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Student 09/04/2020 (Fri) 00:27:27 ID: ba9f3d No.354
Hey /lang/ could you help me out? Should I learn Romanian or Hungarian? I am ethnically half of each, both languages are just equally as important learn to because I can't understand any of family members on my Mom's or Dad's very well. I am sort of leaning on Romanian because I tried to learn Hungarian and stopped midway the book(teach yourself® Hungarian) 5 years ago and I have some Spanish under my belt. I can't remember how to pronounce any of the letters of alphabet, let alone how to say hello. I think the reasons why I quit is because I too fast in the chapters, my parents were teaching me at the time and they went over it way to fast me to remember how pronounce anything correct nor remember it's grammar.
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is this the /int/ board?
>>355 No, it's the Language Learning & Translations board.
I would say Romanian, only because, from my limited knowledge of both languages, I believe it will be easier to learn, that is you will make faster progress. Romanian is a romance language after all, and while it's pretty distinct from other romance languages, it still derives most of its grammar and vocabulary from a familiar Latin/Indo-European source. Hungarian is not a romance language, in fact it is not even an Indo-European language; it's Uralic. So, unless you speak Finish or Estonian, Hungarian grammar and vocabulary are fundamentally different from anything you have experience with. You might as well learn Japanese; it might even be easier to learn than Hungarian. Of course, that's assuming that you A) don't have a bias towards of side of the family and B) can't just learn both. If you are a lot closer to the Hungarian side of your family, you should learn that. People often say you shouldn't learn two languages at the same time, but in my experience as long as they are different enough it won't cause any confusion (your only problem would be time management); I've been learning three languages at the same time (Spanish, Japanese, and German) for years; it doesn't cause me any real trouble. From my understanding, Romanian and Hungarian are definitely different enough that it shouldn't cause any confusion.
Also, OP, without outing yourself as an underageb&, can you tell us about how old you were when your parents were teaching you? A large part of it may have been bad teachers using a method that wasn't age appropriate. Assuming you're currently in your late teens (18 or 19), 5 years ago, you would have been in the grey area between the age where you learn languages like a child and the age where you learn them like an adult. You may find that simply revisiting the same book, doing it self study this time, is much more effective now, simply because it matches your age better.
>>354 Of the two languages, Hungarian seems to be the most insular and also the harder one to learn. It's a difficult call, in the end it all depends on whether you're going to mingle with either groups. Romanian may lead you into learning more languages, Hungarian can allow you to shitpost with other Hungarians at best.
>>354 Try and make it a learning experience with them. Share some laughs, let them teach you a word or two and in the meantime you learn your own thing. If you do it all alone with no help, you're not getting very far, my friend.
>>358 I am 25 now
>>370 Well, if you were 19/20 the first time and 25 now, the book itself won't be any better or worse than it was before. I found a pdf of (the 2003 version of) Teach Yourself Hungarian, and it looks to be relatively similar in structure/method to Genki, that is to say, it offers a good set of vocabulary and a good order for grammar topics with plenty of practice, but the grammar lessons themselves seem to be very rough approximations of the technical grammar, designed for the reader to be able to make consistent progress while being close enough to correct as to be competent without having to use additional resources. As with Genki, if you use this book you would have the choice of either taking the lessons at their word, accepting the fact that you will develop some bad habits that you will have to unlearn either through practice or when you progress to higher-level books, or using the lessons for their order and as a starting point and filling in the gaps with other sources (this will probably be harder with Hungarian than it is with Japanese due to the amount of material out there). Again, I would recommend that you at least start with Romanian instead, and maybe pick up Hungarian after you've hit your stride and understand how to teach yourself better. Especially knowing some Spanish, since Romanian seems to mostly be more conservative than other Romance languages, you will have a good starting point for most of the concepts involved in a Romance language already without it being similar enough to Spanish to cause any confusion. Hungarian seems to be a very difficult language, so I'd say wait to learn it until your a more efficient autodidact. I do think you should eventually try to learn both if you want to. Whichever way you end up going, I would recommend that you do the studying itself independently and leave your family for practice and clearing up questions that you can't find answers to elsewhere. Native speakers are useful for those things, but they won't make much better teachers than anyone else with the same level of training. Having people to talk to in the language is really good for your listening comprehension and speech production, and they're good at clearing up questions like "is this form acceptable" or "which way of phrasing this is more natural", but not as much at answering questions like "why do you use this here" or "when do you use this"; that kind of overt knowledge isn't something you get/are able to express when you learn a language "naturally".
Why not teach your families English instead?

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