>>1113 Looks good. Might need a few tweaks though, I'll try to do them when I have time. >>1114 I can see what you were going for, but there are too many beveled buttons where there shouldn't be, and also some misalignment in certain elements like thumbnails.

>>1207 >>1218 WikiFur has a half-decent history at https://en.wikifur.com/wiki/Kemono - much of their very early online roots were in FidoNet-like BBS networks/dedicated services before moving to personal Web pages in the late nineties and their offline roots were of course in doujinshi culture, which is sometimes compared to but very different to American-style con culture. (This difference has in the past caused friction when usually-Americans - especially cosplayers - turn up at Japanese events, assume they’re at a kind of “con”, and break all the unwritten iron rules.) Interestingly, fursuiting didn’t seem to have spread to their side of things until the late 2000s, and only quite sparingly. I attended Mimiket 31 back in 2014, which happened to be co-running that time with the kemono-only Mofuket 4 (pic related). The tables were split between the kemono circles and the kemonomimi circles, and I remember finding the Japanese kemono people - as the stereotype suggests - quite muted and civil. A couple of fursuiters were active, but I guess they were just taking their suits for a short spin to show their circlemates because it seemed to be more about showing off the technical prowess of the construction and design, which struck me as very high. I think events dedicated to fursuiting have since arisen, but I can’t imagine they departed too far from the fundamental pattern and sense of Japanese otaku events. By the way, that drawing in >>1207 is fanart of Bokko from Wonder 3 (second and third pics related), a series created by “father of manga” Tezuka, himself a kind of proto-furry. Many of his private drawings discovered in his locked desk well after his death were basically furry cheesecake (fourth pic related - note the vigorous hindquarter movement lines and the TF-fetish looking drawing in the top left), and he himself spoke of a fascination with the boundary between people and animals, specifically "metamorphic" blends of the two. In the series, Captain Bokko frequently displays more-than-platonic affection towards the teenage human main character Shunichi, and at the end of the series asks her two colleagues to transform her into a human girl so she can be with Shunichi. I'll leave speculation as to what effect this may have had upon a subset of the cartoon's young audience to others.

This is a really cool thread, OP. Thanks for making it and for providing such a wealth of material to discuss. The particular kind of anthro art in the 00s was what got me into that subculture in the first place (although I don't consider myself "a member of the furry fandom" since that kind of identity politicking is cancerous and impractical) along with cartoonists trying to push stuff past the censors. Thanks, Space Jam. >>1092 >>1206 >Very strong "Slayers"-era influence in this part of her work! It's not just an influence; the characters in pic 2 of the post you're quoting are literally just anthro versions of Lamia and Lina Inverse. >But develop it did, and these days she draws the visually-distinctive Lackadaisy webcomic (fourth pic related). This guide from 2011 (fifth pic related) shows that she put in a lot of /loomis/-style grinding in during the 2000s. Admirable. Huh. I had no idea, but that's really impressive; Lackadaisy is a comic I've been meaning to read for a long time, and the archive only gets longer the more I put it off - I never would have guessed that the artist for that and the artist who drew those pictures were the same person. I only recognized the first pictures because I knew it from the cover for the 1st edition of Ironclaw. Using Slayers knockoff art on the cover is one of many questionable decision made in Ironclaw 1E. I actually wrote a huge wall of text about it on smug/tg/'s community reading thread, if anyone's interested in it. >>1207 Aside from the obligatory shitposting about Osamu Tezuka, I can't say I know much, either. It was probably seen as less bizarre in Japan due to the history of Studio Sanrio (and organizations like it) and the general kawaii culture over there. >>1208 >jewgle's removal outdated search results. Makes it almost impossible to find the address of old sites if you don't already know what you're looking for, and even then you still might not find anything There's a german search engine called Metager that I've switched to recently. I don't think it goes as far back as the 90s, but it generally doesn't give me as much SEO filler when I search for a particular term, and I've found a lot of random websites from the early 00s when using it. http://www.anthrozine.com/site/links.html https://www.flayrah.com/ (Still going! Who'd have guessed?)

>>1221 >Ironclaw Huh. I remember one of my former game shops stocked a copy of Ironclaw (no idea which edition), but I never bothered picking it up to look at because I was more interested in Shadowrun, and if I wanted to splash on weird systems I'd never actually play then I would have gone for the copy of Nobilis they had. Or Paranoia XP. This reminds me that re-working CATastrophe is still on my eternal backburner; I still have the source files that the Catfolk Pilot dropped in our laps back on 8chan. Anyway, glancing at that /tg/ thread shows I probably didn't miss anything in book quality terms. Still, cool of you to go through it like that. Still can't quite believe that they actually drew up furry Lina Inverse as a sample character. >Bagi the Monster of Mighty Nature I recognise her mainly from all the kemono art the Japanese drew of her back in the day (and by "the Japanese" here I mean mainly Dr. Comet). Never saw her source material. >webm Oh, well, at least she's displaying catlike behavio- >"Smell my fur!" ...Tezuka, you fuck. It's not fair to do that to kids, not when you've cast a voice like that for your furry love interest. >mp4 I wonder what the Nippon TV programming executives thought of all this when they watched it before airing. You've got to hand it to the man - he got done what he wanted to do.

>>1221 >>1222 I also found this interesting synopsis of Bagi by the late animation historian Fred Patten, who seems to have had direct correspondence with Tezuka about the film: https://cartoonresearch.com/index.php/the-tezuka-pro-tv-specials-6-baghi-the-monster-of-mighty-nature/ >Dr. Tezuka told me in a letter that he made Baghi especially for me. Ha ha. Tezuka knew of my liking for anthropomorphic animals, and he was quite a kidder. Still, I like to think that he did have me in mind a few times while he made this TV movie. Tezuka was more involved in it than usual. >I do believe one detail that he told me. In the original story development, when Ryosuke as a little boy gets the kitten who will grow into a cat-woman, he says, “I’m going to name her Baghi, like Bagheera in Kipling’s Jungle Book!” That line was cut out in the production. So to anyone who did not talk with Tezuka himself (or his staff, I suppose), the translation of the Japanese katakana characters BA and GI as “Bagi” is perfectly reasonable. (The translation as “Baggy” is not reasonable.) However, her name will always be spelled “Baghi” to me, since I think that is how Dr. Tezuka meant it, and otherwise the name “Bagi” is meaningless. >Baghi was extremely popular with early Furry fans in the mid-‘80s, but judging by all of the fan art on the Internet, Baghi: The Monster of Mighty Nature seems to be a more recent fan favorite and not just with the Furry fans. Given Fred Patten's apparent familiarity with furries combined with his role as an animation historian, his site may well be a good resource to dig through for one type of furry history.

This thread reminded me of an artist I'd seen posted elsewhere on the web ring a few months ago named Jay Axer. His earliest postings on DeviantArt are from around 2005, so he might be at the very tail end of the time period we're talking about, but I think his art was and still is good enough to be worth mentioning. If nothing else, the design of his dragon character Leigh screams early 00s, as do the rest of his characters: they all seem to be some kind of nondescript military operators who wear cool-looking jackets, tank tops and camo pants. I also really like the way he draws clothing. >>1222 >Ironclaw Yeah, it's a real mess of a system in 1E. 2E is better but the cover is absolutely hideous and actual furfags would rather play Pathfinder or DND5E. It's kind of funny how systems designed specifically for anthro characters like Ironclaw or Furry Pirates (yes, there's really a system called Furry Pirates) are eschewed in favour of reworking more generic systems. >>1223 Y'know, I've never actually watched the animation. I guess I should do that in order to appreciate what I'm coming to realize is a landmark of anthro art history.

>>1210 Here's his site: http://www.infradead.org/~wmp/scenes.html There are some nudes, so it might be considered NSFW.

>>1215 Pog

>>1167 no, the connection is completely different telnet is a direct connection which opens a tcp shell on the server, with http you dont create a shell you send requests and the server sends responses (ie. html pages that are rendered client side) also nice non standard character set >>1167

>>1177 Might want to see if your client or terminal can decode CP437, I imagine that's what conventional BBSes from back in the day used.

>>1160 I made a quick emulator out of curiosity , not a real bbs but just the site parsed into the console, just a lazy proof of concept played around with trying to get images to render as ascii art but it all looked like shit, also no posting because captcha is a jpeg, I was going to make it download it and open it outside the terminal with system calls, but thats gay and unaesthetic so I didnt bother, gotta be tty bro link [ https://www64.zippyshare.com/v/aLVfWgyv/file.html ] also works for windows niggers

>>1212 >inb4 press 'h' for instructions

>>1212 >pre-compiled, binary blob. No thanks, fucking glownigger. Who do you think we are? Post the source and we can take things from there, kthxbye.

>>848 I just wish I could find even half the videos I watched back in 2007~2009. The only ones easy to find (assuming no copyright kikery) are old memes or gameplay footage of popular games at the time (WoW, MapleStory, Runescape, etc) I watched a bunch of videos that called out shitty Youtube policies that were not only ignored, but have gotten worse in the decade since then. I know ChiCity's Youtube Exposed gets reposted a lot, but there were other similar videos from smaller channels that went way more in-depth. (Even in 2009 channels were complaining the front page was mostly the same channels, Youtube pushing hard for Chrome, etc.)

>>1152 Have you tried searching through archive.org? Like the main archive and not the wayback machine?.. They regularly archive youtube videos and have been doing so since the early 2010s from what I remember.

>>1152 There are some YTPs I remember watching, and it sucks knowing that I'll probably never be able to track them down.

>>1156 >>1152 If you do happen to find these please post the link to them. I have been archiving YouTube videos offline and would like to archive any early videos I can.

Guys please check this out. It's a userscript I just installed for youtube and it makes the video player interface look a lot nicer/older. https://greasyfork.org/en/scripts/976-youtube-right-side-description It's funny how a small thing like this has actually given me quite a bit of satisfaction. If any of you install it and like it too I'd be happy. I didn't make the script by the way. props to the guy who did.

>>1163 It's alright. Not a big fan of the black metal style. I prefer something with a real decent rythem and headbangable riffs. Like this one. >Carcass: Swansong https://youtu.be/agQRIz3DviY

>>1169 As much as I love "Keep on Rotting in the Free World," I was always more into the Symphonies of Sickness sound. Reek of Putrefaction was my introduction to the band, and I still have a soft spot for that one even though I dislike grindcore (with some exceptions). Maybe I just haven't listened to their later releases enough, but I never really got into them. Michael Amott from Heartwork was behind my favorite melodic death metal album though: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVv87n8pWdg I get what you mean about the lack of rhythm in black metal, but I like the sense of romanticism and atmospheric bent that even the non-"atmospheric black metal" bands tend to have.

If I remember right Michael Amott was/is in Arch Enemy and that's the first I heard of his guitar work. >Arch Enemy: Instinct https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8iINrdyFIM

>>1173 I just clicked on the link and realized it was Arch Enemy...whoops.

>>1173 Yeah, he was in Carcass for Necroticism and Heartwork before he was in Arch Enemy. I also knew him from Arch Enemy first, since I discovered the early Carcass stuff first.

Stop spamming your shit here faggot

>>1180 In his defense, it could be relevant to some people's interests.

>>1079 Even the games that sound like they could be interesting in theory I tend to lose interest in when I see what they're actually like. The most exciting ones for me these days are just new reimplementations of older games.

What are some games with Y2K aesthetics? The only ones that come to my mind are Rez, Crazy Taxi and Jet Set Radio (and Future).

>>1145 Space Channel 5 comes to mind for me, although I've never actually played it.

>>1145 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkF8qI0v-ZA Does Wipeout count?

>>1145 >>1149 Sega was the king of Y2K >>1165 Absolutely

>>868 Despite that, most people don't seem to consider the first season part of the "Golden Age." I'm not sure I would either, but I do consider it the most charming and personally nostalgic (although I only started watching the show close to two decades after it started airing). What I have noticed is that there seems to be a renewed interest in the Mike Scully seasons, likely due to how much the show has continued to decline since he stopped as the showrunner. I've heard it said that the memes and quotes the show almost always come from the peak years of the show, but even the post-classic Scully era spawned a few, like the "damned Scots" speech and the "stupid sexy Flanders" scene. Even the full-on zombie years had some of its own though, so that might not be saying much.

>>867 I find the first season to be the best in terms of substance. >>868 It's not out of nostalgia, it's unanimously held that in the 8th-10th seasons it went to shit.

>>870 >I find the first season to be the best in terms of substance. I definitely appreciate how grounded in reality it feels in comparison to a lot of the later stuff. The same goes for Beavis and Butt-head as a show compared to how outlandish the plot of the movie was. It completely lost that slice-of-life feeling of two idiot teenagers trying to stave off boredom that made me love it so much. That's not to say either of those were bad, but I don't think I like the more outlandish style as much. >It's not out of nostalgia, it's unanimously held that in the 8th-10th seasons it went to shit. I've seen some people say that "Behind the Laughter" should have been the last episode. From what I remember of watching those later seasons back in high school, I found them funny enough but far more cartoonish in nature. Some of it felt like they were trying too hard to ride the coattails of shows like Family Guy and South Park though, as opposed to the balance between realism and cartoon humor that "Golden Age" Simpsons had. But even in the classic Simpsons seasons cracks would occasionally show. "Deep Space Homer" is a fondly remembered episode from way back in season five, but the basic premise feels a lot like a forerunner of the over-the-top zaniness the Simpsons would later get up to. "Lisa the Vegetarian" was season seven, and that featured one of the poorly integrated celebrity appearances the show would later become known for. To get Paul and Linda McCartney on board, the show had to agree to keep Lisa as a vegetarian from then on. They should have just stopped sucking up to the McCartneys and told them to take a hike,

Puréed essence of the mid-2000s.

>>1137 That was one of the only Adult Swim shows I ever got into, around the same time I was just getting into metal. I'll always remember the "food library" bit. I might have to revisit the show sometime.

>>992 found my way here too. let's see if it takes off again. My only gripe with anon.cafe is that there's coomer pr0n shit on this site. I wish there were chans without any of that garbage.

>>992 I'm glad the BO took the initiative in bringing the board over here. Hopefully we can get posters here who aren't the tiny handful of us who were posting at the previos board by the end. >>1024 I have no problem with it.

The January 1968 issue of this magazine has an excellent article on reading Hexadecimal on the PDF's page 47: http://www.bitsavers.org/magazines/Datamation/196801.pdf

>>1077 >a little schizo about data are you? Stopped reading there, what the hell is IB lingo doing in a 1968 magazine.

>>1159 It's spook lingo, the CIA was well-known to use certain strong words and phrases to cast certain people as outsiders since the days Kennedy got killed.