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Film restoration/recovery Anonymous 09/01/2020 (Tue) 16:19:58 No.429 [Reply] [Last]
[JW08 ~ 08/27/2019] Recently started to dig up some "forgotten" films that need love in order to restore or redistribute them. Let me know if you want me to look up a specific film you're interested in, right now we just finished a second try restoration for Madness by Cesare Rau https://youtube.com/watch?v=PI_wY7EUU_M ...and next we want to move onto Cerco de Terror and Appuntamento a Dallas. (The first edition of Madness had a bit of color correction problems, it was too fucking dark at times) On 8chan someone requested Gillo Pontecorvo's La Grande Strada Azzurra, so we're currently working on that too.
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>>1856 Is it online?
>>1857 I downloaded a pirated version but haven't installed it yet
>>1856 I've used their photo programs and i find the old non-AI versions yield better results, at least the DeNoiser and Sharpener ones, the newer versions took down some comparison tools and streamlined the options to add a general AI slider. Many programs have been fucked in the butthole with this "AI" fad, they were already simple enough to use but with this new wave there's even less options, i fear the actual userbase is not as mentally sharp as i thought. In terms of the Video Enhance one, i've seen results for their 4k conversions/upscale and it leaves tons of artifacts like outlines and mushy texturing that looks like beauty filters, also a pervasive digital fine grain that looks odd in places like skin tones or foliage. Like everything it should be used with moderation, 60FPS doesn't look good with sources that were under 20FPS (like old timey reels) because the technique just multiples frames and makes variations with motion, so low FPS videos suddenly looks like heavily motion-blurred video game footage. The coloring aspect i didn't know, that does sound promising and the only one i can think of because that does save massive amounts of time.
>>1860 >it leaves tons of artifacts like outlines and mushy texturing that looks like beauty filters, also a pervasive digital fine grain that looks odd in places like skin tones or foliage. That's too bad. I haven't actually watched a full film that's been restored like this. I've only seen short clips and screencaps. The person who made Begotten for KG converted the Topaz video output to PNGs and then touched them up with Irfanview and Premiere. From the caps that project looks quite good considering the extremely grainy source, but I didn't actually watch it (and the bluray is supposedly in the works but who knows).
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>>1874 >converted the Topaz video output to PNGs and then touched them up with Irfanview and Premiere That's a double step, intensive but sounds good, he probably moved contrast to pull detail out of the shadows. I recall watching that movie many years ago back in the old, old place but i almost felt asleep, it is an artsy direction with the purposely high key grainy footage so in that case i don't think he had much trouble. >I haven't actually watched a full film that's been restored like this The Gay Porn Acting without the Porn community has some Topaz 4K conversions and few 8K scene upscales if you really want to see what a normal, standard upscale looks like. Here's screencaps comparing the same scene in the classic wholesome, totally non-gay and definitely not awkward dialogue sequence. Because these flicks had native speeds of 30FPS from the typical digital camcorders the 60FPS conversions are not that jarring, 24FPS can still cut it but in old timey sources that have FPS below the 18 count, like 16, 12 or even 8, the footage starts to look jarring. I haven't seen it but i guess if you apply motion blur the program will overwork and produce, i suppose at best, scenes akin to artsy 90s asian action sequences if original footage had considerable camera movement. Interpolation software and procedures have greatly advanced in recent years so that quality gap in low FPS footage can be somewhat narrow now if the original camera position was static, but we are still a bit far from decently upscaling low-resolution footage.

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essential religious /film/ Anonymous 07/20/2021 (Tue) 20:56:58 No.1664 [Reply]
What are some essential religious/spiritual /film/s? Doesn't have to be Christianity.
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The Russians have made quite a few nice films about Eastern Orthodoxy. You can watch "The Monk and the Demon" (2016) on YouTube, it poked fun at people in Jerusalem selling God for money, heh https://youtu.be/YzZ-aDFtZyU
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Az ember tragédiája/The Tragedy of Man is a fantastic film that I've never seen discussed. It's based on the 1861 play of the same name – regarded as one of the greatest works of Hungarian literature – and follows Adam, guided by Lucifer, as he journeys through history, from humanity's inception in the Garden of Eden till its wretched end. Although the film began production in 1988, it wasn't released until 2011. After the collapse of Hungary's communist government, director Marcell Jankovics had to finance each of the film's fifteen segments individually, some of which were screened at film festivals or on Hungarian TV over the years. In fact, the end product had to be re-dubbed since the original voice actors were too old by the time the animation was complete. Jankovics actually believed that the play was better suited to the animation medium rather than the stage, which I agree with. Animation really unfetters the story and leaves it free to express itself on a grander scale, with each historical period being represented by the artstyle of the time. For example, the segment that takes place in Ancient Greece takes the form of engraved pottery, whereas the far future segment is all bold lines and part-monochrome to reflect the sterile and mechanical world. My personal favourite is the cross-hatched style in the Prague scene – aesthetics aside, it also visually represents the restricted thinking of the era, in contrast to the clean, fluid animation of the following French Revolution, reverting back to cross-hatching when said revolution fails. The film begins with the creation of the universe and the Fall of Man soon after. Having been cast out of Paradise, a prideful Adam is determined to pursue personal glory. In response, Lucifer whisks him away to Ancient Egypt – where Adam the pharaoh, having built a magnificent pyramid, has realised his desires at the cost of countless slave lives. He then reasons that equality between men is the true road to happiness, and is transported to a democratic Greece in chaos. The rest of the film follows this formula, with each of Adam's dreams being exposed as futile, and Adam himself growing older and wearier with each ensuing cycle. Eve also appears in each cycle of Adam's journey, providing him with the hope to strive on for a better outcome. In this way, she is ultimately his downfall. The ending is what really sets "Az ember tragédiája" apart, IMO. God is unfathomable, his intentions impossible to comprehend. Whether he truly has an unknowable plan for mankind, or is simply a callous creator, is left up to the viewer. >Man, I have spoken: Struggle and have faith! <The end is death; life is a struggle. And man's end is the struggle itself. And so, Adam resigns humanity to pushing the boulder up the hill until the last man's cold, miserable death. Overall, I think it's a beautiful film and I'm thankful to have seen it. Apparently the director felt the same way as he was in his 70s by the time his movie was finally released, lol. I highly recommend you check this one out.
>>1687 I love it and became very interested in the original play after watching the epic animated film. There are a couple live-action adaptations too but It's hard to imagine anything surpassing the effort by Marcell Jankovics.
>>1673 I vaguely remember watching a Russian movie about Orthodox monks being held hostage by the Mongols. I think it was called 'the Horde' or something.
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>>1756 Indeed. 'Orda' in Russian, came out in 2012.

I made a movie about neeting and content addiction Anonymous 06/06/2021 (Sun) 23:08:06 No.1614 [Reply]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1k98QjeK0s I used to be a pretty big film buff but slowly ruined my ability to enjoy anything that was 'just good' by being insanely picky in what I would finish. If I were ever in a situation where I was with a girl and she wanted to watch a movie in bed I reckon I'd bottle it by shitting on the movie. How do you overcome disillusion?
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>>1614 OP this film is fucking amazing, it's just about a guy slowly losing himself on the internet. Extremely depressing and honest, I hope you haven't given up, the response seems pretty good, spam it on /tv/
>>1614 Reposting criticism from another board.
I don't think people mind shit talk as long as it's funny. So yea, just make sure you make her laugh if you do.
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>>1614 Since this thread proves this board is shit, I will now ask: What was the first "cold-hearted assassin trains qt 3.14 loli and grows attached" story? Gunslinger Girl and that one movie with Natalie Portman are the two that I remember off the top of my head, but what was the first? And to add to that, I guess there's also the "street urchin child gets put under the wing of a master criminal". For instance, in the earlier Total War games, your spy/assassin could get a child pickpocket ancillary.
>>1742 There's an Open Thread for random questions >what was the first The Kid (1921) has a version of this trope https://youtu.be/0wg7QjQztlk?t=1181

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Anonymous 04/25/2021 (Sun) 05:31:11 No.1521 [Reply]
We can all agree they're reddit right? Had two normalfags in class bring it up in their project, Part of me even wanted to step out of my comfort zone and go "Haha EPIC I too have seen films that are part of the Criterion Collection!" but thankfully didn't. In addition to the fact that towards the end of 2020 when they dropped a physical release bomb or something dozens of people made exposure videos that all got hundreds of thousands of views, we can all agree that as of 2020, they are officially Reddit right? Maybe in the 2010's they were obscure enough to be relegated to only cuckchan tier but now that normalfags jump up in excitement at the name, we can just confirm that it's reddit right?
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>>1530 >I can hate them for their reputation on butchering audio tracks though. I didn't know about this. Which releases?
>>1532 >I went long-winded there but what i wanted to say is that CC does pull things out of their hats from time to time, things that would be unknown or found in very shanty conditions but i know they do it to rub their personal or focus group ideologies rather than doing it to help the medium. Well you can't really expect them not to in current year, what really surprised me is that they're scared of Eastern Bloc and tankie films. You are wholeheartedly right though, there's a lot of similarities among Criterion films, you can arguably synthesize a whole new film out of just recutting the one's they have released, maybe even get them to distribute it for an extra layer of sweet irony.
>>1544 Perhaps "butcher" is a bit harsh, but they have a reputation for going too far with NR. Here's a blog with some good write-ups on different releases: https://blah-ray.blogspot.com/
>>1523 Is Cómo Agua bad? I was trying really hard to show it to my grand mother but she needs italian subs and i havent had thé time to make them
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>>1547 Not really bad but out of place in the original meaning of the catalogue (not so if Moonstruck is there too) it was a mainstream movie for the "let's take the missus to the cinema" audience based on a popular book in the style of romance/magic realism made by a woman about a family in a town she seems to have never visited or misunderstood a lot. Wrote this part last, wrote a lot again so TL;DR it's not real bad but its meta is controversial so your nonnina will probably not care much unless she expects some cream of the crop product that also touches upon odd topics. Strictly talking about this case the movie seems to have been restored due to being directed by a communist called Arau (who was a good comedian in its time) in association with a team chuck full of jews pushed back then by the mainstream, the most famous being Emmanuel Lubezki who had one of its uncles as the part of the jury who gave the movie a lot of national prizes. That's the reason i think the movie was a candidate, the politics are there along with being a heavily-prized movie forgotten in time by the viewers and even the continental scene (latin american i mean). For example 1974's Calzonzin Inspector, an older movie by Arau is a much more notorious example piece of cinema than Como Agua, mainly because it humorously touched on a strong topic in its days, the characters are kinda memorable, became an unexpected hit outside the country and wasn't in its home turf because the government shadow banned it due to showcasing rulers' numerous bad decisions as malicious rather than honest mistakes. It was shown briefly in cinemas then only found in bootlegs until 1989 and on TV after 2000's elections. Yet has been ignored by most studios for some reason or another, which leads me and some others to believe CC's decision to pick one over another as a proof they are in cahoots with the usual suspects. Sidestepping the topic, the book was greatly enjoyed by many but the "real" (as in not immigrant) people in the area in which the events of it happens somewhat loathed the book and the author book uses the protagonist's cooking savvy as themes and plot points yet many of the dishes and ingredients are foreign to Piedras Negras which is the town, situated in the northern desert areas yet it seems they are flooded with deep south ingredients and aztec dishes from Central America, much to the chagrin of the IRL local gastronomy circles. The town was picked mainly because of the plot point of being a Revolution War hotspot in which the author, a Mexico City resident in the south, wanted to touch upon often It was even a joke in a comedy show on how aggressive the natives could get back then, a tourist goes to the town and says loud "ah yes, mole sauce with turkey!" in which an old, seemingly-sweet lady replies "and F your mother too, cat-eater" ("y chin-chin a tu madresita, come-gatos"), plays a bit too with the city's catchphrase in recent era for being an immigrant hub: "Ya vayase" (Go away already). It's a classic case, once again, of culture shock/misunderstanding inside the same country, but oh well the people in that city have had worse: Some years ago the mayor (who wasn't a local either) built a replica mayan pyramid in a park. It would be interesting to see movies who moderately depict a place or area and ask the real natives if they liked it, in my personal experience it is a rare occurrence among national cases but it makes me wonder what other cases occur in Asia or Europe. I remember reading the Cretans loved Zorba but i have my suspicions towards that statement, also i recall an obscure case of a serbian movie, i think it was U Ime Naroda, who playfully mocked the mountain serbs (Montenegrins) yet in some reviews, written and on video, they claim they loved it to bits down to the accents.

Thoughts on the works of Sergei M. Eisenstein Anonymous 09/02/2020 (Wed) 20:15:27 No.656 [Reply]
[JW22 ~ 09/03/2019] >Sergei Mikhailovich Eisenstein was a Soviet film director and film theorist, a pioneer in the theory and practice of montage. The son of an affluent architect, Eisenstein attended the Institute of Civil Engineering in Petrograd as a young man. With the fall of the tsar in 1917, he worked as an engineer for the Red Army. In the following years, Eisenstein joined up with the Moscow Proletkult Theater as a set designer and then director. The Proletkult's director, Vsevolod Meyerhold, became a big influence on Eisenstein, introducing him to the concept of biomechanics, or conditioned spontaneity. Eisenstein furthered Meyerhold's theory with his own "montage of attractions"--a sequence of pictures whose total emotion effect is greater than the sum of its parts. He later theorized that this style of editing worked in a similar fashion to Marx's dialectic. Though Eisenstein wanted to make films for the common man, his intense use of symbolism and metaphor in what he called "intellectual montage" sometimes lost his audience. Though he made only seven films in his career, he and his theoretical writings demonstrated how film could move beyond its nineteenth-century predecessor--Victorian theatre-- to create abstract concepts with concrete images. Eisenstein's completed feature films include: Strike (1925) Battleship Potemkin (1925) October: Ten Days That Shook the World (1928) The General Line (1929) Alexander Nevsky (1938) Ivan the Terrible, Part I (1944) Ivan the Terrible, Part II (1945) Incompleted films: ¡Que viva México! (A version was completed, edited, and released in 1979 by Eisenstein's co-director Grigori Aleksandrov) Bezhin Meadow (lost, only exists as a slideshow now) Ivan the Terrible, Part III (what was completed was destroyed)

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>>1480 here: www.fedy-diary(.)ru/html/052012/16052012-03a(.)html and yes the english and german is from Eisenstein himself
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Is this board still alive? Anyway, I too love history, kabuki theatre, Mei Lanfang, Mikhail Kuznetsovs face, and cross dressing dudes So what are some other things he found interesting?
>>1491 I guess its still alive but if three years ago the unique visitors were in the hundreds, now its definitely in the tens
>>1493 time to shill again
>>1494 A dangerous game but might as well now that we are on the verge. Where do you plan on doing that? just curious not that i will belittle you or anything.

WWII - The German experience Anonymous 12/14/2020 (Mon) 03:05:57 No.989 [Reply]
Discussion of films/TVs about WWII from the German perspective. Allies movies with comical over-the-top natsee villains not welcome.
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>>991 In what films is this notable? Great Patriotic War films have their share of being Hollywood-tier while Germans always make theirs neutral and about the clean Wehrmacht. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7tEIYveBPQ
>>990 well, the NSDAP were liberators, not conquerors despite the lies we’ve been told by marxists. most russians on the eastern front welcomed the germans because they experienced decades of oppression at the hands of jewish bolsheviks; the same bolsheviks that raped and murdered the russian monarchy in 1910 and then installed communism. https://dailyarchives.org/index.php/history/2189-many-russians-hoped-that-hitler-would-free-them-from-stalin
>>992 >nazis this term is inaccurate and was created by a jewish man with the sole purpose of slandering the NSDAP >war crimes german leaders were tortured into giving false confessions and according to the procedural rules of the nuremburg trials, there was literally a rule (i forget which one exactly but it should not be too hard to find) that stated that “no evidence is required” for those precedings. you should be able to find it here: https://holocaustdeprogrammingcourse.com/ with a source included. those trials were literally kangaroo courts and the germans unironically did nothing wrong
Cross of Iron (1977) is alright, except for the annoyance that amerimutts are cast as Germans. Is there any blackwashing in this? For some reason a kike decided to write it.
You can witness pieces of the German WWII experience firsthand through Eva Braun's personal 8mm film reels, hosted by the National Archives. The reels contain some genuine moments of beauty with families vacationing at a mountain lake for example. It's interesting to see how real people lived in the past, and I can't think of an earlier collection of home movies of this quality. The historical/political aspect is not my primary focus, but the occasional presence of the Nazi inner circle keeps the viewing experience from getting too dull. https://catalog.archives.gov/id/43461 Comprehensive scene breakdown http://www.thirdreichruins.com/eva_movies.htm

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Thanks, I hate it. Anonymous 01/20/2021 (Wed) 18:33:10 No.1288 [Reply]
>Periodically attack the infinite backlog >Consult the spirits >They shit in my mouth For some reason, this was in the back of my mind as a highly rated movie to watch at some point. I read no review, no synopses, save maybe hearing it praised in passing some time around it's release. I got up to the part where the venal harlot begins openly cucking the soy-boy puppet man with his hippie retard pseudo-tranny gf and turned it off, because after being suckered in by the quirky aesthetic and the neat scene dressing like the tiny office, I found all the characters intensely detestable. Not even in a way that was pleasant to watch. Their personalities excite in me a deep gut-feeling of revulsion and hatred. I'm not qualified to be a puritan, but this is definitively a steaming degenerate Hollywood turd, and it has Jewish names all over it. -1000000/10, I hope every name associated with this production is hunted down and fed feet first into an autoclave. Feel free to regale me with tales of movies that you had the impression were rated highly, but turned out to have emanated from a diseased post-op axe-wound.
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>>1288 It's one of those "avant garde" 90s pieces where you're supposed to hate the characters, and enjoy hating them. King of the Hill is also written in the same way. It's highly jewish, but that's their sense of "humor." They love cringepuppets.
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>>1431 I love Hank tho
>>1431 >>1432 >tfw jews try to make whites detestable, and fail miserably because we're such kind people. yeah, i like Hank too.
>>1431 >King of the Hill is also written in the same way. I don't see it that way other than Hank who is legitimately a shitty person for grilling meat with gas, the rest are also flawed but have redeeming values at the end. The injun is a societal scumbag but one that does support, morally speaking, anyone in his community for nothing in return. The chink/laos monkey is a total asshole of a person but a model citizen in all the technical stuff. Boomhauer is an unintelligible guy who seemingly does nothing all day (until the ending showed his true profession) but is level-headed and pro-active in the betterment of society with small actions. Granpa is also a shit dude, bordering the psychopath label, but one who risked his neck to help the country in need (for ZOG but he didn't knew that) It's a balance and most characters were written that way, whoever thinks they were written to be hated are simply shallow.
>>1431 >king of the hill >It's one of those "avant garde" 90s pieces where you're supposed to hate the characters, and enjoy hating them. I'm not sure, I see what you mean but I did not even grow up with this crap and I didn't really hate the characters kind of like a milder more boring version B&B, I didn't hate the characters there either, they're genuinely funny. It's just shallow eccentric ridicule humor for kicks, with a touch of what you said, but still it's broadly way more innocent than say family goy or american dad or simp-sons or other sewer trash the kikes pump out these days.

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Silents & The Birth of Cinema Anonymous 02/03/2021 (Wed) 03:32:49 No.1355 [Reply]
[JW15 ~ 11/16/2019] Lately I've been watching nonfiction content from the silent era -- found footage, documentary, early fragments. This excellent video from the Museum of Modern Art captures a lot of what attracts me to these films. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBNwiPgknn8 >It's not so much being seduced by a story, it's the thrill of seeing in itself. I'm just disappointed that it's often difficult to find quality versions of this stuff. Watching anything potato quality youtube or even DVD doesn't do justice to the footage, and you lose the experience of time travel if you can't see clear details.
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>>1363 That looks very interesting. Could you upload it here by any chance? It's evading me a bit.
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>>1364 Here's a torrent although the file is large (8GB) https://rarbg.to/torrent/ru2gk95
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Anonymous 12/08/2020 (Tue) 06:29:41 No.905 [Reply]
This board is so dead. Does anyone else hate film students?
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>>956 >GROWTH FOR THE SAKE OF GROWTH IS THE IDEOLOGY OF A CANCER CELL, FUCK OFF ADHD NIGGER. We are extremely far from that problem and don't forget this is an imageboard not an encyclopedia.
>>905 I did a term of film studies. Hated it, hated the people, hated the lack of technical information. Shoulda read the pamphlet. Now I'm an honourary faggot.
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They seem pretty alright, I don't really expect to meet anyone in my lifetime with the same interests as me anyways. so, although they are barely above normalfag tier taste wise, they are usually open minded to new stuff. which is cool i guess
>>988 >imageboard not an encyclopedia. fucking wrong newfag
>>1334 Then let's stop posting and just archive the board.

How to like films again? Anonymous 09/02/2020 (Wed) 20:07:50 No.649 [Reply]
[JW21 ~ 01/12/2020] Growing up I always enjoyed watching films, but when I got older I started studying film and it tainted my movie-going experience permanently. It used to be that movies had a magical, escapist quality to them for me. But now when I watch a movie I can't help but criticize and analyse it in my mind. I can't stop myself from being taken out of immersion. It's no longer a fun past time, but a chore. It's very frustrating for me, because I just want to get absorbed into a story and forget about everything for 90 minutes, but I can't. Has anyone else here faced this problem?
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>>1267 >Is it weird to talk over movies while you watch them? No of course not. And yes, please don't do so in a theater filled with strangers. Being able to drink some wine and enjoy a movie together with a friend or two each babbling on about it is a fun pleasure, and can actually help you get to know each other better. (This can turn out to be bad or good either way ofc). Some of my fondest memories are watching ridiculous b-tier cult flicks with my best friend, laughing together at the absurdities.
>>1269 go back to cuckchan
>>1270 I was on cuckchan before you were born.
>>1267 Happened to me, that's why i started posting on /film/ because i had very few friends in contact whom i could talk about it. Had the luck to have one that recommended me decent stuff at an early age but it wasn't until college that i could find likeminded people, they are still top-tier friends but even before this pandemic i rarely could talk about movies because they got sucked into work life, paying taxes and such. And to make things worse i don't watch films anymore, i download them but never sit down to watch them due to my eternal college struggles and sidetracking with other hobbies. I did watch some low-brow stuff and somewhat got fond of it hence why i will start a thread about it in the near future to dump in some observations about certain aspects, peasant action cinema does have some redeemable qualities in its technical aspects along with unorthodox procedures to cut costs.
>>1267 It really depends, if its a movie i want to take seriously and i will watch it alone, there are other movies though that aren't very good and the only enjoyment you'll get out of them is by sharing the experience. >>1269 Wine sounds pretty gay, in any case i do the same but with the devil's lettuce, fun times too.

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