is co-opting White Nationalist symbols instead of using Imperial Japanese ones.
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>>18493 >self-hating Where do you get that idea from? NS could certainly be applied in Japan
>>18495 That's the one criticism I kind of agree with. Many NS ideas are certainly applicable for the Japanese, but I think Yamada and his party's use of symbolism could actually be a key reason as to why they are so tiny. Why not use the rising sun flag, for example? Stuff like the Black Sun are essentially meaningless to Japanese people, and it's also clear that most Japanese people are clueless about the Swastika. An anon posted this video in the last thread: https://invidious.zapashcanon.fr/watch/?v=7qV7xbAVOY0
>>18496 Because there's a NS party that thinks that Japan originated from (((Turans))) or (((Turks))). It's retarded to think that your ancestors were of a completely different race, so therefore the people of Japan should be that race today.
>>18498 Is the rising sun flag banned or something? That could be why but I still find it strange. What about symbology in their history? Surely they have some ancient pagan Shinto symbols they can use aswell.
>>18499 >everything is jews At least read a fucking wikipedia article so that you actually know what you are disagreeing with: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turanism#Japan >>18500 Again, wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rising_Sun_Flag#Present-day_use
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>>18499 Turanism only refers to having an inner or central Asian origin, not necessarily that they are descended from Turks. Just read this Lothrop Stoddard quote on the Wikipedia article for Turanism: >Right across northern Europe and Asia, from the Baltic to the Pacific and from the Mediterranean to the Arctic Ocean, there stretches a vast band of peoples to whom ethnologists have assigned the name of "Uralo-Altaic race", but who are more generally termed "Turanians". This group embraces the most widely scattered folk—the Ottoman Turks of Constantinople and Anatolia, the Turcomans of Central Asia and Persia, the Tatars of South Russia and Transcaucasia, the Magyars of Hungary, the Finns of Finland and the Baltic provinces, the aboriginal tribes of Siberia and even the distant Mongols and Manchus. Diverse though they are in culture, tradition, and even physical appearance, these peoples nevertheless possess certain well-marked traits in common. Their languages are all similar, and, what is of even more import, their physical and mental make-up displays undoubted affinities. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turanism It's not based on any form of self-hatred, but based more on outdated anthropology and linguistic theories as far as I understand it. I definitely think it is kind of silly myself. I'd be pushing a very Shinto nationalist angle if I were Japanese. >>18500 It's legal there. You can see some of them on these ultranationalist vans: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqSiidErOZ4 And recently there was an anime Demon Slayer released there where a character had rising sun earrings that had to be censored overseas because it made Koreans and other Asians butthurt
>>18289 >enjoy japanese anime >get butthurt about japanese symbols being used I fucking hate Koreans so fucking much. Those judaified slavish niggers complaining about "muh colonialism" all the time disgust me.
>>18502 >asshurt Turan responds >(((wikipedia))) You're a fucking idiot, but no surprise considering you're needlessely getting asshurt, because I spoke the Truth about them. Turans are a mixed race of both some Caucasian parts and Mongol. Turans today are majority Turk and majority of Turk and Uralic origin. You're probably assuming that I'm referring to Turkish people who are also friendly to jews and not Turkic, who are party of the Altaic family. Altaics for over the numerous course of the years have been very tolerate of Jews, the Khazars themselves were of Altaic origin and partly Jewish, and most Turks today even the larping Ottocucks and are friendly and really don't mind them due to their friendly relations in the past. >>18503 >Turanism only refers to having an inner or central Asian origin, not necessarily that they are descended from Turks. Just read this Lothrop Stoddard quote on the Wikipedia article for Turanism: Dude, most Turks originated and lived in inner and central asia, so this just validates my point.
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>>18506 Koreans are really the niggers of East Asia. I was going to call them the Jews of East Asia, but the Chinese are more deserving of that title. The gibs will never be enough for them, and no matter what Japan does or says they will never be satisfied. It seems like their study of the Talmud is paying off. I hope they continue to sink into frivolous K-pop degeneracy and Christcuckery, they deserve it. >>18507 > most Turks originated and lived in inner and central asia, so this just validates my point. No, it doesn't validate your point. Claiming that Turks originated in Central Asia =/= everyone who originated in Central Asia is a Turk. It would be claiming that all Aryans are Slavs because Indo-Europeans are theorized to have spread out from modern day Ukraine.
>>18508 >It would be claiming that It would be like claiming that...
>>18507 (((You))) are clearly misusing the echoes on purpose.
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>>18498 I said this in the previous thread as well, I don't see the point in using symbolism from a movement that was very specifically western/European when the Japanese have their own rich cultural and spiritual heritage to draw from. >>18499 That reminds me of the pan-Asian Japanese in the Showa era (like Okawa Shumei, who translated the Quran into Japanese) who wanted to adopt Islam as a national religion and make the emperor some sort of caliph. They wanted Islam to be for Asia what Christianity was for the west. Again, they should just stick to what their own nation developed and preserved. This adaption of Turanism makes even less sense when you consider that the only people in history who had come close to conquering Japan were Mongols who later converted to Islam. >>18500 >>18503 I have seen rising sun flags used by Japanese even in very normie contexts, it doesn't have the type of stigma that the swastika has in Germany. I think it would be more comparable to Prussian/pre-WWII nationalist German flags for a western comparison. But overall, most of them aren't ashamed or don't care about their involvement in the war or anything related to it. https://youtu.be/KHcod_wNxDw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qV7xbAVOY0
>>18508 >No, it doesn't validate your point. Claiming that Turks originated in Central Asia =/= everyone who originated in Central Asia is a Turk. It would be claiming that all Aryans are Slavs because Indo-Europeans are theorized to have spread out from modern day Ukraine. Are you pretending to be stupid as well? The vast majority of Central Asians are fucking Turks. The majority of them are either Turan or some form of Happa with actual Whites being a very small minority living in small villages or towns. Also Turans were indeed born somewhere around central asia the cause of this is most likely has to due with Whites, uralics and mongol Turks invading and settling there and mixing with the locals. There are barely any Aryans in Asia who aren't mixed race, if they can still be called Aryans. >>18510 (((You))) a Turkic nigger have no reason to call me Jewish and get asshurt that I shat on the mongoliod mutts, Turans. Either respond with an argument or stay quiet and fuck off staring into a corner somewhere.
>>18512 (((You))) failed to make a single (((argument))), jew.
>>18207 Not sure your proficiency in Japanese, but I went and made a PDF of 国体の本義〈現代語化〉from my kindle. Gonna give try to give it a read myself.
>>18513 Please continue to respond with asshurt, I'm enjoying laughing at a faggy (((Turk))).
>>18511 >third pic Those ears and face shape look very oddly Jewish. That man is unlikely to be pure Japanese
>>18519 just did some quick research and it doesn't say anything about non-Japanese ancestry. Apparently he's from a family of doctors from 山形県酒田市
>>18524 Despite the lack of evidence, his irregular appearance and the fact that he was shilling to turn Japan into a caliphate sends up alot of red flags about his loyalties and actual ethnic makeup.
>>18529 that's probably just in that one photo. Other photos I looked at didn't have those features. Furthermore, Japan has never had the presence of jews or other foreigners compared to the west. If he was mixed-race, it would have definitely been reported on and known by anyone who he interacted with.
>>18519 >>18529 I am sure it's just Jomon ancestry
>>18515 >>18516 ありがとう。未来に読んでみるかも。まだ文法と単語にちょっと弱いんだ。でも、上手くなりたいから、お金があったらいつか留学する >>18511 >I said this in the previous thread as well, I don't see the point in using symbolism from a movement that was very specifically western/European when the Japanese have their own rich cultural and spiritual heritage to draw from. Yeah, exactly. I was actually thinking of that exact criticism I read here when I said that. You're definitely right. They're shooting themselves in the foot
I have a qn - if let's say there's an redpilled Asian. If he understood why Hitler had to do what he had to do (saving Germans from communism), would it make sense for him to get why Japan was Imperial. I mean Japan did try to grab so much of Asia and genociding anyone in those parts.
>>18573 Why wouldn't an asian who understood Hitler understand Imperial Japan?
>>18601 Because if he supported or sympathised with Imperial Japan, that's contradictory bc Imperial Japan had taken over Malaysia and Singapore and other parts of Asia. He may have not been born and raised as an Asian culturally if the Japs won.
>>18552 上手くなるのに、日本に行く必要は全然ありませんよ。ただアニメやドラマを見たり、本や漫画を読んだりして、毎日知らない単語をAnkiというアプリで勉強したら上手くなれると思いますよ。 俺はこの勉強方法を使って、二年半ちょっとに、結構出来るようになったので、お勧めします! もっと知りたいのなら、こちらに https://refold.la/ それと"Matt vs Japan"という人物の動画を見るのもお勧めします
>>18616 Anki​を知っているが、まだ使っていない。もうすぐ使ってみる。勧めてくれてありがとう!去年から大学で日本語を勉強している。俺の専攻だ。アニメを見たり、マンガを読んだり、音楽を聞いたりして一人で勉強している。すごく楽しくていい勉強の仕方だと思う。 I'll be sure to check out the other things as well that you mentioned. I seemed to understand like 85%+ of what you said, and most of what I didn't was just kanji, so I guess that is good. I've heard a lot of people on imageboards mention Anki, but for some reason I have not tried it myself. Were you formally educated in any way in Japanese? I don't look down on self-study, of course, but I'm just curious. Usually classroom stuff is pretty shit anyways. Most of what we do is memorize little conversations for each day, and then have to "perform" them with other students. Then the teachers add in some variations and then try to apply the new grammar and structures that we learned. It's definitely not a bad way, but I think if I hadn't fried my brain watching anime and reading visual novels I'd be a lot more behind kek
>>18634 I have taken some lessons for Japanese, but basically all of my ability has come from immersion and using anki. /jp/'s Daily Japanese Thread gives a lot of good advice as well. traditional classroom/textbook methods are generally really ineffecieint. and boring too.
>>18636 Classroom stuff generally is bad and the textbooks shit. I've taken a few languages on and off over the years, never to really any advanced level, but enough to see how the different departments handle their teaching methods. I know a girl who is taking a particular language in university that she has been continuing on from taking in high school, so this means she has been taking this language for at least several years, and yet she is still horrible at it from everything that I have been told. It seems like the university just lets these people move up through the levels without really even teaching them soundly in many cases. This same person went to study abroad and whined to me over the phone how she couldn't understand anyone. Embarrassing. The only real good part about actual courses though is that you get to really practice speaking. When it comes to immersion and stuff I'm pretty set already due to anime and stuff, but like I said I'll definitely check out Anki and go see what /jp/ has to offer. Thanks again
혹시 한국말 할 수 있는 분은 계세요? 오래만에 안 쓰니까 실력이 좀 안 좋아진 것 같은데..
>>18644 I’ve considered looking into Korean merely to see how different it is from Japanese grammatically and because I think Hangul is cool. Where did you learn Korean, anon?
>>18655 why learn the language of the niggers of East Asia? Learn Mandarin before you learn ko*ean
>>18764 Mandarin really sounds like a nightmare with all of the tonal aspects and the fact that it's all Chinese characters. Kanji already make me suffer, at least in writing them, I can read the ones I'm familiar with fine.
>>18764 Eh, I'm fine with any race that's not nigger or Jew. I don't get why Asians are considered "niggers" now. There are blackwashed Asians, but at least they're genetically not niggers.
>>18781 Only Koreans are niggers. The other Asians are fine.
>>18781 >>18800 >I'm fine with non-Whites This whole thread should be deleted.
>>18802 You're a fucking retard. sort out your subhuman
>>18804 subhuman IQ*
>>18781 >being this autistically literal >being this cucked クリンジュ
>>18498 This needs to be pointed out for a second, this would be every western country without kikes. Japan has a lot of issues but just Imagine how much better life would be if everyone wasn't being indefinitely emotionally blackmailed by hooknosed vermin and reddit shills who never shut the fuck up about WW2.
>>18823 Japan was of course occupied by ZOG after the war, but they definitely did not invest as much in Japan to totally destroy them. Of course the seeds already existed that are bringing this about today, but it definitely seems true on average that they are of an infinitely more healthy mindset.
>>18655 >I’ve considered looking into Korean merely to see how different it is from Japanese grammatically and because I think Hangul is cool. Where did you learn Korean, anon? I self-taught myself Korean years ago, I haven't been as consistent with it as I should be but I don't regret starting it as it's a beautiful language. I love the way it sounds, how the characters look and how logical the grammar and phonetics are, it's quite scientific. It's also quite easy to learn the Korean alphabet and the interesting thing is alot of the consonants are shaped the way your mouth, lips and tongue are suppose to look making the sounds. >>18764 Koreans are not the niggers of East Asia, that would be the modern day chinks. Koreans are culturally a much higher people than modern chinks (even with the Western baggage they still have the ability to create new things), they sit almost like an in between, or a fusion of Japanese and original Chinese (Taiwanese) culture. Modern Korea has obviously been ZOGed to shit, but I find their history interesting. They have a tragic history of being victimized in war due to their geographical location (similar to Germany), as a people constantly facing extreme hardship and overcoming it.
>>18828 Chinks are the kikes of Asia. Koreans are niggers because they're constantly slavishly compalining about colonialism and demanding reparations from Japan.
>>18837 >Koreans are niggers because they're constantly slavishly compalining about colonialism and demanding reparations from Japan. It's designed to create division between Korea and Japan. Most Koreans don't know how the Japanese actually used to encourage and bolster Korean nationalism during colonial times, and that Japan added alot of positive attributes to their country. It seems like a jewish ploy to create division among Asians, the same way they created division among Europeans with Germany.
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>>18839 > Most Koreans don't know how the Japanese actually used to encourage and bolster Korean nationalism during colonial times Proofs? From everything I've read they were forced to adopt Japanese names, publication of anything in Korean was banned, Korean language-use discouraged and stuff like Shinto shrines set up across the country by the Japanese. In fact, many of the so-called "nationalists" in Korea were anti-Japanese Christcucks >>18828 We're calling them the niggers of Asia mainly for the reason that they are constantly crying about the Japanese occupation and demanding apologies and gibs from Japan due to things like the 'comfort woman' hoax. They might not be genetically 'niggerly', but due to a complex mix of capitalism, philosemitism, resentment, ZOG occupation and materialism, they have been reduced to this.
>>18851 https://invidiou.site/watch?v=TDm4KSGn8Sw Video on the Korean/Japanese relationship. >>18851 >We're calling them the niggers of Asia mainly for the reason that they are constantly crying about the Japanese occupation and demanding apologies and gibs from Japan due to things like the 'comfort woman' hoax. They might not be genetically 'niggerly', but due to a complex mix of capitalism, philosemitism, resentment, ZOG occupation and materialism, they have been reduced to this. That's a fair assessment of modern Korea because they have been propagandized heavily to be aniti-Japanese. But the same can be said for Americans and Europeans being propagandized to hate Germans and Hitler.
>>18851 Also I would take that picture with a grain of salt. Most likely written by a Jew to give the false image that most Koreans subscribe to it and make outsiders believe it as truth.
>>18855 >But the same can be said for Americans and Europeans That’s definitely true. >>18856 The article may be a bit sensational perhaps, but there’s certainly *some* sort of crazy philosemitism going on there for whatever reason
>>18875 20% of the population is evangelical protestant after all.
>>18880 I wouldn’t be surprised if that is a large part of the reason why. Those sort of ideas seem to come prepackaged with extreme philosemitism for obvious reasons, so it is no surprise that one of the most Christian countries in East Asia has this problem.
>>18881 It honestly seems to be a mind virus that mostly accompanies North American brands of protestantism. You don't see that kind of philosemitism in the Phillipines, which is largely Catholic
>>18883 I’ve noticed that as well. They’re all jewed, needless to say, but Protestantism appears to be a uniquely degenerate and judaic form of Christianity. I have heard people semi-jokingly call atheists “hyper-protestants” on places like /lit/, and the more I see and read the more it seems true. A book that I read a few months ago called ‘The Twilight of Atheism’ had a similar thesis, that Protestantism and Atheism are closely connected, and that Protestantism with its focus on scripture alone being the only real way to connect with the divine, hatred of images in its most extreme forms, a more distant God, etc—all paved the way for Atheism.
>>18885 I would agree with the notion that protestantism pathed the way for atheism by opening up the bag of questioning scripture, but I really dislike the notion that athetism is a monolethic belief-system in itself. I would consider myself an atheist, but that doesn't preculde me from arriving at many of the same fundamental moral truths as the religious, except through observation and reason. Whether god(s) created the world or not, material reality must necessarilly reflect the same ultimate moral truths anyway. The problem with modern atheism is that it has become a component of the larger secular religion of liberal egalitarianism, which I would argue is the natural consequence of secularizing protestant ethics. Since atheism on its own is simply the lack of belief in god(s), any atheist who is honest with himself and seeks the truth will inevitably conclude that fascism is the only path forward, as I have done.
Just realized this came out with faggot reddit spacing. Oops.
>>18204 The Dayar Mongol did it better, too bad most of members are now in prison
>>18883 >It honestly seems to be a mind virus that mostly accompanies North American brands of protestantism. You don't see that kind of philosemitism in the Phillipines, which is largely Catholic I believe this is largely because Catholicism was built upon the ashes of Paganism and thus people tend to mold it more to fit their native traditions, whereas Protestantism is just empty Jew cock sucking. >>18875 Given the wide variety of nutty Christian types in Korea I'm not surprised to see some take up a heavily edited version of the Talmud (with all the parts about the goyim being worthless cut out). It is true that Christianity has done a number on them as it has to Europeans. I remember from a Korean friend who told me in Korea they are now brainwashed/taught to have "empathy" for the darkies because in the past they only held Europeans up as role model and that isn't Kosher. I look at modern Korea as another case study as to why Christianity is toxic and a precursor to Marxism. We can see the beginnings of Feminism taking shape, the nigger culture, and the setting the groundwork for the annihilation of their culture.
>>19022 >We can see the beginnings of Feminism taking shape This is well beyond a mere beginning.
>>19024 Holy fucking shit.
>>19026 >MUH BASTE NONWHITE CHINKS! No one said this. Go be a sperg somewhere else.
>>18998 Yes, when I refer to atheism I am basically referring only to the mainstream atheism of the West, or the type pushed by Richard Dawkins, Christopher Hitchens & co. - so basically bugman materialism which is, like you said, in many ways a form of secularized Protestant ethics. Atheism isn't inherently this type of cheerless materialism. We can see in ancient India ideas like Samkhya which in some forms posited no transcendent creator, but only involved an interplay between two principles of consciousness and matter (purusha and prakriti). That's certainly a form of atheism. The real redpill though is to really dive into studying panpsychism, pantheism and the like. It starts to feel like one is veering into /x/-tier territory, but if you're a big guy for observation and reason, the former in particular seems to present itself as the most likely (and most trippy) solution to the hard problem of consciousness that will change one's view of the world. Of course one can hold an atheistic view with this, but to belief that the universe is animated with consciousness is in itself coming closer and closer to paganism or something like Shinto while even retaining scientific plausibility. https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/panpsychism/ >>18999 Watch out or you'll trigger the sperg. >>19024 Simply wew
>>19028 This whole thread is thinly veiled discussion for it.
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>>19024 Shit like this only confirms in my mind that Koreans are going through the exact same shit that we are, and are suffering greatly as a result. Once the niggers go there in troves it'll be game over... Korean men would be a valuable ally in the war against the Jew, I can imagine that they are probably hunkered down on a board of their own on the darknet discussing similar shit on how to save their nation from "multi-culti".
>>19037 You're a fucking retard. Just because we have good things to say about other races doesn't mean we adore them or would ever consider prioritizing them over our own people. Get the fuck out of here with that black-and-White nigger-tier mentality
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>>19035 > Atheism isn't inherently this type of cheerless materialism. We can see in ancient India ideas like Samkhya which in some forms posited no transcendent creator, but only involved an interplay between two principles of consciousness and matter (purusha and prakriti). That's certainly a form of atheism. Because of the connotations of atheism in the modern west, with the whole fedora meme, people tend to forgot that atheism in itself is not an ideology but merely the act of not believing in God. >>19037 The Japanese achieved what they did because they are the most Caucasian of the races living in the far east and because they remained mostly homogeneous after the first mongoloid migrations around 2000 years ago up until 1945, they were also nearly always ruled by the most Caucasian elements of their population. They are simply not the same as chinks. Also, if you find yourself posting on an imageboard, it's highly likely that you found yourself interested in anime or other Japanese media at some point in your life, the very existence of imageboards in the west can be thanked to the Japanese. And I do believe there is a sort of anime-to-fascism pipeline as ridiculous as it may sound, maybe because it's one of the few modern mediums left that doesn't serve as Marxist propaganda and primarily directs itself at young men, so the people who are attracted to it tend to be those who feel disdain for degenerate western media and western pop-culture in general. Japanese media is essentially what you get when a company cares about satisfying its customers and creating something that may be able to have artistic value, the same cannot be said for any western media today.
>>19057 I dunno man. Sure, you see the usual class distinction of pale skin being a signifer of nobility in Nip culture, but the Yayoi culture were basically no different from ancestral Koreans, seeing as they came from that peninsula. I'm not convinced their nobility were "Whiter" in any genetic sense; but labouring in a rice paddy under the sun all day will certainly make you swarthy, and the Japanese are noted for their use of White makeup, of course.
>>19059 I specifically wrote 'Caucasian' , not 'White'. I never said anything about skin-color. And the fact that their elite is less Mongoloid than their subjects is clearly distinguishable from just looking at their appearances. But Japanese in general, regardless of class, have a very distinct phenotype from Koreans and Chinese in general.
It arrived much earlier than I expected. I haven’t looked through it yet beyond making sure that no retard had written on every page, but I will be starting this soon and I will definitely be posting good quotes or photos of some pages.
>>19063 I mean, I'm open to the possibility, I know Caucasoid Aryans really got about during the Bronze Age, but you'd have to prove it to me with studies of shit like epicanthal folds, skull morphology and of course - what colour their nipples are.
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https://archive.vn/hh2SZ This is a much more convincing theory regarding the origins of the Japanese. The tl;dr is that (among others) there was a generalist subspecies of humanity, and a cold-adapted one in East Asia. The latter are the ancestors of the Chinese, Koreans, etc. In Europe the generalists interbred with the Neanderthals (the European cold-adapted subspecies of humanity, obviously quite different from the East Asian cold-adapted subspecies), and that leads to us Hwites. But the same generalist human subspecies was present in the Japanese islands, and they were the ancestors of the Jomon and the Ainu. Then came the Yayoi, immigrants from mainland Asia (who belonged to that East Asian cold-adapted subspecies) who interbred with these earlier populations, and that's why the Japanese population is so different from their neighbours. This is actually why so many Japs have fucked up teeth: depending on what genes they inherit their teeth might be too big or too small for their jaw.
>>19073 Plausible indeed. Though such an admixture is more recent than the formulation of modern Europeans. I watched "Survive The Jive" and his video on the "Inbred God-Kings" of Neolithic Britain and Ireland provided evidence that autochtonous Hunter-gatherer men had great reproductive success with the women of the migrating "Anatolian farmers", producing eventually the aristocratic lineage of the God-kings. I mean, a similar interplay could have happened in Japan; as far as we know the rice-kingdoms of the Yayoi in Japan were essentially ruled by a theocratic nobility, however, that form of rice-kingdom also occurred in the Korean peninsular, and it seems more likely to me that there would be continuity between the elite classes of both regions. You're right about the fucked up teeth thing though.
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>>19078 The problem here is that we simply don't know enough about that era to go beyond speculating. Of course if we had access to the DNA of both living and deceased members of the imperial line and various aristocratic families, then we could speculate with a lot more information at hand. But the imperial family obviously doesn't want to risk that, because it would be a bit beyond embarrassing if we learned that their line is completely broken. >rice-kingdom also occurred in the Korean peninsular, and it seems more likely to me that there would be continuity between the elite classes of both regions https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peninsular_Japonic >Whitman associates the Japonic with the spread of wet rice agriculture via the Mumun culture of the Korean peninsula and the Yayoi culture of Japan. He further suggests that Koreanic arrived in the peninsula from the north with the Liaoning bronze dagger culture about 300 BCE.[46] Vovin proposes a similar model, but associates Koreanic with iron-using mounted warriors from Manchuria. If what this link proposes is true, then Koreans and late-comers who invaded already settled Japonic people, or maybe even took over established Japonic kingdoms. But due to a lack of records (and because everybody used Chinese characters to write), we don't have a clear picture.
And I nearly forgot this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gwanggaeto_Stele#Interpretation Basically there is a ton of shitflinging about who is who and who did what and when. So both Japan and Korea has an interest in muddying the waters when it comes to their ancient history.
>>19084 >>19086 Thanks buddy, yeah, the question of Japanese Imperial lineage is likely to remain intentionally obscure, for the reasons you outlined. But speculation is fun.
>>19059 >I'm not convinced their nobility were "Whiter" in any genetic sense; but labouring in a rice paddy under the sun all day will certainly make you swarthy, and the Japanese are noted for their use of White makeup, of course. Like the other anon said, they are of more of a Caucasian phenotype. They're obviously not White or someone you would want to mix with. Interestingly, some leaders of the Meiji Restoration wanted to have White women imported in order to raise the racial level of some of the Japanese people. They realized they were not on the level of Whites.
>>19105 The ability to grow proper facial hair is a strong indicator of Jomon ancestry for sure. Most East-Asians can only grow patchy facial hair.
>>19084 >Of course if we had access to the DNA of both living and deceased members of the imperial line and various aristocratic families, then we could speculate with a lot more information at hand. But the imperial family obviously doesn't want to risk that, because it would be a bit beyond embarrassing if we learned that their line is completely broken. I am guessing that most pre-Meiji emperors and members of the aristocratic families would have been cremated, according to Buddhist custom. I don't know if you could do genetic research with ashes. >Virtually all deceased are now cremated in Japan – as of 2012, it had the highest cremation rate in the world of over 99.9%. >The Meiji government attempted to ban the practice in the 19th century, but the ban was only in effect for less than two years.
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>>19057 >>19073 I just did some research on this on the Japanese web, and it turns out that more recent genetic testing shows that there is no genetic relationship between the Jomon people and Europeans. https://www.brh.co.jp/publication/journal/087/research/1.html >これらのデータを用い、アフリカ、ヨーロッパの集団を含む世界中の人々と縄文人の核ゲノムを比較したところ、縄文人は東ユーラシアの集団と遺伝的に一番近いことがわかっ "Using this data, when we compared the nuclear genome of people from around the world including groups from Africa and Europe with the nuclear genome of the jomon people, we found that the jomon people were genetically the closest to the group from East Asia" (pic. 1) >これは、地理的関係から考えて予想通りの結果である。さらに東ユーラシアの集団にしぼっての比較により、現代日本列島人は大陸集団と比べてより縄文人に近縁であることがわかった(図7)。 "These results are expected If we consider them in relation to geography. Furthermore, if we focus on the group from East Asia, we found that modern japanese people are closest to jomon people when compared to other groups from the continent" (pic. 2) Sorry to disappoint the LARPers, but it doesn't look lole the Japanese have any European/Aryan ancestry to speak of.
>>19169 That whole theory says that a group that is ancestral to the Jomons is also ancestral to Europeans. Which obviously means that Europeans can't be ancestral to Jomons, the same way two rather distant relatives with a common ancestor down the line can't be each other descendants. Also note that I'm only trying to explain why people say that Japs look huwitish, not LARPing about ayyncient ayyrans.
>>19169 I wonder if it has to do with a bit of chance and influence from climate then. Japan and large parts of Europe are temperate or humid continental climates. Obviously White physical appearance is based both off of an initial genetic substrate and influences from climactic conditions. It wouldn't be surprising if over time this produced some vaguely similar appearances in similar environments, but not identical due to different founding populations
>>19169 >Sorry to disappoint the LARPers, but it doesn't look lole the Japanese have any European/Aryan ancestry to speak of. I didn't explicitly say that. I think what happened in Japan for the Ainu to appear was that the native population underwent the same evolutionary changes that allowed the White European race to appear. Two relevant videos: https://youtu.be/pp3H7KEu0_o https://youtu.be/zFohbr7ALeQ So what may have happened is that the Ainu appeared as a race with the same physical and psychological characteristics as Europeans, without having any genetic connection to one another. Had the Mongoloid populations of mainland Asia, that underwent a different evolutionary process, not invaded Japan in antiquity, then modern Japanese would have not differed in appearance from Europeans.
>>19257 However, it should be noted that green eyes within AInu populations. These features are not native to mainland East-Asians. Varg proposed a theory that green eyes appear as a combination of the genes for blue and brown eyes, which I think could be correct. But considering that the mutation for blue eyes appeared in Europe and only spread throughout peoples with at least some European ancestry, they must have some European ancestry for such a feature to appear.
>>19261 *green eyes have been observed
>>19169 > genetic testing shows I'd suggest being a bit sceptical of that, considering we live in a world where some (((researchers))) publish articles claiming euros are nothing like neanderthals, while using a neanderthal-denisovian hybrid as the baseline. I realize it can be seen as "unscientific", but I view Ainu/Jomon people like this : - lived in small, spread out communities instead of cities, like the ancient europeans. - had a pantheistic religion of ancestor worship that is VERY similar to that of ancient europeans. - generally relied on domesticated animals (dogs & horses) over agriculture, like ancient europeans, fought on horseback, using mounted archers like eurasian steppe nomads. - when integrated into another population, many became a nobility whose power was legitimized by military power, who resisted the centralized authority, in a manner VERY reminiscent of the germanic tribes. - are the basis of the local standards of beauty (ie more Jomon/Ainu admixture is seen as beautiful), just like most european standards of beauty tend towards the "Aryan ideal". Thus, I think it doesn't actually matter whether or not we have a common ancestor (though it's incredibly likely), because even if the Jomon were aliens who crash-landed here 3000 years ago, they are still so fucking similar to us that they can be recognized as brothers, on the exact same basis that someone who rejects every core tenet of my civilization and shows none of its qualities can't be called kin, no matter how close our actual blood-ties may be.
>>19283 >I'd suggest being a bit sceptical of that, considering we live in a world where some (((researchers))) publish articles claiming euros are nothing like neanderthals, while using a neanderthal-denisovian hybrid as the baseline. I was also thinking there could be a political bias, like with the research regarding Indo-Aryans in India, where Indian researchers refuse to acknowledge that the Aryan invaders came from Europe.
>>19261 There is at least one documented case of an abbo man and a European woman having a child with blue eyes, even though it was clearly a mulatto. Not to mention that there are abbos with blondish hair. That book I've linked before explains it as abbos being descendants of the generalized human subspecies with no serious admixture from other subspecies, and with different evolutionary pressures. >>19283 It requires further genetic testing, but an other likely theory is that the Yayoi simply took Jomon women for themselves, and the resultant offspring were simply better looking. Repeat this mixing for a long enough time, and these features are spread through the population even without the males having any serious impact. This is also how Neanderthal genes were spread even though pure Neanderthals were outcompeted. If you want to see ties between the Ainu and Europeans, some people say that there are some similarities in the Ainu and Basque languages. If that's true, it proves that there was a population of hunter-gatherers stretching from Europe to East-Asia.
>>19169 >Muh genetic testing >No archives his shill links Go back to reddit, these are same homosexuals who tried to paint the Ancient Greeks, Romans, Vikings as niggers along with attempting to reinforce the out of India theory, because muh White supremacy. Anyone who puts faith on mainstream science can be outed and a non-fascist and a useful idiot. As if you're muh LARP speak wasn't already clear enough you chug on Judaic semen.
Did Nippon ever had a handsomeness or general masculinity standards for men as far as appearances? I've always wondered if men in Japan had to have a certain complexion and appearance to obtain respect and prestige among nobility?
>>19295 >these are same homosexuals who tried to paint the Ancient Greeks, Romans, Vikings as niggers along with attempting to reinforce the out of India theory, because muh White supremacy Kanzawa hideaki, random japanese researcher at Niigata University testing the DNA of a Jomon tooh is claiming that ancient greeks, romans, and vikings were niggers? You're a fucking retard. The whole point of using a JAPANESE SOURCE was to avoid western homoglobo kike influence, you dense nigger hunk of shit. I swear the average IQ of some users on this board is below room temperature. You're a subhuman and disgrace to your people, you spastic fuck
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>>19327 I spent probably over a half hour trying to answer this satisfactorily, but it seems to be extremely difficult to dig much up on men. With women, I was able to find tons, but very little on men. The first two pics are from a paper called "The Social Perception of Skin Color in Japan" by Hiroshi Wagatsuma which gives some perceptions into what women in like Japanese men - basically slightly darker skin. I guess it makes sense in a way why it is harder to find stuff on male beauty - with women appearance is everything, with men, appearance is not unimportant, of course, but the behavior is often what is considered most important. I just heard recently too that long hair was more common among men before the Meiji Restoration, but shorter hair become commonplace as universal conscription was imposed and shorter hair was mandated for military-reasons. They really seemed to have loved to shave the crown of their heads though
>>19338 >N-n-no! You don't understand he's Japanese that means he's not a shill or a faggot Listen here you stupid bluepilled Judaic chugging nigger, you are the retard here because all scientists are bastards and owned by kikes and will cuck out no matter what. No matter the race if anyone joins a university or any science group they will have have to go by plebbit and bugmen science, who's greatest fears are a pro-White study. I'm not trusting a damn thing a labcoat says especially after I've seen that Japan themselves are not even immune to pozzery. Cope and die.
>>18508 >Koreans are really the niggers of East Asia. I can agree with that. Them and their "pretty boys". ABSOLUTE DEGENERATE >>18511 >That reminds me of the pan-Asian Japanese in the Showa era (like Okawa Shumei, who translated the Quran into Japanese) who wanted to adopt Islam as a national religion and make the emperor some sort of caliph. They wanted Islam to be for Asia what Christianity was for the west. Frank Herbert is interested. >I have seen rising sun flags used by Japanese even in very normie contexts, it doesn't have the type of stigma that the swastika has in Germany. Not sure of that and even if true, Jews would work to change this. Right now it's WWII baby-killing imperialist Japan that was part of the Axis killing 6KK Jews with anti-lice gas. >>18512 They later on moved south into Anatolia and kicked out tons of White settlements. >>18655 >I love boy K-pop and my anus is wet but I'm finding excuses Just kidding. :P >>18802 There is no point hating people of other races. Just maintain your distances and keep cordial. >>18825 There were not enough Jews in Japan. We shouldn't underestimate the huge importance of the local action of Jews on a host nation. Japanese might have been dominated but they remained very racially aware up until the 80-90s were things really started dropping faster than ever. Now afros can claim being Japanese. Sure, 99.999% of Japanese people will laugh in kanji at this but it's become equally bad to object to this stupidity. Why Jews also didn't focus that much on Japan was because they had their hands full with Europe and they principally leech off of Whites, who they hate deeply. Nips are collateral damage, crumbs. They will not oppose much of a resistance once we're down for good. >>18837 They use the Talmud in some of their economics schools. They fetishize money bills just like the rabbis of Ukraine do. >>18855 >But the same can be said for Americans and Europeans being propagandized to hate Germans and Hitler. I disagree. Whites are not educated into being proud and loving themselves while complaining about Hitler and asking for more gibs from Merkelistan. Only Jews, and Poland to some extent, continue to blackmail Germany. Whites are simply taught to hate themselves 24/7 all around the world.
>>19341 >The first two pics are from a paper called "The Social Perception of Skin Color in Japan" by Hiroshi Wagatsuma which gives some perceptions into what women in like Japanese men - basically slightly darker skin Isn't that, because tan skin is supposed to be a sign of hard work or something? Men usually tan when they work like 2-4 hours a day plowing fields or doing some physical labor out in the sun. I think most a significant amount of Japanese men today and before were light-skinned, although I might be wrong on that.
>>19346 Calm down Ted. You said yourself, only 1 hour internet a day.
>>19351 >Calm down Ted Take your pills making retarded assumptions of literally whos.
>>19349 >:P This place really is an extension of cuckchan.
>>18885 >I’ve noticed that as well. They’re all jewed, needless to say, but Protestantism appears to be a uniquely degenerate and judaic form of Christianity. I should probably post it in the Daily Abrahamic Hater thread but it goes there. You are correct. Protestantism did without the spiritual hierarchy of Catholicism which allowed about anyone to claim to be able to teach shit and crucifixes to others. Protestant currents are often manifest with a curious attempt at being almost more Hebraic than Jews. Calvinism was peak cuckism in that domain, rejecting literally anything pagan that had found its way into Catholicism. This is also how you find some bizarro muh true Israeli tribe absurdity that seems to have even permeated as far as up as UK royalty, all with its 13th Tribe crapola. Catholicsm's current focus rests more on being the sanctified arm of BLM.
>>19353 No jokes allowed, faggots!
>>19350 >Men usually tan when they work like 2-4 hours a day plowing fields or doing some physical labor out in the sun. I can't find any research or any knowledge about physical appearance concerning Japanese men either, but my speculation is that the Japanese men were naturally fair-skinned, but the samurai had a much lighter complexion due to their time spending mostly indoors or maybe they were able to prevent sunlight from contacting their skin, while working outside by spending less time doing said physical labor or maybe some device that peasants couldn't obtain? >>19353 You just figured this out despite all the wojack, nordic gamer postings and buzzwords such as cope, seethe and LARP said on this board?
>>19084 >But the imperial family obviously doesn't want to risk that, because it would be a bit beyond embarrassing if we learned that their line is completely broken. Let's not pretend that their faces alone couldn't blow that lid. Taller, wider, more hairy, bigger eyes, all would provide clues. Would these indicators prove lacking, not much mystery would remain and any study would probably just be an administrative endeavor to confirm all this. The presses would spin. If the current family was mainly Yayoi, it would be argued that it's representative of the larger Japan and thus perfect or such. >>19105 > Interestingly, some leaders of the Meiji Restoration wanted to have White women imported in order to raise the racial level of some of the Japanese people. They realized they were not on the level of Whites. Long live the superior hapas! Less jokingly (because that board is very serious now), in some parts of Africa the nigger females also have the fetish of being impregnated by White males to the point even the males encourage this. That, when they're obviously not being bamboozled by the Jews into BLM-like movements.
>>19353 Go away, faggot, the posts are of infinitely higher quality than cuckchan.
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>>19346 > No matter the race if anyone joins a university or any science group they will have have to go by plebbit and bugmen science Not necessarily. Certain questions are taboo (esp. regarding intelligence and like between races), but there are plenty of studies published even today that affirm things that are obviously not "plebbit" such as the fact that ancient China had much more European-like populations 2,500 years ago, or that the highest castes in India have higher degrees of Western European admixture more than do lower caste Dravidians. These both affirm our worldview and the things said on this board. Just because a university says it doesn't necessarily mean it's false, but it's important to have a healthy amount of skepticism. >>19350 >I think most a significant amount of Japanese men today and before were light-skinned, although I might be wrong on that. I think they may have been more tan in the past, at least when we're talking about those in the lower social classes. That paper I linked mentioned the adjective 浅黒い (asaguroi), i.e. "swarthy" / "tanned" in relation to these people. With higher class people like the samurai I'm not sure. I think during the Tokugawa period they did not have much action. Yamatomo Tsunetomo was complaining about the effeminacy of men and by extension samurai in his age in the Hagakure, I know. I doubt they were that dark, but this is just pure speculation at this point. The skin color today seems to be about the tone in my pic I attached.
>>19363 >Not necessarily. Certain questions are taboo (esp. regarding intelligence and like between races), but there are plenty of studies published even today that affirm things that are obviously not "plebbit" A guy who runs a channel named Viking Stories got fired for his research debunking that the vikings weren't Asian. >such as the fact that ancient China had much more European-like populations 2,500 years ago Which will be censored or supposedly "corrected" as wrong, because that they weren't European or some shit. >or that the highest castes in India have higher degrees of Western European admixture more than do lower caste Dravidians Which doesn't mean anything, because they're already trying to say that it wasn't due to an Aryan invasion and the idea of an invasion came from a kike. Most of these studies are mostly theories. There have been no confirmations nor any further research into proving that White Caucasians created certain societies far as East Asia. No university is willing to come out and say that Europeans created India and prove it with DNA and even if they do then it is likely some other researcher will pop up and claims that it's not quite as we think or that it's a racist myth with some new research saying the complete opposite. You guys are making as many excuses for modern science as the guys trying to call Tucker based when he won't call out the Jews. Nothing they say should be taken seriously at all especially when they feed so many lies and are uncertain if they have told the truth or paid to lie. I already can't trust STJ when he has fucked Pakistani and has some connections with a possible Jewess.
>>19372 > I already can't trust STJ when he has fucked Pakistani and has some connections with a possible Jewess. That's only the tip of the iceberg with him too. Varg was right about him, and he takes most of research from a Jew
>>19349 >There is no point hating people of other races. Just maintain your distances and keep cordial. Sorry but many people here want non-Whites dead. All of them. Even the "based" ones are told they're based by WNs because they're actually pawns for future conflicts (once Whites inherit their countries back).
They shunned tanned people for some time. Notes on the southern Okinawan accent relate to this too. Usually, civilized people of the northern hemisphere tend to grow an aversion to southern people.
>>19447 >many I doubt that. In fact, you just don't get it. Jews are hateful of everyone else. We don't need this to work for our survival. Hating other people just because they are different is both stupid and a waste of energy. You do not even need to hate people to coldly consider their disappearance to be a necessary and favourable thing either.
>>19372 > There have been no confirmations nor any further research into proving that White Caucasians created certain societies far as East Asia. Anon, look >>11770
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>>19447 You should realize that ethnoglobe-posting is literally just Pentti Linkola applied to Chinks, Africans and other garbage populations of humans.
>>19455 Most of the stuff within this thread are not confirmated sciences, only speculation and theories.
>>19447 >Sorry but many people here want non-Whites dead. Correct you should definitely be next since you enjoy being a massive faggot on this board crying about White nationalism, having no idea what you're talking about whatsoever.
>>19496 Much of the information in that thread draws directly on ancient sources. I think that is more reliable than (((sciences)))
>>19498 what?
An interesting section from Kokutai no Hongi. I think this is a very good book. There is an interesting connection between what is said about how the basis of the Japanese ethos is harmonious relations and some of the descriptions of Dharma that I have read about in places like The Dharma Manifesto. The authors of both likewise talk about how conflict and individualism are the driving forces of modern Western ideology. I can post much more, let me know if you would like more photos.
>>19510 Keep them coming.
>>19447 >Sorry but many people here want non-Whites dead. All of them. Even the "based" ones are told they're based by WNs because they're actually pawns for future conflicts (once Whites inherit their countries back). The only non-Whites I think deserve to be spared are Japs, Koreans, and Taiwanese. It might be an unpopular opinion here, but I think they are the only ones closest to us in intelligence and culture and deserve the right to their own self-determination. But niggers can burn in hell for all eternity for the damage they've caused. They have willingly been the slave and pawn of the jew for millennia. All sandniggers and semitic trash must be burned off the face of the earth and their religious dogma.
>>19555 Will do. Here is a snippet on filial piety. >>19558 That’s basically my view, at least so long as they do not interfere with the survival of our people. That, needless to say, is absolute, and the survival of all others conditional.
>>19349 >I love boy K-pop and my anus is wet but I'm finding excuses I actually hate Kpop, but I get it. It's hard to make excuses for modern Korea, but it's funny how similar they are becoming to the West as a whole. Jews gonna jew, and nobody is safe.
>>19571 I honestly believe that this is the normal human reaction to this sort of pozz
>>19571 >Those women in tradition Korean clothing looking on with disgust Based.
>>18204 Japan seems like such a shell of her former self after WWII and ((American)) occupation. What are some books about this, is there like a Japanese "Abolition of Britain"?
>>19789 Yeah, it’s pretty sad, especially when you realize that Mishima was saying this back in 1970 (2nd pic related to an extent) not to mention how much worse it must be today. That’s why I dread going there in person. I don’t know of any nonfiction works that cover what you are looking for, but in a sense Mishima’s tetralogy “The Sea of Fertility” really conveys this sense of the decay of Japan from the early Taishō period to the mid Shōwa. With each book, especially beginning in the second half, things get more modernized, more Americanized, more degenerate, more nihilistic. Even the main character transforms slowly into a perverted, decrepit old man who wasted his life from the sidelines.
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>>19169 Thanks for the contribution but I will not accept some kid who believes in jew agitprop "out of africa theory", I don't see any traces of haplogroup map or gene identifiers either. And yes "out of africa" is fake it's rather the other way around because the White race is older genetically than the dark which is younger, look up the genetic study done by P. Klysov , He answers everything with proof. Whites and niggers for instance don't even have the same ancestral DNA. I'm sure it will give more answers than this if you look your haplogroup commonality in other races.
>>19466 Imagine wanting to achieve a planetary genocide with notek.
>>19496 >solid archeological findings are made up because it hurps muh mutt-feels
>>19558 >forgets about the j00s Wish you could edit that post anon. All in all, it looks like without Turkic/Semitic DNA fucking up things, then the Whiter a race, the nobler it tends to behave. Maybe, just maybe we should actually turn all of Japan into hapas and then into Whites.
I mean, the Jomon chick is quite prettier than the Yayoi one with her lemon face. >>19073 (White bias ok but this drives a point, White surplus to upgrade other races, the only "mixing" allowed if any.)
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>>19829 Pentti Linkola literally advocates for dropping nukes on populated cities to thin the population, what are you talking about
An excerpt on harmony between man and nature. It talks about the intimate relationship between man and nature in Japan, how nature is not something to be feared, and how many festivals are centered around natural cycles, and how architecture and works of art are often inspired by nature among the Japanese.
>>19830 There are no solid archeological finds that wuz kangz Europeans into major civilization in that thread you retard. There's mostly speculation and theories, no confirmation. Can you mother fuckers obtain some braincells and stop being dumb as shit?
>>19905 Why do you lie? Just off the top of my head I can think of the red-headed or Caucausian-featured mummies that have been discovered in the Tarim Basin of China, similar artwork from that area discovered in caves dating centuries later depicting White people, etc. There are more cases of red-haired mummies in Egypt. And then on top of this there is the mythological and historical layers which, while not dependent on archaeology per se, are an invaluable insight into the ancient world. Here again we see accounts of red heads and blonds in places that they are almost non-existent today. This includes Greece, China, Mongolia, the Arabian peninsula and many other places. One would be extremely foolish just to dismiss all historical and mythological evidence of former widespread White influence, at least among the elite.
>>19907 >Just off the top of my head I can think of the red-headed or Caucausian-featured mummies that have been discovered in the Tarim Basin of China, similar artwork from that area discovered in caves dating centuries later depicting White people, etc. Those mummies are proof that Whites have lived what is today and used to border China, but not Chinese being Whites. This discovery hasn't explained anything outside of Europeans being able to travel and settle as far as East Asia. >There are more cases of red-haired mummies in Egypt. There are cases of blond and red-haired Egyptians as the nobility and rulers of Egypt, but nothing about how Whites have given birth to the Egyptian civilization. These are of course examples that Whites were born to be aristocratic and natural warriors and leaders of all kingdoms, but nothing about how we built Egypt other than furthering its development from a group of Euros who ruled over the vast majority of North Africans. >And then on top of this there is the mythological and historical layers which, while not dependent on archaeology per se, are an invaluable insight into the ancient world. I need examples of what you're referring to. >Here again we see accounts of red heads and blonds in places that they are almost non-existent today. Look I'm not denying that there weren't Nordic chads who ruled entire kingdoms and became the bulls of swarthy shit-skins or non-Euro Caucasians, but my point here is that civilization such as the Romans, Greeks, Sumerians, and China lack evidence and are mere speculation of the possibility of blond-haired and red-haired Whites establishing and creating these nations. We need beyond a doubt and evidence that decisively proves that these civilizations can be credited to us. >>19907 >This includes Greece, China, Mongolia, the Arabian peninsula and many other places. >Arabia Never heard of Whites being there, unless you're talking about Muhammad which is isn't evidence considering the dude probably just dyed his hair red, because of some symbolism. But I call bull on China, because until I see that there were clearly Whites who created the Zhou dynasty and three kingdoms were filled Whites other than that I still remain skeptical.
>>19926 I think the point you're missing is that in most of these cases, the only claim being advanced is that at most these ancient cultures were influenced heavily or ruled by a small White elite, not that each and every single person in these societies was White. This is especially true for the examples of Arabia and Mongolia advanced, where a few major White figures can be found, but there is not much reason to believe that they were all like that. Even in places like India I believe that they were utterly swamped in shitskins from the beginning, but the elite was influential enough to the point where something like 20% of the ancestry of modern day higher caste Indians is very similar to Western Europeans, and enough that religious ideas and Indo-European languages spread in the area. The China thing is up in the error. Some chinks contested the data, and already (((scientists))) should always be doubted, even in the case of the Indian data that I referred to above. Regarding Muhammad, I believe that he was White for reasons beyond red hair, see >>11810
>>19935 >The China thing is up in the error. up in the air
Ryuji had a shitty death but at least was freed from the life he would be miserable with. At least his death was tragic, something he yearned for. Still, he was 'towed' towards his death. It's far from marching towards it. I have mixed feeling for such a death.
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>>19954 How would you rank Sailor with his other books? If you have read them that is. I'm sad to say that Sailor is the only major one that I haven't read yet
>>19957 I've just started reading Mishima tbh. The sailor was my second book after the sun and steel so I can't discuss much beyond these. About the sailor, I really enjoyed it. It's only about 130 pages long, it shouldn't take you much time to read it. Man, when you read it we can discuss it, since I'm not sure if I missed something more from certain part of it. Hell, if you want to know something specific about the book you can ask me. I don't want to take the fun of going through the plot from you so I'll leave it as it is for now.
>>19965 Ooh, if you're just starting off with Mishima you've gotta read 'Patriotism'. That was probably the second thing I've ever read from him, and I loved it. That one was really short, it was a short story, but it was great. Besides that, I've read The Sea of Fertility, Confessions of a Mask and The Temple of the Golden Pavilion. Since you're browsing /fascist/ you'll probably love Runaway Horses once you get into the tetralogy. That was probably my favorite book that I have read in a long time. I hope I can find time to read Sailor in the somewhat near future. It's sad that I am currently enrolled in a modern Japanese literature course at my jewniversity, so I am loaded down with a ton of shit and reading no Mishima whatsoever. Just people like Tokuda Shusei, Mori Ogai, fucking Haruki Murakami but not the man who was nominated for a Nobel Prize and starred into multiple films and plays. probably because of 'muh fascism. Though, I will try to read it before long. Also I heard that Ryuji was some sort of metaphor for Japan, was that noticeable at all? I don't know if it's true and I don't know the plot beyond some vague details though
>>19926 Consider the fact that non-Whites are currently in the process of stealing all European countries, appropriating their culture, language, and replacing the native Whites in those countries either by murder, physical or economic displacement with the help of evil, bolshevik Jews who expertly know how to go about accomplishing said theft. You don't think this has happened before in history the exact same way? C'mon nigger.
>Also I heard that Ryuji was some sort of metaphor for Japan, was that noticeable at all? You might have better insight into japanese history, but for me it isn't very noticeable besides the following. The desire for glory and sea in young Ryuiji might symbolize the pre-war, war period of Japan and rejection of his desire for a landsman's life - how Japan degenerates under the US influence and gradual americanization (Fusako's residence, Ryuiji in a suit, Rex's), losing it's spirit. The method of repair used by the chief is intentional which you will get once you read it. But can't the Ryuji be the picture of the Mishima himself at some point - yearning for honorable death but unable to find one, only getting older and older? Anyways, the next book on my list is the golden pavilion, I hope it's going to be as good read or even better as the sailor. >patriotism It's on my list, maybe after the golden pavilion.
>>20264 >spoiler That is basically what I have heard people talk about here and there. But can't the Ryuji be the picture of the Mishima himself at some point - yearning for honorable death but unable to find one, only getting older and older? I think you're right on the mark here. I don't want to spoil anything for you about the Sea of Fertility, but a very similar theme runs through it and grows more obvious as it goes on. Of course this is perhaps underlined by how the last book of this tetralogy, The Decay of the Angel, was submitted for publication the day that Mishima killed himself. >Anyways, the next book on my list is the golden pavilion, I hope it's going to be as good read or even better as the sailor. I enjoyed it a lot. Just finished reading it not too long ago actually. It is also one of his most famous books. I bet you'll enjoy it.
>>19835 And nukes grow on trees, as everybody knows.
>>19926 >Those mummies are proof that Whites have lived what is today and used to border China, but not Chinese being Whites. Imagine being that dense that you cannot read simple English and think people here claimed the chinks are White. I skipped the rest of your post because you're pure concentrated retardedness.
>>20345 I don't think Linkola advocates for living in a cave or whatever you are imagining.
>>20346 >Imagine being that dense that you cannot read simple English and think people here claimed the chinks are White. There's a thread here we wuzzing ever single culture and China is one of them, which was what I was referring to as an example of the lack of proof in historic Whites being kangz n shiet dumbass. Of course you didn't read what I'm referring to, because only those who are over 90 IQ are smart enough to read and comprehend words.
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https://youtu.be/CjBYtYAOsJc The Ainu's Tense Relationship with Japan Featuring Shigeru Kayano. You can see some of their bear rituals in this. Just like ancient Europeans, the Ainu considered bears to be manifestations or messengers of deities.
>>20393 No one is saying "we wuz chinks" though, they are saying that "We wuz Aryans in China and influenced Chinese civilization". The evidence is all there. >>20397 >just like ancient Europeans, the Ainu considered bears to be manifestations or messengers of deities. I think I read somewhere once that the Japanese word for a god, kami, may have been borrowed from the Ainu word for bear or god, which is kamuy. Though there's also a reading of 上 pronounced 'kami' meaning 'upper part' which may have been used in distinction to 下 (shimo) to apply to sacred or higher things.
>>19560 The Japanese two-way Filial Piety is more advanced than Chinese one-way Filial Piety. >>20425 >kami and kamuy being similar Isn't because Nihongo, Ainu and Ryukyuan are all Japonic languages with a common Jomon ancestor?
>>20469 Ainu is a language isolate (although there is a few people who say it's similar to Basque), meanwhile Ryukuyuan is Okinawan, and that is indeed a Japonic language. For political reasons the Japanese government classifies it as a mere dialect though.
>>20469 Japanese and the Ryukyuan languages are demonstrably related from a common ancestor, but Ainu is actually what is called an isolate, or a language with no known links to any others, spoken or no longer spoken.
>>20470 >although there is a few people who say it's similar to Basque Kek, I'll have to dig this up. Basque is pretty cool and I've got a few books on it. I'm almost sure it's bullshit. People have to make these sort of crackpot theories between isolates.
>>20475 > I'm almost sure it's bullshit. People have to make these sort of crackpot theories between isolates. It's probably because Basque is unrelated to other European languages so it has a mysterious air to it. I have heard/read of people saying that they are somehow connected to the Berbers too, and that both descend from Atlantis.
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>>20549 Yeah I've seen that Berber hypothesis as well. I guess it doesn't hurt to try to find connections wherever you can. People have obviously tried to look into connections between Korean and Japonic languages too for the same reason that they're both kinda mysterious and because they're right next to each other.
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>>22388 Well that was rather depressing. It seems like each time it got leveled or bombed into oblivion it grew ever more Westernized and soulless, until we have what we see today, which is more or less indistinguishable from any other global capital. Up until the 1920s it still seemed to have a bit of indigenous character to it. And then by the time the Americans left they were so cucked to wave American flags at him and cheer him off top kek.
>>22419 True, whenever I watch these street interviews with Tokyoites, it's like the interviewer is talking to Americans with an Asian appearance. They dress the same as the average westerner, they know as little about native Japanese culture as the average westerner, they consume the same media and foods as westerners etc. They also seem to think English sounds 'cool' and try to push English words into conversations or onto products. Although the latter can also be observed in Europe. https://youtu.be/7gZHuFtuzdg Of course, the modernization did improve living standards for many people but you've got to wonder why they had to combine that modernization with the complete destruction of everything that made their country unique.
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>>22425 Kek I think I might know more about Japan than the people in that video you linked did. I guess it goes to underline what Motohisa Yamakage mentioned in his book The Essence of Shinto where he mentions that for many people if you ask them about the purpose of some particular festival or ritual they will have no idea whatsoever or just say something like "that's just what we do". >the modernization did improve living standards for many people In a material sense, yes. Once one buys into the logic of production, consumption, profit and efficiency the inevitable result seems to be globohomo, or at 'best' globohomo with some cultural aspects disconnected from their original contexts glued on top.
I ordered "The Way of the Samurai" and "Patriotism" by Yukio Mishima in Japanese. Looking forward to it. (Also ordered Sun and Steel.)
>>22613 >(Also ordered Sun and Steel.) Did you find an inexpensive copy or shell out for the pricey listings I've been able to find?
>>22615 I don't know, if you're talking about a Japanese copy or translation, but if you're looking for the original: https://www.cdjapan.co.jp/product/NEOBK-2453551 (I got it from here, site seems to be down right now, idk.) But this specific edition is also available on the Japanese Amazon (both ship internationally though): https://www.amazon.co.jp/-/en/三島-由紀夫/dp/4122068231
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>>22613 Nice! Patriotism is one of my favorite short stories by Mishima. I think you'll really like, I bet. The Way of the Samurai is another good one. Though it's based around the Hagakure one doesn't really need to read it to appreciate it, as Mishima has a lot of good commentary and points of his own.
>>22629 >I think you'll really like I bet I will! I'm very curious and can't wait to dive into his patriotic views and thoughts on Japan. I only read some of his shorter novels by him that don't contain much commentary on political matters. I also finally want to free myself from English translations as I guess I can find a new layer of poetic beauty and thoughtfulness in his original writings. Concerning Fascism: Mishima wrote a play I think called "My friend Hitler" or something, but I don't know much about it. I only read on pozzed Wikipedia that by some was called anti-fascist and by others called fascist. Maybe I'll get into that at a later point.
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>>22631 >I'm very curious and can't wait to dive into his patriotic views and thoughts on Japan This might not surface too directly through Patriotism, but you will see a fantastic depiction of a loyal Japanese soldier and his wife at the time of the February 26th incident. Very powerful and detailed. The really unfortunate thing is that most of his political essays, as I understand it, aren't really translated. The Japanese collections of Mishima's works and essays apparently spans volumes, but what we have translated here in English is mainly his major novels, a few plays like the Hitler one you mentioned and others, and then collections of some of his short stories. The best we can really do here in the West is to read between the lines in his works in his works like the Sea of Fertility for his messages about this stuff, or to read his works like The Way of the Samurai and Sun and Steel, or to read various studies about Mishima published in English such as Aesthetic Terrorism by Andrew Rankin which just came out a year or two ago. That one is very good itself. It's quite a shame honestly. > I also finally want to free myself from English translations as I guess I can find a new layer of poetic beauty and thoughtfulness in his original writings I have heard that his Japanese can be difficult even for Japanese speakers, but that it is apparently the top-tier stuff of modern Japanese literature. I am studying Japanese myself, I will have to try it some day in the future
Apparently Yukio Mishima even wrote an essay about fascism called 新ファシズム論 (New Fascism Theory). A lengthy quote from it can be found in this article (Japanese): http://www.midnightpress.co.jp/poetry-review-17-3-midnightpress.html. The article also discusses Mishima's thoughts on Fascism quite a bit. It's a bit complicated, but it seems Mishima analyzes Fascism as a certain historical European reality different from a Japanese reality and nationalism. The article suggests that Mishima wrote this essay in defence against leftists that called him fascist. I have to say this is highly interesting. I think I will order this collection of Mishima's essays too so I can read the whole text of him about the theory of Fascism (for the interested, the book where the essay was published is called 小説家の休暇. It can also be found on cdjapan (https://www.cdjapan.co.jp/product/NEOBK-503534), probably also on Amazon JP, but I didn't check.
>>22635 >Aesthetic Terrorism by Andrew Rankin Noted! Will check that out, thanks for the recommendation.
>>22640 No problem! Here's a page from it
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>>22639 That'd be cool if someone who speaks Japanese here could get a copy of this. In the book I have attached in the pic this essay was mentioned in brief, so I was aware of it, but there are only a tantalizing few quotes from the work in there, including an interesting one on Fascism and the connection between thought and action. That theme also appears in Runaway Horses.
>Kokutai no Hongi / Cardinal Principles of the National Entity of Japan Anyone have a download of this book?
>>22690 It's not online, at least in English. I had to drop seventy dollars on it to get a reprint of it. If you haven't seen them yet I uploaded a few photos of some interesting pages though: >>19510 >>19560 >>19901 I should find a way to scan it sometime.
>>22693 I'm actually very surprised you have a physical copy of it and even in English! I can't even find a Japanese printed edition, there only seems to be an ebook as a modern edition. Well, I guess in Japan it's a similar situation like in Germany with old "propaganda" and its republishing.
>>22697 I was rather surprised to find this book still being published as well. I think the original version of the work was published in 1947, but for whatever reason Harvard University Press decided to issue a hardcover reprint in 2013. Interestingly when MacArthur issued the Shinto Directive to abolish State Shinto in 1945 Kokutai no Hongi was specifically banned from being distributed by the government. I believe many copies were destroyed and confiscated after the war.
>>22701 >I believe many copies were destroyed and confiscated after the war. I see. Do you know how popular this book was exactly in Imperial Japan? Was it as popular as let's say "Mein Kampf" in Germany or just one publication among many?
>>22703 Wikipedia says "first issued in March 1937 and eventually circulated in millions of copies throughout the home islands and the empire".
How exactly did Japanese clan rule work? Did their daimyos have absolute rule over their family clan along with being a cult-like figure?
>>22703 I’m not sure how “popular” it was, but doubtlessly many, many people were exposed to it, since it was produced by a government committee and then widely distributed, especially in areas dealing with education. From what the introduction of my copy said though, it is apparently written in some rather arcane Japanese in spots, so it seems like it wasn’t necessarily light-reading, and I think this comes through in reading it sometimes with how extravagant they’ll get in heaping honorifics on various kami or emperors, or the word-choices of the translator which apparently were chosen to convey the tone of the original. In some ways it can be compared to Mein Kampf, but in others it is rather different. I don’t know if Mein Kampf was ever widely circulated for educational purposes and it was of course not any sort of production of the government. Some comparable stuff that people at that time were exposed to would be stuff like the The Imperial Rescript on Education which was read in schools with great reverence, memorized and even enshrined from what I’ve read in schools: https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Imperial_Rescript_on_Education or the Imperial Rescript for Soldiers and Sailors: https://web.archive.org/web/20160221021732/http://www.facstaff.bucknell.edu/jamesorr/ImpResSoldSailors1882web.htm
https://www.amren.com/news/2021/02/the-number-of-muslims-in-japan-is-growing-fast/ >The ranks of worshippers have grown in recent years, as the government has sought to attract more foreign workers and students. The number of Muslims living in Japan, though small, has more than doubled in the past decade, from 110,000 in 2010 to 230,000 at the end of 2019 (including as many as 50,000 Japanese converts), according to Tanada Hirofumi of Waseda University. The country boasts more than 110 mosques. That is a welcome change, notes Muhammad Tahir Abbas Khan, a professor at apu and the head of the Beppu Muslim Association (bma). In 2001, when he first arrived from Pakistan as a graduate student, there were only 24 mosques in the country and not a single one on Kyushu. >Yet while Muslims now have more opportunities to pray, they still struggle to find final resting places. Some 99% of Japanese are cremated, a practice Islam forbids. The central government has no system for catering to the needs of foreigners with different customs, in part because foreign workers are seen as visitors rather than permanent migrants. Most prefectures, including Oita, where Beppu is located, have no Muslim cemeteries. The bma has spent years trying to construct one in Hiji, a constellation of hamlets in the hills beyond Beppu, but local resistance has stalled the project. >The dispute over the cemetery has become a proxy for a broader debate about foreigners’ place in Japanese society. Some Japanese have embraced their new neighbours, unfamiliar customs and all. “Since they’re Japanese now, we should start understanding who they are and what their culture is,” argues Kawabe Yumiko, a town councillor who supports the cemetery. “A small town can be international and diverse.” Others disagree. “If they got Japanese nationality, they should follow Japanese customs and cremate the bodies,” says Eto Kiyotaka, another councillor, who initiated a petition against the cemetery. >The idea of burying bodies strikes many in Hiji as unclean. “It’s not something concrete, just a feeling,” says Mr Eto. “We won’t be able to drink the water with comfort.” >Ms Kawabe, in turn, wonders if it is really the water that concerns her compatriots. Scientific evidence about the safety of burials goes ignored. Her support for the cemetery prompted a flurry of angry calls and letters. “They say to me, ‘You’re Japanese, why are you on the side of the Muslims?’” Locals fret about an influx of visitors and the prospect of an Islamic school opening next. “Many people are scared,” she sighs.
>>22848 >I don’t know if Mein Kampf was ever widely circulated for educational purposes Well, it certainly was discussed in school and it was also encouraged to buy and study it.
>>22851 Interesting. I will have to look more into this. It would not surprise me in the slightest. Mein Kampf is often memed by jews as being some sort of rambling, senseless screed, but it truly is a work capable of being studied in depth, and there are many valuable lessons and ideas put forth by Hitler in it. It’s a good example of one of those books that become better every time you go back to it.
>>22850 Sonnō jōi​ when? If this happened as late as the 1930s have the high officials of government would have been run through with swords or executed by soldiers. I'm afraid that the Japanese of today are going to get absolutely flattened by the jews when the next phase of the Japanese Genocide really kicks into gear with the full-on replacement migration. Right now it seems like they just complain and grumble a bit about these mudshits who have begun to colonize their lands, but not much else. Not that we're much better in the West sadly.
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>>22858 >Right now it seems like they just complain and grumble a bit about these mudshits who have begun to colonize their lands, but not much else >Not that we're much better in the West sadly They're in a much earlier phase than the west because of how homogeneous they still were. They're currently in the first phase, which Europe and America already went through in the 60s, where the government claims that they have to take in immigrants because there's not enough people to do certain jobs or because the birthrate is low. In this phase, the immigrants are still mostly nice but as their community grows larger, they start making more demands like this. The first generation of these immigrants to the west in the 60s didn't really make any trouble for the native population, it was their children and grandchildren who did, so it's going to be interesting seeing what will happen once Japanese-born Muslims appear. On a similar note, does anyone notice all these big jewtube channels like That Japanese Man Yuta or Nobita from Japan trying to shill faggotry and interracial relationships to an insane degree? Just about every video of these big Japan channels are about those kind of topics. In a lot of them, it's just them asking Japanese women about what type of foreign men they like or what they'd like about dating a foreigner. It seems kind of creepy, imagine if someone started making videos in the west asking random girls what they like about blacks and how much they want to date them. I wouldn't like these videos if I were Japanese. But there's also a lot of these 'what do Japanese think of gay marriage'-type of videos. I think Japan in some way dodged a bullet by not being able to host the Olympics because it would have been exposed to even more of this type of bullshit. I've noticed the Japanese still have this Meji mentality where they want to copy the west (specifically the US) because they think they are culturally more developed than them so they might adopt this leftist shit as they are more exposed to it.
>>22861 Hopefully once things inevitably accelerate there, there will be some Japanese men who will attempt to organize against what is happening or to strike back at the invaders and the traitorous government who is overseeing it. >On a similar note, does anyone notice all these big jewtube channels like That Japanese Man Yuta or Nobita from Japan trying to shill faggotry and interracial relationships to an insane degree? Funny, after you linked that video on what Japanese people know about their religions earlier this week I went and watched a few more of That Japanese Man Yuta's videos and now am constantly being recommended videos of his like "What Japanese Think of LGBT People" and "Do Japanese Want Foreigners as Neighbours?", so yes I am noticing a pattern as well. I can only imagine why they are making content like this. It wouldn't surprise me if it's some sort of mixture of gaming algorithms for views and trying to appeal to jewtube's increasingly sanitized PC-environment. I have had similar thoughts about the Olympics as well. I can't imagine inviting in tons of foreigners just to host some shitty globohomo sports events. Not to mention many of these are semi-savages, arrogant shithead Westerners and other undesirables.
I wonder who assembled OP's reading list? And based on what criteria were those books chosen for an introduction into Japanese nationalism? Did OP assemble those from his experience or is this list much older than it seems? I'm also looking for a good book on Samurai mentality in general or specifically bushido as I understand it to be an important factor in the history of the Japanese race. Is Mishima's "The Way of the Samurai" the go-to work or is there any better you encountered?
>>22870 >I wonder who assembled OP's reading list? And based on what criteria were those books chosen for an introduction into Japanese nationalism? Did OP assemble those from his experience or is this list much older than it seems? I assembled the list myself. It's derived wholly from things I have read myself, or that anons recommended in the previous thread and I then subsequently read myself. I'm not sure if I'd necessarily consider it any sort of comprehensive introduction to Japanese Nationalism, I mainly decided to include what I did based on relevance to the topic at hand (i.e. tangentially related to topics or figures people on this board care about) and major concerns of many users on this board, such as Abrahamism versus pagan religions, which is why the two Shinto works are included. Regarding Bushido, maybe check out Inazo Nitobe's "Bushido, the Soul of Japan". I haven't read it, but I have seen it cited and referred to time and time again. Mishima's book isn't bad, but it has a bit of a modern focus to it, where he comments on certain parts of the Hagakure with a focus on his times. Many of the editions are subtitled with something like "The Samurai Ethic and Modern Japan" or "On Hagakure in Modern Life". Also there is a short section in Kokutai no Hongi titled "The Martial Spirit" that you may find interesting, see the second and third pics here >>19510 https://archive.org/details/bushidosoulofjap00nito/mode/2up
>>22871 I see, thank you for the clarification and recommendations. We might agree that the Japanese race is one of the few noble races inhabiting this planet and I asked myself why that is and especially how the Japanese race compares to the Aryan race. Quickly I thought of the Samurai and warrior spirit that had quite an impact on Japanese history and mentality. I don't know though if European knighthood as an expression of the Aryan race is an adequate thing to compare the Japanese form to. I don't know how intensively you studied the history and mentality of both races or if you would even agree on the nobility of the Japanese, but I wonder if you do, what makes the Japanese unique and noble? What kind of parallels do you see between us Aryans and the Japanese?
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>>22873 No problem. One thing I've noticed in particular is that though undeniably many, many aspects of Japanese culture are of foreign origin (such as the source of their writing system, Buddhism, Confucianism, tons of foreign borrowings from Chinese, etc), they historically have been able to absorb influences from wherever they can and to 'japanize' them to successfully suit the interests and nature of their race, all while not losing their identity themselves. While Whites have of course borrowed from other cultures as well from time to time, we are in comparison to the Japanese more of well-spring of innovation ourselves rather than being reliant on outside influence. What I am describing is a mixed blessing, I think. They appear to be extremely adaptable if they are exposed to it, but not creative in the sense that Whites can be with the greatest exemplars of our people throughout history. But the adaptability of the Japanese to new situations is best scene with the opening up to the West. In the 37 years between the Meiji Restoration and the Japanese victory in the Russo-Japanese war, Japan went from a isolated feudal society to a modern industrial power triumphing over Russia, the first time a major White power had been defeated by Asians. Impressive in such a short amount of time, meanwhile in comparison Native Americans have never adapted to modern society, and live their lives cursing the White man and drinking themselves to death. I think the Japanese at their best have a very heroic mentality as well. Their history and mythology is full of examples of this, with heroes striving to exemplify "makoto" or sincerity, which is characterized by selfless dedication and uncompromising idealism. You can see some of this in Kusunoki Masashige, Oshio Heihachiro and of course the Kamikaze pilots who volunteered for suicide missions. In the book "The Nobility of Failure" there are stories quoted from the memoirs of Japanese soldiers about how right before takeoff these men yelled out at their commander, all smiles, how grateful they were to be chosen for such a mission. Unsurprisingly Evola speaks highly of these pilots in Metaphysics of War. Their natural collectivism is also very admirable. They rightfully identified it is as the force at work with many of the social problems in the West in the 1930s. Proverbs like 'Deru kugi wa utareru' or 'the nail that sticks out gets hammered down' or the distinction between one's private versus public stances with honne versus tatamae are all very conducive to social harmony. It has not stopped small groups of Japanese men from rising up and killing traitors even when the situation was hopeless in the past though. In many ways they are pretty different Whites, but they feel the most "human" compared to having to interact with some of the non-White humanoids you'll see walking around the supermarket here in the US or other non-Whites I've interacted with.
>>22873 I mentioned in another thread that, when reading Western history, I experienced a profound recognition, as if I were reading about my own past lives. when it comes to the Japanese, they're quite different from Whites, but in a complementary sort of way. they have many admirable qualities which, while expressed very differently, I can still appreciate. ultimately, I want the Japanese to keep their culture and identity intact. ethnostates that perpetuate distinct races and cultures lead to true diversity and enrichment; very unlike the pozzed lies of (((diversity))) and (((enrichment))) which seek only to homogenize much of the world at the lowest common denominator.
>>22867 >I can't imagine inviting in tons of foreigners just to host some shitty globohomo sports events I vaguely remember during the last Olympics in Russia, some government official warned that previous Olympics had resulted in many single mothers with race-mixed children. There's also articles gloating that the Olympics is basically one big orgy for its participants, with the organizers having to provide massive amounts of condoms. https://www.insider.com/tokyo-olympics-athletes-condoms-social-distancing-2021-2 https://www.maxim.com/sports/condoms-at-the-winter-olympics-2018-2 https://time.com/5137272/condoms-at-olympics/ So yeah, any self-respecting nation would not want to host this event.
>>22899 Concerning the Olympics: the Tokyo Olympics head Yoshiro Mori had to resign because of some "sexist" statement ("women talk too much"). I didn't know that the cancer that infected our society called feminism is already that developed in Japan. https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/breaking-tokyo-olympics-head-yoshiro-23480415
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>>22899 Those articles are disgusting, especially with the tone they are written in: >it's only natural that these muscular superhumans have inexhaustible libidos, and with competitors as unbelievably sexy as skier Lindsey Vonn and snowboarder Silje Norendal, it's no wonder they all want to have buttloads of hot athlete sex with each other. I'm starting to think this is just some sort of weird degenerate orgy they waste billions of dollars on every few years to push globohomo propaganda.
>>22941 I mean if they were boyfriend and girlfriend of the same race, I guess it is fine. But they're not I think.
>>22958 My bad they're both women.
>>22958 It's just mentioning two of the competitors and how they are "sexy". But I was referring more to the part "they all want to have buttloads of hot athlete sex with each other". I'm sure the term "buttloads" was very purposely chosen
>>22899 What the fuck??? >>22941 >I'm starting to think this is just some sort of weird degenerate orgy they waste billions of dollars on every few years to push globohomo propaganda. Seriously. This is Beatles tier. Am I wrong for guessing women line up to get inseminated by some random athlete's cum? Actually what an utterly disgusting thought. I can tell you it sure as hell isn't men lining up to fuck women don't do that shit.
Do not worry, hopefully Japan will be spared from widespread racemixing: https://www.msn.com/en-in/sports/other/no-sex-partying-or-shopping-for-athletes-at-tokyo-games/ar-BB1dna8V
>>22958 No, it's pretty clear they want it to be a Brave New World kind of thing where they have sterile sex with strangers. >>22971 It seems like the Covid psyop does have a positive side in the end.
When Japanese Fascism comes, there will be a White-weeb genocide and either destruction or reutilization of "anime". Hentai will certainly be prohibited. (And this will be good) Bonazi, let no American weeb faggot live.
>>22978 Believe me, dealing with certain parts of the population would bring about a "weeb genocide" by itself even without even meaning too. Everyone likes to pretend that anime fans are 'based' online, but literally without an exception most people openly into anime I've encountered in real life have been mutts,niggers, gross dumpy girls or fatties. This is why I don't tell anyone I watch stuff sometimes to not be associated with freaks.
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>>22970 >The day anons discovered the "Olympics" is actually just some kind of a sick elite giant state sponsored interracial orgie I just spent 5 minutes looking up the 3 last olympic presidents and they're all globalist elite trust fund babies with connections to WEF etc. Case closed.
>>22981 >mutts and niggers They're born as such. Can't change your race. The liked anime because it lets them forget about their miserable lives. I'd say nothing wrong with that. >gross dumpy girls or fatties Oh god.
About the Olympic people having sex, is it because of ego? I am a bit fat and whenever I run a lot or do some exercises I always felt great. And then I wanted to fuck a woman so badly. That's why they do it? I'm surprised about this orgy shit, never heard of it.
>>22991 Exercise sparks out all your hormones and natural drugs like seratonin and endorphins in your brain. But this is mostly a beatles monkey-do phenomenon where the male distinguished himself from all the other males, so said male is special in a way hence women will not hesitate to give up their pussy in the hopes that they can have good offspring.
>>22991 >Age, training intensity, and training duration of participants had significant (PG0.02) univariate relationships, with libido scores, and were thus included in the multivariate model. In the multivariate model, trainingintensity (PG0.0001) and duration (PG0.002) components were the most significantly associated with libido group designation (high/normal vs low). Participants with the lowest (OR = 6.9, 95% confidence interval [CI] = 2.6–17.9) and mid-range training intensities(OR = 2.8, 95% CI = 1.4–5.3) had greater odds of high/normal libido state than those with the highest training intensity. Participants with the shorter (OR = 4.1, 95% CI = 1.6–10.0) and mid-range training durations (OR = 2.5, 95% CI = 1.3–4.8) at their current intensity also had greater odds of high/normal libido score than those with a greatest duration.Conclusion: Exposure to higher levels of chronic intense and greater durations of endurance training on a regular basis is significantly associated with a decreased libido scores in men. Clinicians who treatmale patients for sexual disorders and/or council couples on infertility issues should consider the degree of endurance exercise training a manis performing as a potential complicating factor This one study says that men who did the most intense types of training in this study had a significantly lower libido, while it was higher for those with lower medium amounts of exercise. I think this makes sense intuitively. It is usually the sluggish, unhealthy people who are inactive and hornier. Idle hands are the devil's playthings. I literally just think they are degenerate normalfags who also think that their globohomo orgy is part of 'the experience' too. https://sci-hub.do/10.1249/MSS.0000000000001235
>>22978 >Hentai will certainly be prohibited. Fun fact: Japs are not Anglo-Saxons, they were and are perfectly fine with pornography. In fact, the current laws regarding censorship in pornography are the result of the American occupation after ww2.
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>>22978 >bonazi
>>23020 Seeing examples of lewd wood carvings doesn't mean that all of Japanese society had a lax attitude toward it. And the west has high acceptance levels of pornography too so not sure what your point is other than a ham-fisted swipe at anglos. Whether they have a little pixel box from a law 80 years ago or not doesn't change much.
>>18291 I finally remembered one of the places where I read this being implied, which was Savitri Devi's short essay on Shinto: >One of the first policies of the American occupational government was to prohibit the teaching, in all the schools of Japan, of the above mentioned Shinto texts, namely of The Book of the Gods and The Book of the Emperors.
>>23035 >>23020 I'd be curious to see how much to pornography and prostitution there truly was. It seems like it was utterly rampant there even in the late 19th century and early 20th. If one reads Japanese literature from this period they literally never stop mentioning men going to brothels, running off to marry whores, groups of men going around Yoshiwara together, pornographic artwork being sold on the streets despite government prohibitions, etc. And then from earlier periods I've heard that kabuki theater turned so unbelievably degenerate that the shogunate had to ban female actresses to stop them from whoring themselves out to the highest bidders after the show ended, but when they did that, the male actors playing the women ended up doing the same thing. I do not know how much this is the product of some weird urban environment or something more innate to the Japanese race. I mean even today some of the most sexually bizarre things I have ever seen have been the product of Japanese people.
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Colorized versions of old photos by DigitalMixComp. >>23047 >I do not know how much this is the product of some weird urban environment or something more innate to the Japanese race I think the type of things you described mostly came and come out of Edo/Tokyo. So I do think it has more to do with the effects of living in an overcrowded city than something racial. We see something similar in the west where big cities like New York, Paris or Amsterdam don't necessarily represent the people living in smaller towns. Cities just bring the worst out of people. Still, Edo was probably pretty tame compared to Weimar. One sexual aspect of their culture that I do strongly dislike is their seeming tolerance of adultery and lack of respect for monogamy. I read Genji Monogatari, one of the most praised Japanese works of literature, a while ago and even in there it seems like cheating is considered to be the norm rather than an exceptional transgression.
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万歳!
>>23055 万歳!
>>23035 The Japanese was fine with prostitution and all the other weird sexual shit they've done since the warring clans within Japan were fighting for unification. You retards don't decide how Japanese fascists will choose to rule its country, just like the Japanese won't decide how we rule ours. The Japanese have rarely had problems with sexual imagery being expressed like we do here in the West today. This isn't to say that I'm fine with porn or any hedonism such as fetishism being expressed through statues or stuff like that, but you losers are starting to get annoying with this lame butthurt crying about muh weebs and I do not like otaku culture at all whatsoever for how fucked up it is, but with or without otaku culture Japan would of still been plunged into degeneracy, because of the American occupation, because at the end of the day America fucked over Japan and caused its social decay, not some big eyed and purple-haired drawings.
This is a summary of the first chapter of the book "Bushido, the soul of Japan", written by Inazo Nitobe, called "Bushido as an Ethical System". I compiled it myself by assembling all major quotes, I thought were important in this chapter. As I'm reading it right now, I thought it could benefit some of you who are interested in it too and I think I can improve my understanding through that quite a lot too. Enjoy. >The Japanese word which I have roughly rendered Chivalry, is, in the original, more expressive than Horsemanship. Bu-shi-do means literally Military-Knight-Ways - the ways which fighting nobles should observe in their daily life as well as in their vocation; in a word, the "Precepts of Knighthood," the noblesse oblige of the warrior class. Bushido, then, is the code of moral principles which the knights were required or instructed to observe. It is not a written code; at best it consists of a few maxims handed down from mouth to mouth or coming from the pen of some well-known warrior or savant. More frequently it is a code unuttered and unwritten, possessing all the more the powerful sanction of veritable deed, and of a law written on the fleshly tablets of the heart. It was founded not on the creation of one brain, however able, or on the life of a single personage, however renowned. It was an organic growth of decades and centuries of military career. True, early in the seventeenth century Military Statutes (Buke Hatto) were promulgated; but their thirteen short articles were taken up mostly with marriages, castles, leagues, etc., and didactic regulations were but meagerly touched upon. Only as it (Bushido) attains consciousness in the feudal age, its origin, in respect to time, may be identified with feudalism. In Japan its rise was simultaneous with the ascendency of Yoritomo, late in the twelfth century. Again, in Japan, when feudalism was formally inaugurated, the professional class of warriors naturally came into prominence. These were known as samurai, meaning literally guards or attendants. A Sinico-Japanese word Bu-ke or Bu-shi (Fighting Knights) was also adopted in common use. They were a privileged class, and must originally have been a rough breed who made fighting their vocation. This class was naturally recruited, in a long period of constant warfare, from the manliest and the most adventurous, and all the while the process of elimination went on, the timid and the feeble being sorted out, and only "a rude race, all masculine, with brutish strength" surviving to form families and the ranks of the samurai. Coming to profess great honor and great privileges, and correspondingly great responsibilities, they soon felt the need of a common standard of behavior (Bushido), especially as they were always on a belligerent footing and belonged to different clans.
The world needs more rooftop Koreans killing nignog trash and communists. Koreans would be the best non-White group in the West to form and alliance with when SHTF.
>>19073 Yomon look very similar to the native Europeans (which had Aryan features but were slightly darker skinned with dark hair etc). Modern Europeans are the result of post glacial era migrating Aryans mixing with native Europeans that lived in more temperate climates on the continent, or their remnants in the more remote and inaccessible regions (such as mountain ranges) at later times . Just like modern Japanese are the result of Yomon mixing with gook invaders (or the other way around). These populations of both Europe and Japan probably being a result of pre glacial era migrations, or as another anon said, simply by evolving in similar environments and being relatively isolated for a while. So yes, Japanese did not originate from modern Europeans, but they are likely sharing some older ancestry, which could explain them being one of the very few non-White nations that have risen above the level of the animal-men, even if not on the same level as Europeans.
>>23065 >The Japanese have rarely had problems with sexual imagery being expressed like we do here in the West today. I'm not proposing to dictate how the Japanese run their society. I'm taking this assertion to task because I don't think you know as much about Japan as you think you do to make this claim. You see a few woodblock prints and read some stories about prostitution (which is not pornography, and Europe and North America had whore houses too) and extrapolate that into the Japanese having a lax attitude toward pornography on the whole. It's just as likely these anecdotes are not representative of the wider society. Not sure where that unrelated rant about imagined oppression against anime fans came from either. Maybe you replied to the wrong person.
Given all the talk about pornography and prostitution and whatever, I'm interested in what people think about a similar topic. What about all the war-rape that happens? Do you think it happened as much as people say it did? I'm not saying war-rape is wrong, just wondering if it happened as much as is claimed.
>>23096 >I'm not saying war-rape is wrong what
>>23096 I'm sure a lot of it happened. I'd be careful of the more extravagant accounts, but this stuff happens, and certainly the term 'Asiatic barbarism' exists for a reason. The Japanese also treated prisoners like animals. Capture was for cowards. This is why it doesn't surprise me that there are all sorts of stories of prisoners being executed, American prisoners being cannibalized in couple cases (Chichijima incident). It reminds me a lot of the cases of primitive warfare that have been reported time and time again where they would literally exterminate everybody, torture the prisoners and laugh at them and in a few cases with Melanesian peoples, beating them over the head and cooking them alive. Outside of White people, people don't give a fuck about their out-group. They might as well be bugs
>>23096 There was rape on all sides, the Americans were also quite cruel to the Japanese once they occupied their lands. That's an inevitable aspect of war. >Carol Huntington writes that the American soldiers who raped German women and then left gifts of food for them may have permitted themselves to view the act as a prostitution rather than rape. Citing the work of a Japanese historian alongside this suggestion, Huntington writes that Japanese women who begged for food "were raped and soldiers sometimes left food for those they raped." https://youtu.be/5Ywe5pFT928 https://www.darkmoon.me/2015/the-untold-story-of-american-war-crimes-in-japan-part-2-and-3/
>>23076 Interesting. If this is from one chapter it seems like it's pretty dense with good info. I will have to go and check it out myself.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-56095215? >Japan's LDP party invites women to 'look, not talk' at key meetings >Days after Japan's Olympics chief was forced to resign over sexist comments, its governing party has decided to invite women to attend key meetings - as long as they do not speak. >The Liberal Democratic Party (LDP) proposed allowing five female lawmakers to observe its all-male board meetings. >They cannot talk during the meeting - only submit opinions afterwards.
>>23124 gotta let the boys calm down you know, just how it is
>>23349 Based. I'm sure they'll get governing done much more efficiently and rationally
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https://www.vice.com/en/article/z3v9be/a-japanese-cult-that-believes-its-leader-is-an-alien-from-venus-is-speaking-at-cpac >On Friday afternoon at the Hyatt Regency Orlando, Hiroaki “Jay” Aeba, a prominent Japanese conservative, will address CPAC about the threat China poses to the U.S., taking a prime spot in the lineup just after Donald Trump Jr. >Aeba is no stranger to CPAC. In fact, 2021 marks the tenth anniversary of his first visit to the Republican lovefest. >His speaker bio on the CPAC website notes that Aeba is the chairman of the Japanese Conservative Union (JCU), a right-wing political organization, and that he helped found CPAC Japan, which has been running for the last four years in Tokyo. >What isn’t mentioned is the central role Aeba plays in a Japanese cult called Happy Science, whose leader believes he is the Messiah and sells “miracle cures” for COVID-19.
>>23895 Kek I think I watched some documentary from these guys a while back that tried to the debunk the Rape of Nanking. What I really want to know is why CPAC is hosting people like Young Pharaoh and Happy Science. Not that I expected much more than a complete clown show.
>>23899 >Young Pharaoh I think I read in another thread on here that he is no longer welcome because of anti-semitic remarks. I guess they are just trying to appeal to as many vaguely right-wing sentiments as possible, with of course the exception of anyone who is openly critical of the jews. Trump and his associates are sleazy conmen trying to milk out any cash they can get from the last remnants of the 2016 MAGA energy.
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>>23901 Yeah they kicked out Young Pharaoh and now he's been spilling spaghetti all over Youtube. It's pretty funny though, I watched a few minutes of his debate with a rabbi and the pic I've attached and the expression of the rabbi should sum it up. >Trump and his associates are sleazy conmen trying to milk out any cash they can get from the last remnants of the 2016 MAGA energy. Truth. So many people are still mentally-enslaved to that retard too unfortunately.
What do you all make of their suicide rates?
>>23952 I think it's a combination of a couple things. A major factor is probably their nature as a race combined with their preoccupation with honor and shame. And the latter factor very likely grows out of the former more or less. Since they have never been Abrahamized it's naturally seen as less taboo than it would be among many Whites. Apparently their suicide rates have gone down a bit recently before (((Covid))) though, and that has led to a massive spike, to no one's surprise.
>>23952 Same cause as their low birth-rates: urbanization. Tokyo, as safe and clean as it is, is pretty much the Mouse Utopia put into practice. And their cancerous work culture.
>>23965 >>23952 Japan puts productivity over all else. There is a reason why "black company" is a common term in modern Japan. 20 hour workdays, with people drinking large amounts of caffiene and taking drugs like adderal to keep up. Everyone in Japan, including women, are expected to get a job as soon as possible above all else, and put their entire life into it, else they be accused of being a parasite. It is modeled after Anglo-American corporatism, taken to an extreme due to the low population of Japan. "Quality of life" is a meme in Japan. Not only this, but simply in order to get an apartment, you need to have a cosigner, the school system teaches internationalism and English in order to promote international trade, and the major centers of japan are nothing but tourist attractions. Don't even mention the japanese military. Modern Japan is a sweatshop that just happens to be clean with a massive escapist entertainment industry.
>>23998 >low population of Japan Japan has double the population of France... and 20 hour workdays are not at all common lmao.
>>24002 He’s not too far off from the truth even if might be exaggerated. From everything I’ve read they work more hours on average annually than like any other country on the planet and are forced to work unpaid overtime, and to show up extremely early in the morning and to leave far after their supposed to get off on paper. They’re such good wagecucks that some of them will even work until they drop dead just to please their corporate overlords and to not lose face
>>23998 Soooo be a NEET?
>>24006 NEETdom is ultimately worthless too unfortunately
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>>24003 Japanese people are dying from overwork by putting in way more than 60-90 hours a week. Japs literally die on the subway because they slave insane hour weeks with no "work-life-balance", it's not even considered a thing in japan. This is so common it's nomenclature, it's called "Karoshi"(Death by overwork) either from a fatal heart attack or stroke, or a suicide triggered by overwork is now a recognised cause of death and as we know medically, today, improperly managed stress literally causes death and disease. >>24006 Pretty sure that on an average basis any part time non systemite or neet have it better as a human being than the corporate wagecuck company man in Japan or most other places. Seen in how most wageslaves fucking hate neets or hate unemployed people in general because they're literally miserable wishing they could relax. With japan's normal 90 hour suicide weeks and 12 hour days I can see why. Anyways I don't give a shit about what the occupying jews do, I want them fucking gone and I want these countries to burn so that the real natives and the real people can fight back or die trying. I spit on anybody who even works for these (((systems))) working, or not, if you're not using every opportunity you can to leech off the kikes and waiting to burn it all down you are a literally a fucking moron.
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>>24007 Worthless to whom? In Japan since 70's or most other places life is some sick worthless bugman consumer to be used and discarded lmao. Most of their senseless wagecuck lives were all work, lives that never really began. To cope they rewired their brains to start liking work and to excessively consume(including drugs or alcohol) to make things "better" which is a complete and utterly worthless cope if it's not used on important things like property and family.(which of course the jews are trying to make very difficult with their various asset and housing bubbles in order that intelligent people won't settle and have children because only intelligent people care about such things as where and how they bring up kids. Which is also a quite wrong attitude thats been brainwashed might I add.) Today us wagers don't work for anything good either, if I could say I worked for my people, my race a good thing it would be justified but today it isn't, hasn't been since the 60's or 1945 if you will. It's the sad truth in kike society. The whole NEET thing is quite clearly an opt-out social protest from the grind of alienated young people just like the hippies in the 60's but different and more, very boring and dull in expression. And you know what, I don't blame them at all. Not that the kikes will tell you that though. It's all denigration and dehumanization, but when people do it back to them they cry 6 million.
>>24010 >Worthless to whom? I more meant worthless in the sense that ultimately it’s not very fulfilling either I’d imagine—not that wagecucking does that to one either, if anything it is of course the opposite, I agree with you that NEETdom in Japan is best seen as some form of social protest against their work environments / culture. Perhaps I am conflating NEETdom and hikikomoris a bit too much, because the latter is what I had in mind more than NEETs in the general sense. Ultimately the NEET lifestyle is the superior lifestyle in general. It comes close to be worthless though, at least in my opinion, if one just NEETs it up at home and consumes anime or whatever all day though. Still superior to wagecucking, even then. I’d just rope at that point if my options were either that or wagecucking.
>>23998 >It is modeled after Anglo-American corporatism, taken to an extreme due to the low population of Japan. that's part of it. I read that traditionally, Japan always emphasized strong work ethic, but as part of a very different system, in which people would pursue meaningful occupations, train as apprentices, and spend their lives mastering that pursuit, while being loyal to their company/clan. obviously this applies to bushido, but also to many other things (architecture, craftsmanship, even being a merchant). they were expected to pour their lives into their work because it meant meaningful accomplishments and a lifelong path shared with others, which was mentally and spiritually fulfilling. the problem is that they're trying to apply the old work ethic, dedication, and loyalty to meaningless ZOG labor, which is soulless and unfulfilling. it's the fact that they're following their traditional principles, only to get an empty, degrading lifestyle in return, which pushes them to suicide or NEEThood.
>>23998 >else they be accused of being a parasite Ironically, this system has led to the creation of actual parasites (hikikomori) who became so burned out from the expectations of society that they simply gave up and no longer care about what others might think of them. I think we are getting very close to seeing this phenomenon appear in the west (it already has appeared on a smaller scale) as wageslaving no longer comes with the rewards that used to motivate people into doing it (a wife, a decent house, a decent car, a high standard of living). >>24011 >Ultimately the NEET lifestyle is the superior lifestyle in general Agreed but I think work itself wouldn't be so bad if you could work from home or in nature and didn't have to commute everyday, which is kind of what working used to be like before the industrial revolution. It is said that Medieval European peasants worked less hours than modern-day wageslaves.
Check out this kiked website attacking Japan constantly: https://unseenjapan.com >(((Noah Oskow))) 毎回 >>24015 Not even just European peasants, I’ve read that even hunter gatherers did less work on average than modern day wagies, and at least that was something directly rewarding and relevant to their own survival rather than merely being some useless task that you have to do in order for Mr. Goldberg to dispense your allotted shekels for you. I agree that maybe doing something in nature wouldn’t be as bad, at least depending on the what the job was (i.e. not chopping down trees or something).
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>>24017 >Check out this kiked website attacking Japan constantly I saw some of his videos on youtube before. His videos on both Okinawa and Hokkaido were actually of quite high-quality. But then I checked his website and was dumbfounded by these articles and quickly made the connection between his name and the nature of the articles and some of his videos. For example, in his Okinawa video, he claimed that Japan being one of the homogeneous countries on earth was a myth, despite the fact that the Okinawan language is still part of the Japonic language family and was de facto ruled by the Japanese for centuries before proper annexation. It seems that no matter where they go, the kikes really like stirring up minority groups and attempting to 'liberate' them. >I’ve read that even hunter gatherers did less work on average than modern day wagies Well yeah, the hunter-gatherer lifestyle was superior to the modern one in many ways, it's essentially the lifestyle that humans were built for. It's no coincidence that the three of the most successful races of conquerors (the Indo-Aryans, the Bedouin and the Mongols) all lived off a carnivorous diet and had a pastoral lifestyle. There's archaeological evidence supporting the idea that humans became weaker and shorter after the agricultural revolution too. That Thuletide guy made a good article on this topic recently.
>>24020 Does this mean the Mongols were the good guys and the chinks were just as kiked thousands of years ago as they are now?
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>>24020 I just went and dug up the video in question and he's definitely doing some subtle subversion on his audience which is probably composed of mostly low-information viewers. To group in Ryukyuans with Ainu, Koreans and Chinese as Japanese 'minority groups' just strikes me as absurd. The fact that they were some sort of independent kingdom for some time and speaking a language which is part of the same family from Japanese doesn't automatically make them into some completely separate group, especially when they are clearly racially / ethnically of the same people or minimally extremely closely related, especially when compared with groups in Japan which are clearly not Japanese such as the Ainu for example. If we look at the recent history of almost every modern nation-state one will see that even in the 19th century some of them were still extremely internally diverse (in the linguistic / cultural sense, not in the jewish sense of the word) or even politically fragmented in cases like Germany. Japan was no different. There was unification, centralization, implementation of a standardized language. This is really the same sort of kikery at work in cases like Spain and Catalan speakers. jews thrive on D&C and conflict. >>24023 Thinking of good guys versus bad guys in this situation is bluepilled. Chinese haven't always been kiked though. Stuff such as Confucianism and other philosophies created there are not bad in the slightest as far as I'm concerned.
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>>24026 Even before proper annexation, the Ainu had been interacting with the Japanese for centuries too. They weren't complete strangers like in the case of Native Americans and Europeans. And even before those trade interactions, some Japanese would flee/migrate to Hokkaido and probably ended up intermixing with the locals. In fact, I recently read this interesting article on a blog about Shinto where it was said that the Ainu used to worship Yoshitsune, a famous historical figure from mainland Japan. http://www.greenshinto.com/wp/2021/01/10/ainu-religion-bird-pt-1/ >Later in a footnote, Bird explains that Yoshitsune was a hero of the Gempei War in the twelfth century and brother of Yoritomo, the barbarian quelling great general, and that he was forced into committing suicide by his brother suspicious of his popular appeal. “Many believe that he escaped to Yezo [Hokkaido], she continues, “and lived among the Ainu for many years, dying among them at the close of the twelfth century. None believe this more firmly than the Ainus themselves, who assert that he taught their fathers the arts of civilisation, with letters and numbers, and gave them righteous laws, and he is worshipped by many of them under a name which signifies Master of the Law’. >>24023 If we're talking about good guys in the sense of which side had more inspiring values, I'd say the Mongols are definitely better than the Han. I think there is some truth in what Varg said about the corrupting nature of 'civilization'.
>>24015 peasants used to wake up around sunrise so there were no need for any alarm clocks, City life and the 9-5 hour jobs killed our circadian rhythm for the worst. Most of modern life is based around artificial timetables rather than sunlight.
>>24027 There seems to be a lot weird info surrounding this whole Yoshitsune story. First we have the Isabella Bird quote from that article that says that they indeed honor Yoshitsune as a deity, and then there is the John Batchelor quote which insinuates that Yoshitsune is basically irrelevant and worshiped only to appease the Japanese. And then the website for the Hokkaido prefecture attacks Japanese people the entire article and claims that the entire Yoshitsune story is Shogunate propaganda to colonize Hokkaido and that Yoshitsune became equated with Okikurumi: >Stories depicting Yoshitsune's travels in Hokkaido were often used by the Tokugawa Shogunate for propaganda as one way of forcing the Ainu to subordinate themselves to the Shogunate. This was done during the Edo period when the Shogunate intended to gain control of the island. [...] In the legends, he did not die in the battle of Koromogawa in Tohoku but survived and came to Ezo. The Shogunate announced that Yoshitsune became the Ainu's heroic god, Okikurumi, or at least could be equated with Okikurumi. Using this tale the government hoped to govern the entire Ainu people in a unified way. The Yoshitsune shrine still remains in Biratori and was built as a shrine in which Ainu people would worship. http://www.pref.hokkaido.lg.jp/ks/bns/digest/chapter_7_2.htm I don't see any evidence of this cited anywhere else though. And even the Ainu seem to claim that Yoshitsune did in fact visit them and assist them in various ways. Seems like there is some possible muddying of the waters from somewhere, perhaps from Ainu. >>24028 I have told people this before but they always act like I'm a schizo. Living one's life in accordance with very specifically-set clocks is very modern
>>24020 If the Hunter-gathers life style is so superior then why did most of the civilized world farm grain and other crops that supposedly made us weaker than maintaining a primitive diet? Most of Europe used grain as the main supply to feed everyone within a nation. Are you trying to say that for a thousand years we pointlessly used farming just because we thought it was a good idea or something?
>>24042 >Are you trying to say that for a thousand years we pointlessly used farming just because we thought it was a good idea or something? Not inconceivable, since we as a species are doing the exact same thing today with modern technology and science, regardless of its obvious destructive impact on our societies and environment. Also take the permaculture pill, reject (((agriculture)))
>>24043 Modern tech and science today aren't as necessary as food. You also didn't really answer his question either, because I too wonder why /fascist/ thinks agriculture is no easy to abandon or as if our ancient ancestors could simply give up farming for hunting food as issues such as overhunting doesn't exist.
>>24043 Tell me more about permaculture. What is it? Is it compatible with destroying our enemies forever and securing our race's existence and prosperity?
>>24050 >no meant so
>>24052 All I know about permaculture is that it's supposed to be the idea of working with nature to obtain food instead of cultivating and constantly digging up dirt to grow crops. The problem I think that makes permaculture unrealistic is the fact that still suffers the same issues with agriculture when it comes to farming in environments not suitable for obtaining foods along with needing at least 90% of a nation's population to be filled with farmers who daily engage in the principles and ideas that is permaculture and never use agricultural farming forever. Permaculture is a modern idea, so there is no guarantee that it is better than farming or that farmers will simply switch from agriculture to permaculture, because you tell them it's a good idea and it stops fucking up our soil and surrounding environments.
>>24042 >why did most of the civilized world farm grain and other crops that supposedly made us weaker than maintaining a primitive diet? It's easier to feed large populations like that, compared to hunting. But that doesn't change that it's less nutritious. >Are you trying to say that for a thousand years we pointlessly used farming just because we thought it was a good idea or something? It was partly that people just didn't know any better.
>>22693 Any luck scanning it?
>>24111 I had totally forgotten that I had said this. I’ll look into it tomorrow if I have time.
>>24113 Thanks
>>24259 Trying it now. I don't know how it will turn out, I'm using a scan option of my phone, but I'll try to make it look nice. The biggest issue is to see if I can easily get it off my phone.
It seems to let me do PDFs up to 24 pages long when it comes to scanning. So I've done that much so far, I will try to do the rest tomorrow when I have more time.
Here's a great website listing Japanese literature prior to 1600: http://www.meijigakuin.ac.jp/~pmjs/trans/
>>24360 I’m surprised there is so much, honestly. The only one I’ve really read is Hōjōki. It is pretty short and quite a comfy yet pessimistic read dealing with the impermanence of things. Made me want a comfy little hut

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