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Fascist and Third Position Books Anonymous Board owner 04/06/2020 (Mon) 15:06:20 No.4
Post good works that you've read and ask for recommendations ITT. UPDATED 8/19/20 BASIC READING LIST National Socialism: >Mein Kampf (Adolf Hitler) The most reliable translations are the Stalag edition and the Thomas Dalton translation. >Hitler's Second Book / Zweites Buch (Adolf Hitler) >The Program of the NSDAP (Gottfried Feder) >The Manifesto for the Breaking of Interest Slavery (Gottfried Feder) >Hitler's Table Talk Black Front / Strasserism: >German Tomorrow by Dr. Otto Strasser >Deutschlands Erneuerung by Dr. Otto Strasser (in German only) Savitri Devi >The Lightning and the Sun (Savitri Devi) >And Time Rolls On (Savitri Devi) >The Impeachment of Man (Savitri Devi) http://www.savitridevi.org/home.html Iron Guard / Romanian Fascism: >For my Legionaries by Corneliu Zelea Codreanu British Union of Fascists (BUF): >Fascism: 100 Questions Asked and Answered (Oswald Mosley) >Tomorrow We Live (Oswald Mosley) >My Life (Oswald Mosley) >Fascism v. Jewry (William Joyce) >National Socialism Now (William Joyce) >The Coming Corporate State (A. Raven Thompson) >Spring Comes Again (Jorian Jenks) Italian Fascism: >Origins and Doctrine of Fascism (Giovanni Gentile) >CasaPound Italia platform: http://www.casapounditalia.org/p/who-we-are.html Miscellaneous Secondary Literature Worth Reading: By "worth reading" I mean not totally kiked garbage. These are not fascist authors. >The Wages of Destruction (Adam Tooze) >Holy Legionary Youth (Roland Clark) >The Nazi War on Cancer (Robert Proctor) >The Occult Roots of Nazism (Nicholas Goodrick-Clarke) >Black Sun: Aryan Cults, Esoteric Nazism, and the Politics of Identity (Nicholas Goodrick-Clarke) >Japan's Holy War (Walter Skya) --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Cultured Thug is also a good YouTube channel for overviews of fascist literature: https://www.bitchute.com/channel/cultured_thug/ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFVf_ACP5I8VF5VsmSDQ8tQ Helpful Links: https://sci-hub.tw/ http://gen.lib.rus.ec/ https://archive.org/ https://www.bitchute.com/cultured_thug/
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(1) The Great Replacement by Brenton Tarrant (2) 2083 by Anders Behring Breivik (3) The Inconvenient Truth by Patrick Crusius (4) Siege by James Mason
(1) Mein Kampf (Stalag) by Adolf Hitler (2) The Manifesto for the Abolition of Enslavement to Interest by Gottfried Feder (3) NSDAP Program (4) The Track of the Jew Through the Ages by Alfred Rosenberg
(1) The Lightning and the Sun by Savitri Devi (2) The Impeachment of Man by Savitri Devi (3) The Metaphysics of War by Julius Evola (4) Origins and Doctrine of Fascism by Giovanni Gentile
>>1319 It looks like your third pic might have broken, you might need to post it again. Also, starting with the Greeks is the only way tbh.
>>1324 It was another « Start with the Greeks » I tried to upload it again but the same happened, so I deleted the post
>>1325 export it as a png from GIMP?
Mishima's Sun and Steel.
>>1400 Big F I love that book. It's terrifying and prophetic. >>1402 It sucks that this book is literally impossible to find as a hard copy without spending over a hundred dollars, it's ridiculous.
>>1403 I read all this on my e-book, but I plan of either re-reading them in hard-copies or doing my own book-binding, most likely the latter, but only once I finish a book and once I decide in materials since I want standardization.
Does /fascist/ know of any good tactics/strategy materials? I'm interested in that sort of thing and was wondering where one might start. I figured this was a decent place to ask.
>>1459 What type of tactics or strategy in particular?
>>1461 I'd love to answer this question but I'm not sure how, which is part of why I'm looking for materials on the subject.
>>1464 Are we talking squad tactics, battles and operation, or grand strategy?
>>1459 Strategy by Liddell Hart is a classic text.
>>1857 I'm looking for battles and operations, for now. Grand strategy is less interesting to me I think. Thanks for the direction, anon. >>1903 I'll check it out, thanks.
(1) Twilight over England by William Joyce (2) The Coming Corporate State by A. Raven Thompson (3) National Socialism Now! by William Joyce (4) For My Legionaries by Corneliu Zelea Codreanu
>>1920 I'd fucked up, here is the the third PDF
Does anyone know very obscure and not well known books even for someone looking into fascism?
Derek Holland- Political Soldier A classic piece about Third Position
>>2690 Thank you anon.
>>1403 I got it in the original japanese, which costs basically nothing
>>2992 Japs and those able to read it have it lucky, then. I'm learning Japanese but the learning-curve is very steep in reading more complex texts due to the writing system especially. I haven't been doing it that long though.
>>2994 Keep it up, friend. Jap may take some time getting used to, and Mishima is definitely very advanced - but it's a very beautiful language and well worth the effort.
>>3002 >>3002 >Keep it up, friend I will, thank you. I've heard time and time again that Mishima is considered a master of the Japanese language, so I can only what I am missing. いつか三島の「奔馬」を日本語で読みたいです。英語では、すごくいい小説だと思いました。頑張ります
"Might is Right" by Ragnar Redbeard
>>3002 Japanese can be beautiful to read? It feels so rudimentary and tacked-on from what (admittedly little) I've learned of it.
>>3155 >It feels so rudimentary and tacked-on What do you mean by this? The only thing I can think of off the top of my head is some of the ambiguity that can result from how they don't require pronouns often or the lack person inflection of the verbs. The ambiguity can be a little difficult for me a times but it's usually inferable from context.
Today I will start with the greeks, as all roads lead to them, What I am most interested in in Mishima-sama, and I know that I must first read Nietzsche, but what should I read before him? Maybe we should start building a sort of diagram containing a comprehensive guide of what literature path one should follow if we are interested in a certain doctrine
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>>3289 With the Greeks what are you most interested in? I definitely cannot pretend to be someone who has read all of the Greeks, but I have read some here and there and might be able to help you out a bit along with any other anons who chime in. If you're interested in history, check out Herodotus' Histories, and then pick up from the end of that with Thucydides' History of the Peloponnesian War. I thought Herodotus was genuinely fun to read and it's interesting to hear all of the tales that he reports and various absurd happenings and the like. Thucydides is drier but still very readable. For philosophical stuff there's a lot of angles that you could try. Many people start with the Socratic Dialogues like Republic, Gorgias, Timaeus and Critias. The first one I read was Gorgias, which isn't long and has a part where (and this was unironically why I bought it) one of the participants in the dialogue proclaims that might makes right is natural law and that tyranny is just according to nature. I find Aristotle to be fairly dry, but his Politics is essential I'd say, along with Nicomachean Ethics. Besides Plato and Aristotle there are of course the various Pre-Socratics and Sophists, and these are considered to be influential on Nietzsche, who disliked Plato and Socrates, instead being a fan of people like Empedocles, Heraclitus and other figures whose work has unfortunately not survived in whole. Not all of the stuff from these people is interesting but I found them enjoyable. For Mishima I'd say that you don't have to necessarily read Nietzsche first to enjoy him. I didn't, personally. But later I read various secondary sources on Nietzsche and learned about how much Nietzschean stuff is in his work. I think his books are very re-readable so they might be worth reading and then coming back to later for a second round. If you want somewhere to start with Mishima I'd recommend 'The Temple of the Golden Pavilion', 'The Sound of Waves' or 'The Sailor Who Fell from Grace with the Sea'. His short story Patriotism is also a must-read, it was the first thing I read from him and it was a 10/10. You could probably also start with Spring Snow, the first book of the tetralogy, I read it pretty early and I don't think I suffered for it. Just don't read Runaway Horses as a standalone book. It's fantastic but you'd be selling yourself short if you read out of place. For Nietzsche see basically see the chart I attached. Ignore the optional stuff. Twilight of the Idols is a good starting spot, as well as is The Birth of Tragedy. After that you can probably do Beyond Good and Evil, The Genealogy of Morality, Antichrist, etc. I think Nietzsche can be super annoying to read even as someone who reads literally everyday. There's usually gay untranslatable word-puns, obscure references to stuff that footnotes usually indicate, lots of breaks with dashes, trailing off 'like this....' and the like. It's annoying but worth reading. All of this might have been kind of vague, maybe I can clear some things up in follow-up posts. I'm also not sure what language you'll be reading in so I can't give any specific publishers or editions or anything
>>3155 He only called it a beautiful language. In spoken word it is quite nice - one of the only non-European tongues I can stand to listen to. I personally like the way it's written and read. What do you mean by "tacked on?"
Does anyone have a pdf of Imperium?
>>3547 This looks like a good edition of it. I’d post the PDF directly but I’m phonefagging right now: https://archive.org/details/Imperium_182/mode/2up
Some time ago, I downloaded some anon's novel from here (I think) - I don't remember the title, but it involved a fantasy kingdom and had weak, bookish character get his life ruined & set up for a revenge plotline right at the end - does anyone here have it? I apologize if this is the wrong thread, or even the wrong board, but I didn't see a "fiction" thread up.
>>4262 Do you remember what site this was on? /fascist/ has bounced around a lot recently, but the only established and stable locations were Julay and here after 8chan went down. Maybe you'll find something in the Julay reading thread: https://julay.world/fascist/res/5.html There was a fiction thread on Julay/fascist/ but it didn't have anything like what you're talking about, only four posts.
>>4262 I think I know what you mean. It had a title like Damnation and had an aging king, the king’s sons one a bookworm, one an asshole, with some political stuff as things felt like they were in a decline from their version of a roman golden era.
Repost from end/pol/ Does anyone have an English pdf of "World Jewry" by Dieter Schwarz? He was the SS officer who wrote the pamphlet on Freemasonry. Unless I'm blind the English translator doesn't seem to be listed in that book.
>>4369 That was the one, thank you.
>>4450 It was an interesting read, not a very happy ending though.
The 88 Precepts by David Lane
>>5344 Coincidentally i just finished reading that on Archive.org.
>>5506 Funny how that happens. Good to see more people are reading them though, I honestly think they're very important, especially on the topic of religion and the Laws of Nature.
>>5507 Thanks for the download anyway, I think i'll add A translation of a small bit of Karlheinz Deschners Criminal History in a Nat Soc perspective by Cesar Tort in return
>>5595 This looks right up my alley, thanks, anon. The Christian Question is an aspect of the larger JQ that is of fundamental importance as uncomfortable as it may be to point out to some. I notice it says volume one, is there more volumes of this available right now?
>>5597 No, not in english, if you don't know German Italian Spanish or I think French you won't find this easily,I (((wonder))) why it was never translated to english, it's a Ten volume work in German by a liberal German this was a side project by a White Mexican Natsoc.
>>5599 Ten volumes? Wow that is impressive. Well, it is good to even get parts of such a massive work in English.
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>>824 >(1) Mein Kampf (Stalag) by Adolf Hitler You might like to know that this is not an altogether accurate translation. It contains rather elementary errors that change the meaning of the text. For example, here's a bit from the first chapter of the German original: >Er kaufte in der Nähe des oberösterreichischen Marktfleckens Lambach ein Gut, bewirtschaftete es und kehrte so im Kreislauf eines langen, arbeitsreichen Lebens wieder zum Ursprung seiner Väter zurück. Translated: >He bought an estate near the Upper Austrian market town of Lambach, managed it and thus returned to the origin of his fathers in the cycle of a long, busy life. Now for what the STALAG edition contains: >On the outskirts of the small market-town of Lambach in Upper Austria he bought a farm and tilled it himself. Thus, at the end of a long and hard-working career, he returned to the life which his father had led. As you can see "fathers" (ancestors) has been translated to "father" dad. Now for the 1941 Reynal & Hitchcock version: >He bought a farm near Lambach in Upper Austria which he worked himself, thus returning, after a long and active life, to the origin of his ancestors. This, R&H, version was creation by a whole team of translators/researchers in the 1940's, whereas the STALAG edition was translated by two men at different points in time. Now for some comedy. The Michael Ford and Thomas Dalton translations draw both from the STALAG edition AS WELL as the Reynal & Hitchcock edition, which is obvious from the fact that both of their "translations" contain the exact same mistranslations present in the STALAG edition, as well as containing shortened versions of the running historical background commentary in the Reynal & Hitchcock translation. If you wanna read Mein Kampf for real learn German. >>4418 That's a jewish translation with commentary. Use the Arthur Kemp version.
Some minor tweaks were made to the OP. I added a Savitri Devi section and a part on secondary literature. A few new authors like Jorian Jenks were added in as well. I added Table Talk to the National Socialism section as well with the following justification - >>5705
>>5847 That's a pretty weak justification. The argument against the Table Talks isn't that it's a hit piece or fake, it's that it consists of remembered material written down the next day by multiple people who disagree about what was said and by who. And that's before you even get to the English version which is based on the French translation by Genoud, which was proven to be a deliberate mistranslation. The Table Talks are shit for determining Hitler's views. They DO represent the views of some people around Hitler, so there's value in that, but unless you're reading the original German, you're not even getting that much. As far as Irving's approval counting as a valid heuristic, Irving also believes in the extermination of 6 million jews for which a mass grave has never been produced. He even refers to "gas vans" in "Hitler's War". CODOH has plenty say on Irving's fallacious claims. He is wrong about a lot of things and he's wrong about the table talks. Why he trusts Martin Bormann, a man who was, by Irving's own judgement, a suck-up to power for his own ends is confusing. He even documents Hitler reversing of Bormann's closure of a convent, and calling Bormann "pigheaded". This is all in Hitler's War", as is the claim by one of Hitler's doctors (Hasselbach) that Hitler paid Catholic church dues "to the very end". Odd thing for an anti-Christian to do. I'm not Christian my myself, but there's no reason to believe Hitler was particularly vehement against Christianity (One of his biggest inspirations were the Christian Socialists), making the table talks even less valid.
>>5859 >I'm not Christian my myself, but there's no reason to believe Hitler was particularly vehement against Christianity Massive cope, especially given the fact that Table Talk is not the sole source for Hitler’s opposition to Christkikery. Christina Schroeder (Secretary of Hitler) >“He had no kind of tie to the church. He considered the Christian religion an outdated, hypocritical and human-ensnaring institution. His religion was the laws of nature.” Goebbels: >"The Führer is deeply religious, though completely anti-Christian. He views Christianity as a symptom of decay."
>>5860 Not at all a cope if I'm NOT Christian, correct? I'm inclined to believe Schroeder more than Goebbels. Goebbels was caught multiple times in Irving's own book on the man committing outright lies. Geobbels frequently claimed Hitler's enthusiasm for various things matched his own, but Hitler's actions and words do not portray the same image. You wanna talk about massive cope...
>>5861 So first you attempt to discredit Irving and now you cite him to undermine what Goebbels wrote in his own diary? Hitler’s anti-Christianity is beyond dispute. August Kubizek says the following in reference to Hitler’s Vienna years: >“For the entire period that I knew Adolf Hitler, I do not think he ever attended mass. He knew that I went every Sunday with my parents. He did not try to dissuade me, but said occasionally that he could not understand it of me. [...] one day he came to me in great excitement and showed me a book about the Church witch-hunts, on another occasion one about the Inquisition, but despite his outrage over the events described in these books he avoided making a political statement on the matter. Perhaps he thought I was not the right public for him.” >“He could not imagine for himself a finer existence than that lived by these radiant heroes of early German history. He identified himself with the great men of this vanished epoch. Nothing appeared more worthy of the struggle than a life like theirs, full of brave acts of great consequence, the most heroic life possible, and from there to enter Valhalla and so become an immortal of myth, joining those already present whom he so venerated. This strange, romantic perspective of Hitler’s thinking should not be overlooked. In a world of harsh political reality, the tendency will be to reject these youthful musings as fantasies, but the fact remains, despite everything at this time of his life, that Adolf Hitler’s personality dwelt only in the truly pious beliefs to which the German heroic sagas had introduced him.” Otto Dietrich in his memoir said that Hitler "Talked of providence but "personally was sharply hostile to Christianity and the churches" (154) and that Hitler “was convinced that Christianity was outmoded and dying. He thought he could speed its death by systematic education of German youth. Christianity would be replaced, he thought, by a new heroic, racial ideal of God" (156).
>>5862 >discredit Irving I never did, it's just that some people newly awakened to the truth of WW2 defer to him completely. Would you like to defend his version of the holocaust? I'll pay attention when you produce the bodies. Irving is great, but not infallible. >now you cite him to undermine what Goebbels wrote in his own diary? Which is it, do you value Irving's work or not? You're taking this way too personally and crediting me with malicious intent to cope with being challenged. Read "Gobbels: Mastermind of the Third Reich", it's a great book. I never disputed that Hitler had his own plans for the religious path of the German people, btw. I only said that his vehemence is overstated based on the evidence.
>>5862 Is Hitler is not anti Christian he had Christians in the state, and if I'm correct he also shat on paganism praising Charlemagne in his dairy. I don't know why you niggers are trying to act like NS was an ebin anti Christian when the NS literally increased the number of the church attendances in Germany.
>>5975 From what I have read, heard from other anons on /fascist/ and read myself, Hitler seems very anti christian but very Pro Jesus Christ. It's an interesting take on the matter but not at all unique. I believe Dante Alighierithe author of the divine comedy held similar views to that. Dante had a serious problem with churches for a lot of the shit they pulled and the greed that was within them. Hitler seemed to admire Jesus Christ because he stood up to the Jews and because Hitler also believed that Jesus Christ was Aryan. I think he's right about the churches as if we look at the modern day pope he supports unfiltered immigration into western countries and demands that all Catholics, especially those that are White, bow down to those said invaders. On the topic of Jesus being Aryan, it doesn't really matter to me. I just admire him for standing up to the kikes, much like Hitler. On the subject of religion, I would actually advise anyone here of any religion to go out and enjoy nature. That's where I personally find my closest connection to God.
>>5980 >From what I have read, heard from other anons on /fascist/ and read myself, Hitler seems very anti christian but very Pro Jesus Christ. whoops i meant <From what I have read and heard from other anons on /fascist/, Hitler seems very anti christian but very Pro Jesus Christ.
>>5975 You seem to be under the delusion that being anti-Christian necessarily means pro-pagan. Hitler was anti-Christianity, that doesn't mean he wanted to LARP in the woods in a viking helmet and kill anyone who was a Christian.
>>6008 >You seem to be under the delusion that being anti-Christian necessarily means pro-pagan. Except most of the people claiming Hitler is anti-Christian are pagans. Whether you're pro pagan or not claiming that Hitler is vague and untruthful. I've legit seen morons claiming he was an Islamist, pagan, or even a satanist. >Hitler was anti-Christianity, that doesn't mean he wanted to LARP in the woods in a viking helmet and kill anyone who was a Christian. And what decisive proof do you have that he was indeed anti-christian?
>>1319 >>3291 Do you have anything on art or how to draw aesthetically?
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>>6018 >And what decisive proof do you have that he was indeed anti-christian? Otto Dietrich's 'The Hitler I Knew', Goebbels' diaries, Christa Schroeder's 'He Was My Chief', Table Talk, the fact that Hitler paid multiple visits to the Nietzsche Archive in Weimar and even provided funding for it from his own personal funds, the fact that he surrounded himself with anti-Christians such as Bormann, Rosenberg, Himmler, etc. Falling into pagan versus Christian is yet another false dichotomy. Hitler was a very religious man, but as all attest, he was no Christian, his religion was the eternal Laws of Nature. Many, many times in Mein Kampf, Nature is personified, giving a sort of pantheistic conception of God, but not a Jewish/Christian God
>>6021 I can't trust table talks at all because it vague as hell, but Hitler surrounding himself with anti-christians and taking inspirations from them as well doesn't mean he's anti-christian at all. I'm a pagan myself and even I read books and have agreements with Christians on things when it comes to politics and monarchism in ways, but does that make me a Christian? I recommend you read books from historians like Deschner, God and the Fascists: or Stingl, Gott segne den Führer they specifically talk about how Hitler and how the catholic church worked together and how catholics in Germany helped him get into power. At best I believe that HItler only wanted freedom of religion for anyone who was pro-German or European at least, because the last thing the NS needs is a bunch of zealots ruining everything because they can't get along to fight against a greater threat known as international jewry.
>>6027 It doesn't matter what Hitler did or didn't do on the Abrahamic Question, he was not infallible. The fact is that, if it weren't for Christians, jews would most likely not be in existence now, and if they were, they would be nowhere near, as entrenched, and powerful as they are. Christianity destroyed our natural kinship, and love for our race, and has encouraged egalitarianism and miscegenation from it's very beginning. That Aryans twisted it to not encourage those things, and kept scriptures away from the lemmings, so as to control them and limit the effects of the doctrine, is not in doubt, and Christians use this fact to say we can return to our Christian "roots". The far more logical and correct thing to do, is to let go of the mind-virus, and destroy every fucking thing there is that can revive it, so that it will never poison or weaken us again. Then we need to let something else, something far better, and not sourced to jews, take it's place. Whether that is Volkisch Wotanism, or Cosmotheism, or the Vedic Aryan religion, or any of our other still existing pre-Christian teachings and religions, doesn't matter. What does matter, is that we repudiate and invert, in every way we can, the values that Christianity has instilled, that were not copied wholesale from our prior beliefs. If you claim to be National Socialist, you must be anti-christian and you must seek to destroy it in all it's forms, I hope myself that this can be done peacefully but I am beginning to suspect that it is no longer possible to do so.
>>6027 >the last thing the NS needs is a bunch of zealots ruining everything because they can't get along to fight against a greater threat known as international jewry. Christianity is ultimately contingent on the greater JQ and the related phenomenon of Abrahamism. It’s something that needs to be addressed. That doesn’t necessarily mean we run around yelling “KIKE ON A STICK” and actively being as off-putting as possible, but the Abrahamic nature of Christianity can’t be overlooked. It’s possible that the core of Christianity could be de-Abrahamized. The guy between DharmaNation, Śri Dharma Pravartaka Acharya seems to believe that the original teachings of Jesus were anti-Abrahamic to their core, but were subverted by Jewish fanatics like (((Saul of Tarsus))). If (emphasis on ‘if’) this is possible, it should be promoted to a limited extent, but honestly even if we admit that, the core teachings of Christianity amount to a life-denying, otherworldly form of slave morality. A path preached by a “Man Above Time”. Even IF it wasn’t Jewish fundamentally, this is a major mark against it. This poster >>6032 is basically right. Something else will need to take its place if we are to flourish and survive. It’s interesting to note that just today I was reading an excerpt from Schopenhauer (who died in 1860) saying that Christianity was dying. Nietzsche said the same thing later on. Looking at church attendance rates and the behavior of self-professed Christians, it IS dying. It’s a corpse of a religion and it’s not just dying, it’s dragging our race down with it. We can’t just leave a void though, people need some larger purpose. I wouldn’t push anyone from their comfort, but if it leads to racial suicide they deserve a rude awakening and at least pointed towards, at absolute minimum, a healthier form of this slave moralizing cult
>>6045 I've read enough to think it unlikely Jesus existed and if he did he was so unremarkable that the Romans didn't bother recording his execution. In the first case, Saul invented the whole religion meaning none of it is anti-Abrahamic in any way, save for that which he plagiarized from Rome, and this is the most likely eventuality.in the second case The entire religion is based on the Torah and was Jewish from the outset regardless of Jesus's disagreements with the Talmud and the "Pharisee" cult, then Saul came along later and improved and perfected his subversive doctrine to point it against the goyim/pagans. Either way there is no possibility in this world in which Christianity is not Jewish, and it isn't worth keeping around in any form.
>>6057 I tend to think that Jesus existed, but I wouldn't be able to offer many theories on how he actually was as a person. It's possible that he was half-Aryan given the theories from several sources on him having a Roman father, but it's sadly impossible to know what he did say and what he didn't say. I view him as no more than a wise man or sage like Apollonius of Tyana. His teachings might be good for certain ascetics, but certainly not as a foundation for an entire society. Most of his teachings would be very harmful for our people if they were to become normalized (and many of them have). His teachings are antithetical to the Natural Order, which is founded on the affirmation of this world, strength and power. Regardless, he sure made the Jews absolutely buttmad for a while there if the gospels are to be believed, but it's very possible that Nietzsche was correct and even this is feigned so as to make the goyim take the bait. Cosmotheism is our best bet.
Christianity is Levantine and Abrahamic in character. it has its positive qualities, and it's deeply entrenched in the West, but ultimately it's foreign to us. if we're to have a Volkish religion, it will have to be a different tradition. with that said, I think Christianity is here to stay, so even in the best case scenario, it will have to be contained and negotiated with rather than outright extirpated. in many ways, Christianity was a backlash against the degeneration of the Hebrew religion, which was already well underway by the 1st century AD. the original Hebrews, while Abrahamic, had many based qualities, which is why everyone from White nationalists to black nat'lists have tried to claim that heritage. but their descendants the Pharisees were of a dramatically different, inferior character. since the Hebrews were always concerned with the primacy of Law, its degenerate form became litigious and hypocritical, concerned with the letter of the law and not its spirit; an attitude which is all too familiar today. Christianity was a reassertion of the spirit of the Law. while that was a great achievement, it's still characterized by egalitarianism, slave morality, and life denial, as others have said. modern Judaism is a direct descendant of the Pharisees and the Talmud, NOT the Old Testament, which explains alot. Christianity evolved from Hebrew roots, so it represents a definite break from Pharisaic ways, but it still carries the baggage of Abrahamism.
>>6159 >the original Hebrews, while Abrahamic, had many based qualities, which is why everyone from White nationalists to black nat'lists have tried to claim that heritage It's hard not to appreciate some aspects of the Old Testament. This is controversial to say, I know, but it is a fine framework for racial preservation and supremacy. The Old Testament is life-affirmative, realistic and optimistic. Yahweh is even had to say of the world in Genesis "Behold, it was very good" (Genesis 1:31). But in the New Testament, the Devil himself is called the "Prince of this world" (John 12:31), quite a far cry from the "very good" character of Yahweh's creation in Genesis, unless we are to identify the two in some sort of Marcion-esque interpretation. There is a general softening as well, lex talionis becomes the command to love one's enemy, eternal life is promised, reconciliation and love is praised, etc. The fundamental character of Judaism is conducive to racial survival and an affirmation of this world. This is why so many have rightfully identified it as more of a vehicle for Jewish survival than a religion as such.
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Hey, BO, Someone in the /sig/ thread is talking about HRT and becoming a woman. I also believe it is the same person who is posting with the Synarchist flag. I you are asking me, they are trying to make Synarchist anon look bad by posting as him. More importantly, Snyarchist anon has posted in that thread previously and I have never seen him use TOR. I find this extremely (((coincidental))) that at the same time this has happened another anon is proposing to ban all non White posters. I am at a point to where I believe that integralist RPer, Ethnoglobe winer, and now these people are a part of a group or the same individual. Their intentions are to divide all /fascist/ and insure they cannot work together. The reason why I am posting here is because I could not report it for some reason. I don't know why, it kept telling me I was getting the captcha wrong. Image related.
>>6680 I apologize for posting with numerous grammar errors. I was panicking when I was post. I need to calm down.
>>6680 Thanks for letting me know. Strange that you were unable to report, but captchas are gay sometimes. There’s definitely some fuckery going on. I said it in the first unpopular opinions too, but notice how out of the blue all of this sodomy shilling came out of nowhere in multiple threads, along with the tranny-posting. I have no doubt in my mind that there is someone / a few people who are out to fuck with the board and make us look as bad as possible. I might have some peculiar moderation choices and behaviors, and I might not be the most competent at times, but I’ve been getting progressively more suspicious. I might look for a vol soon, but I have to be extremely careful to who I give it to given the fact that there is this problem and I want someone who shares the same general outlook I have moderation-wise.
>>6682 Of course, I'm glad to provide assistance. I'm thankful you don't agree with banning all non-White posters. It's obvious it's a D&C tactic to cause infighting among fascist. On the subject of that, I actually meant to post this in meta thread but like I said, I was panicking. I assumed we were being DDoS'd because i was unable to report. Another thing, do you think these shills fear an alliance between White and non-White fascists?
>>6685 >Another thing, do you think these shills fear an alliance between White and non-White fascists? I think it comes from two sources. First, we obviously have the shills who just want to find points of contention within a board and apply pressure to these apparent weak-spots. Classic D&C. The second source of this, I think, comes from (newer) posters who seem to fail to understand why exactly I made this board. As it says in the meta thread — “/fascist/ is a board for discussion of fascism in its various manifestations and, in a more general sense, third-position ideology”. We’re not /pol/, so I have different standards in who I want posting here. I *do* enjoy talking to WNs more than other posters since I relate to them more, and since I am a National Socialist, but fascism in a broad sense and related things has always been the main topic of this board and will continue to be so irregardless of complaints. It would be completely different if I were running an organization in real life. One inspiration for making this board was Cultured Thug’s channel. I enjoy how he covers books and ideas from diverse origins, and many obscure fascist and third position ideologies. That’s sort of what this board is supposed to be. I think most people understand that mostly
Does anyone have a readable version of Mishima's commentary on the hakagure? This is one of my favorites by him but the libgen version is practically unreadable on my kobo.
I'm not one of the shills, just an overboardfag. I have been putting effortposts into unpopular thread debates if I see something I think is irrational or mistaken, but otherwise not a poster here. It's clear there's a problem user or two. BO has spotted some, you;ve noticed some false flagging. There's also some trollposts on other boards now (see: /meta/) so someone is clearly trying to start shit, and either they're faking reactions here or they're getting reactions. I suspect the majority of politics posters on IBs are post-2015fags who don't know how to handle drama and trolling well, which doesn't help. My abridged, subjective summary of the situation is here. Of course, it's a single perspective, but it may help those who only use this board and suddenly see drama and go overboard on defense (a natural reaction, same thing happened with the zchan spam saga). https://anon.cafe/meta/res/18.html#13539 >>6685 >Another thing, do you think these shills fear an alliance between White and non-White fascists? I think it's fair to say White supremacy is far too prevalent for that to be a rational fear.
>>6784 I’ve came across two versions online. One has over 500 pages and is basically unreadable on every device I’ve used, and the second is an actual scan of the book. The latter is the best version available that I’m aware of. A PDF can be found in the Japan thread >>6728
>>6796 Thanks fren. Legit considering dropping the hundo this shit costs on amazon to get a physical copy and make an actual legit digital copy for people. His thoughts are so applicable to the world we live in today. Someday, with threads like these, the world will gain the spirit back that it lost after WWII.
>>6802 No problem, fren, glad to help. It would be great if you or someone else at some point were to actually put together a good digitial copy of this book. It’s honestly a fucking shame that with Mishima’s books that aren’t novels (like his book on the Hagakure or Sun and Steel) that they are so difficult to find and almost impossible to get a physical copy without giving up an arm and a leg. I want to know why there are no reprints, perhaps it is because of what you say in the second paragraph.
Does anyone have any books on National Synarchism?
>>6810 The best I can suggest to you is a paper titled "Fascism and Sinarquismo: Popular Nationalisms Against the Mexican Revolution" by Albert L. Michaels. It's not a book of course, but with material on Synarchism being so rare in English this is one of the only things I've come across. The JSTOR link should of course be accessible through the sci-hub.tw site listed at the bottom of the OP https://www.jstor.org/stable/23913319
>>6812 Thanks anon. It was a nice read.
Is Malcom X's book worth buying in hardback? I've never read it but the White liberal quote has me curious. I think we can learn a lot from what he had to say. Rockwell and Malcom X agreed on many subjects and both were killed by their Government for their opinions. Any other books worth picking up? I prefer hardbacks when possible. I just finished Ted's latest book and I'm hungry for more of the same.
>>7196 > I just finished Ted's latest book and I'm hungry for more of the same. When you say you've read his latest book, do you mean 'Anti-Tech Revolution: Why and How?' or do you mean the newest edition of 'Technological Slavery' that came out earlier this year? I originally assumed you meant the former, so if you have not read the latter, it's worth checking out for a lot of his older essays and letters that deal with a whole range of topics. It's nice to have a physical form of some of his essays like the one dealing with Anarcho-Primitivism or the System's Greatest Trick. When it comes to similar books not by Ted, there are a couple of options out there that are really good. Ellul's writings are one example. The three he's most famous for are 'The Technological Society', 'Propaganda' and 'The Political Illusion'. I've only read the first two, and they are definitely worth reading. He's sometimes a bit dense, but I found with 'The Technological Society' that once you get used to his style and power through for a bit you can get into a rhythm and read it pretty easily. I think his stuff would benefit from rereading too. 'The Technological Society' is basically ISAIF if it was 400 pages long and much broader in stroke. Ellul doesn't say that we need to abolish tech, but he offers a pretty damning critique. Oswald Spengler's 'Man and Technics' is pretty short, but also very good. This was written in the 1930s and he predicts mass extinctions, deforestation, the loss of White political and economic dominance due to the spread of technology to non-Whites and the collapse of our civilization in time. Very prophetic. Concerning your main question, I haven't read that book by Malcolm X that you mention. I did read a one point a book by Huey P. Newton, one of the founders of the Black Panthers called "Revolutionary Suicide" at one point though and thought that it was pretty interesting.
>>1319 >>3291 Can you give a compilation of all the PDFs on these charts except for Nitschze? >>5860 >Cope Anyone who uses cuckchan lingo should be instantly banned from here. >>6020 Seconding this, I would like to read or have some instructions about how to draw art on par with the Romans, Greeks, Japs, etc and beauty.
>>7221 >japanese I really like Ukiyo-e, got a bunch of them around.
>>7332 Post em my nigger
>>7336 I need to get most of them re-framed first. I bought like 15 from around the beginning of the 19th century at an auction (wasn't too expensive). Most of them are the standard "beautiful girls do x" (not that it's a bad thing), but I do have a few with birds and fishermen on them that are really nice.
>>7379 Sorry, beginning of the 20th century*
>>7379 It seems that an appreciation of "cute girls doing cute things" is ingrained in the Japanese spirit
Where are you guys buying books? Amazon purged everything good and I don't want to give them money anyway.
>>7756 I used to just do Amazon. Back a year or two ago one was able to get pretty much everything good from there. I've used Barnes & Noble to get some stuff. They're of course a big corporation themselves, but last year I was able to get a lot of books from them that Amazon had purged by that point, such as the Culture of Critique, The Track of the Jew Through the Ages, The Talmud Unmasked and the Jews and Modern Capitalism. I've also been thinking of trying to buy shit directly from Counter Currents. I already own some of their stuff like their unabridged edition of the Lightning and the Sun but I've never tried to order from them yet.
I found a Julius Evola reading flowchart but since I only have the books on Fascism (A Traditionalist Confronts Fascism, Fascism Viewed From The Right) Notes On The Third Reich, Metaphysics Of War, Ride The Tiger and Revolt Against The Modern World, where should I start with those? since I have a limited selection?
>>7756 not "everything good" mind you. I still order from them from time to time but if I want wrongthink, I usually head over to archive.org for the real nitty gritty stuff.
>>8159 I've heard a few times on /lit/ that one should not start with the big name Evola books like Revolt or Ride the Tiger. Anecdotally I think this is true. The first Evola book I tried to read was Revolt, and I was unable to finish it. I am a big reader too, I just felt bogged down and bored, so I tried to read Metaphysics of War and was able to read it fairly easily. MoW would probably be my recommendation for a starting point. He had some good insights on the two types of war - the greater war and the lesser war. The lesser war is the physical combat, the greater war is the battle against the enemy within, a drive towards ascesis and self-mastery. He links it jihad and talks a lot here and there about the Bhagavad Gita, so I found it enjoyable. Fascism Viewed From the Right was readable as well, so you could probably read that fairly soon as well. I haven't read tons of Evola so I can only go off what I know
Don't know if this is the right thread, just wanted to leave here a link where you can find an archive with speeches, essays, posters and other materials from National Socialist Germany and East Germany https://research.calvin.edu/german-propaganda-archive/index.htm
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>>8255 That's a good site, I downloaded many of my NatSoc images from that site. Would recommend. The guy who maintains that page has a decent book on some important speeches of National Socialism too that I own.
>>8928 Too pro-christianity, discarded.
>>8982 He was more on point than off, Christianity aside.
>>8983 One is never "on point" so long as they subscribe to christian ethics or values in any form, his analysis of the Jewish Problem is utterly eclipsed by his ignorance of the Christian Problem which encompasses the Jewish Problem, without them there would be no Jewish Problem today, they would all be dead, though the Romans would have disappeared anyway.
>>8982 this boards cult-like obsession with Christ as enemy says more about the board than the man himself, in flesh.
>>8992 Virtue ethics are Aristotlean. St. Thomas Aquinas continued that tradition. come again?
>>8992 The way I see it, his Christianity doesn’t really matter. He saw almost all of the same problems that we do (JQ, White genocide, etc) and even despite his ignorance of the Christian problem, he did not refrain from doing what he thought had to be done. It was a quite un-Christian attack. There was no “loving your enemy” or “do not resist evil” in his deeds
>>9000 The ethics of Christianity, are not Aristotle's Virtue ethics, the ethics of Christianity are sourced to the Jewish men who wrote the the Gospels, mainly Mark and Paul. Virtue ethics were warped into something Christian and were a pragmatic choice that the men who ran the church decided to allow, to allow them the power and influence and status they desired, and to provide a way to make Christianity workable, which in it's original form was not and still is not. Using something completely unchristian to do so, warping it, even though the source was a Pagan man, is essentially a Pagan thing to do, which is why there is still so much false attraction to Aquinas traitor though he was. Never forget that they were later discarded almost entirely, once Martin Luther prevented the death of the church, through the renaissance and election of Cesare Borgia to the papacy. the Catholic church was almost dead and Christianity with it, but thanks to Luther ever since that day, we have had communist revolutions using Christianity and Jesus and the ethics of the bible and specifically the New Testament as their inspiration. This includess Karl Marx, whose main inspirations were the earlier and still quite recent in his time, Christian commies. and before you bring up Plato his Communistic ideas were placed on a three tiered caste system, something Marx didn't use nor dare to use, as he was a jew. We are not obsessed with christianity, we are however obsessed with saving the Aryan Race, something with which Christianity is absolutely NOT compatible, and even Hitler correctly Identified this. He had no choice but to be nice to them. We, now, in the extremely desperate time for our race that it is, have no choice but to oppose them openly and brazenly, no matter who it offends, because they are the greater problem, they are the reason Jews are so powerful, Gods damn them, they're the reason jews still exist and have so much influence specifically because "SALVATION COMES FROM THE JEWS". >>9003 I disagree, he targeted a synagogue of jews, none of whom are connected to, or implicated in the overarching power structure that serves them and cooperates with them. What he did, was flawed, in that he attacked a symptom and not the power structure, I commend his killing of jews but his reasons for doing so and utter blindness to the real problem make him seem foolish in retrospect.
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>>9038 >he targeted a synagogue of jews, none of whom are connected to, or implicated in the overarching power structure that serves them and cooperates with them What do you think of Bowers? He targeted Poway due to the fact that the synagogue had recently participated in some HIAS-related event. With Jews it's much more likely that you'll hit something related to at least the local power structure. Earnest was too rash and should have spent a bit more time planning and prepping. I definitely want to see bigger Jews get what's coming for once though. I like Bowers personally, but if it's not some globalist kike the Jewish machine is only scratched
>>9047 He killed jews and said little about it, how could I not respect that?
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>>8162 >The first Evola book I tried to read was Revolt, and I was unable to finish it. I am a big reader too, I just felt bogged down and bored, so I tried to read Metaphysics of War and was able to read it fairly easily. Revolt was technically my first Evola book as well. Well, I did try reading his book on the Holy Grail before that because of that one meme chart made by /lit/ but I couldn't finish that one, I don't get why they considered that a good starter. Anyway, I highly enjoyed reading Revolt and it was what led me to become interested in his other works and later delive into his less political and more esoteric works. So, I would actually recommend Revolt as a starter myself.
>>9259 I've come to think that /lit/ reading guides are made by people who have never even read half of the books on them. It's like this chart for Mishima >>1319, it doesn't make any sense. I don't even think Mishima needs a reading guide outside of knowing which order the tetralogy goes in
>>9315 Not to mention the three different greek ones which all concern themselves with different things. Much like how /v/ doesn't play vidya, I think /lit/ doesn't actually read much literature.
>March of the Titans: The Complete History of the White Race Has anyone read this, is it good?
>>10076 Will there ever be a /monarchia/? What is the reason for using that name?
>>10076 Some of the books here are shit, but the list is way more organized and sensible than >>9259 and there are some goods reads in here.
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I made one last edit.
>>10241 You've already got /monarchy/ here as a bunker, don't you? Would /monarchia/ be different in any way?
>>10242 The /monarchy/ on here is fucking dead and if it did it's probably just going to end up being like how the cathcucks and lolberts ruined /monarchy/ on 8moe.
>>10249 I was told that /monarchy/ here was a bunker, so I'm not too surprised that it does not have really any activity. On 8moe, I think much of the problem is due to the fact that a lolbert is / was running /monarchy/. It'd be cool if they moved here eventually and became more authentically monarchist.
>>8131 Thank you for this
/fascist/ should get its own reading list. But I wonder what books they would add. I'd give advice to anons who want to make their own.
>>10351 I'd probably take most of the reading list in the OP and supplement it with various other works and good secondary sources. The only thing I wonder about is what is the cut off for being Fascist. I feel like NatSoc stuff could get its get its whole own list if I really tried.
my written works
btw, read them in order, right to left
I finally found a good version of For my Legionaries by Corneliu Zelea Codreanu
>>10478 >I finally found a good version of For my Legionaries by Corneliu Zelea Codreanu I forgot to attach it, here it is.
>>10479 I can't seem to upload it. Here is a link instead. http://libgen.rs/book/index.php?md5=3733092C510A235944FAD56166B4E42C
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>>10478 >>10479 >>10480 I've been meaning to reread this at some point. I've read the version posted here >>1920 a while back. It will be interesting to see how exactly it compares in translation. For anyone who has not read For My Legionaries, READ IT - it is a fantastic book, and very powerful. The Iron Guard were the real deal.
>>10481 >I've been meaning to reread this at some point. I've read the version posted here >>1920 a while back. It will be interesting to see how exactly it compares in translation. It is the same translation but this one is a direct scan. The other one is an ocr of this one and the formatting is all fucked up.
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absolute classic
,>Herlihy – The Triumph of Monogamy >MacDonald – An Evolutionary Perspective on Human Fertility >Lagerlöf – Pacifying Monogamy: The Mystery Revisited >Alexander – The Biology of Moral Systems >Schiedel – Monogamy and polygyny in Greece, Rome, and world history >Betzig – Despotism and Differential Reproduction: A Darwinian View of History All of this is enough evidence to debunk any advocacy for polygamy in a non-clannish society.
This might not be /fascist/ related so please ignore+delete if it is not applicable. On 8ch, there was a pdf posted called "The Politically Incorrect Argument for the Legalization of All Drugs" I checked all the links (archive, mega, scribd) and it was scrubbed everywhere. Does anyone have this one?
Are there any books or stories that take more of a fascist or heroic viewpoint of things?
>>11479 For non-fiction I'd have to recommend 'For My Legionaries'. All throughout you can really feel a fascist spirit running through it that you just can't help but respect. I was very impressed at several moments by Codreanu's bravery, his integrity and many other facets of his personality and conduct. You really follow their struggles against Jewry and the Jew-controlled government through the book, and the end is likely to give one the feels with the final culmination of all the injustices made against Codreanu and his Iron Guard. For fiction, I'd have to recommend Yukio Mishima's 'Runaway Horses'. I love to recommend this book, but I always have to emphasize that this is not a standalone book, but rather the second book of four, and that there are many connections between the first and the second that, I think, would impoverish the full enjoyment of Runaway Horses without it. The book focuses on a young man is who extremely committed to his values, his dedication to Japan and the emperor, and his purity, living them out authentically. He allows no compromise with the degenerate Japan of the 1930s which was increasingly controlled by cliques of capitalists. Eventually he decides to take direct action against them. There are many fascist themes like the importance of action over thought in this book.
Anyone got that infographic with the different flavors of third positionism? I recall eco-fascism being one of them.
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>>10242 >>10251 >>10249 >>10078 >Will there ever be a /monarchia/? Yes, there is now. https://9chan.tw/monarchia/catalog >What is the reason for using that name? It is a good alternative name, plus I decided Dante instead of Ungern will be the /monarchia/ figurehead. I like Dante for his pro-monarchy talking points too. He wrote the book De Monarchia. /monarchia/ is also a name chosen to signify that it is a break from the tradition of /monarchy/. It is a new board and not the same as /monarchy/. Not looking to take away from or re-create /monarchy/. New board. New people. New world order. other than that Grace is still our board tan and we will probably have samefag anons. /monarchia/ will be my new homeboard.
>>11480 >For non-fiction I'd have to recommend 'For My Legionaries'. All throughout you can really feel a fascist spirit running through it that you just can't help but respect. I was very impressed at several moments by Codreanu's bravery, his integrity and many other facets of his personality and conduct. You really follow their struggles against Jewry and the Jew-controlled government through the book, and the end is likely to give one the feels with the final culmination of all the injustices made against Codreanu and his Iron Guard. I just finished reading For My Legionaries and your description is spot on. It is a beautiful book. I started to cry near the end. I highly recommenced it.
>>7215 >When you say you've read his latest book, do you mean 'Anti-Tech Revolution: Why and How?' or do you mean the newest edition of 'Technological Slavery' that came out earlier this year? Does anyone have a pdf of the new edition?
>>11657 Fuck, there's a new version of that book too? It looks like there's at least 30 more pages than the original too. >>11656 >I started to cry near the end. I really got the feels as well. I don't blame you, anon. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqfU_CeNBSE
Does anyone have a pdf of The Last Will of a Russian Fascist, it seems that it is very hard to find,
IronMarch: Next Leap PDF >>11663 I've seen someone ask for that before, I think. I've never been able to find it either, unfortunately. Just looked again too.
>>9047 >>11663 I found somewhere on telegram that is working on translating that into english, will post it if i remeber and it comes out.
>>11657 I'm wondering about this as well with both the 2019 edition of Technological Slavery and the 2020 edition of Anti-Tech Revolution. All I want to see is the additional content put into both of the new editions. Nothing more is necessary because the earlier editions are freely available online. "Eight new appendices have been added that provide justification, clarification, or amplification of arguments that appear in the main text. Appendices Three and Five improve upon Afterthoughts 4 and 3, respectively, of the second edition of Technological Slavery. In addition to the foregoing materials, the present volume includes the long and previously unpublished “Letter to Dr. P.B. on the Motivations of Scientists.” With Anti-Tech Revolution, there were two new appendices added at the end.
something that might interest some of you. mentions Carl Schmitt and Charles Maurras
“Comparative Religions & The Wildest Stories Ever Told“ by Ben Klassen. He compares various religions with Creativity and shows why they are all lacking. Not the most rigorous book, but it’s interesting. https://archive.org/details/ComparativeReligionsTheWildestStoriesEverTold/mode/2up
Anyone have Miguel Serrano's stuff in Spanish?
>>13882 I just looked for you on archive.org and it seems like I was able to find it in every language but Spanish weirdly enough
>>13883 Yeah, I did the same thing, it's really strange. That's why I'm asking here.
I found this on telegram, if it's too risky go ahead and delete it.
>>13885 why would it be risky
>>13890 Read it and find out.
>>13885 There are a couple of versions floating around. Looks like it's a text of some infamy. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Resistance_Manual You can find it on 8kun's /pdfs/ board, but it's shitty there too. The one you posted has severely messed up images and I am unable to find the zip file with the original. This is the best and most readable pdf that I could find.
>>13885 >risky More practical guides should be passed around. Philosophy and such is all well and good but more guides on applying it to real life is necessary so people have a chance to practice and prepare. It’s already rather late for that but it still helps.
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Hey back on old 8/pol/ there was like a monthly "book club" thing, maybe it fell out of taste because of it how 8ch ended up, but I was wondering if anyone had an archive or something of each month? I had a mega link bookmarked but it was removed for "promoting violent extremism" or some shit. I only have a picture of the first month's books. Thanks if you can help.
>>13928 When looking for it, I came across this book too. It's even larger and covered a couple more topics and in greater detail. Similar to the WRM. http://anonfiles.com/DfB4f4Ieo5/SS_Paladin_2019_latest_PDF Some might also find these books interesting.

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