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/retro/-Where the 90's and 2000's Live On CaesarDude 09/06/2019 (Fri) 23:05:29 No.1 [Reply] [Last]
Alright, this is meant to be a successor to /y2k/ on the old 8chan, however I have expanded it to include both the 1990's and the 2000's and NSFW content is allowed, provided it's actually related to the purpose of this board and doesn't violate any of the site's core rules.
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>>1881 >That thread was a shitfest. It only had 3 or 4 posts, calm your guns you buffalo

Operating systems Fellow Time Traveler 11/29/2021 (Mon) 17:06:33 No.2102 [Reply]
What is your favorite operating system? Do you prefer MS-DOS, Windows 3.1, 95, or something else? FreeDOS? Some flavor of Linux?
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In terms of board-relevant OSes, XP. That's where I had most of my early internet adventures, anyway. I used 98 and even 3.1 back in the 90s, but my 3.1 machine lacked internet capability and I was almost never allowed online (like, once or twice a year) when we got a 98 box. So I spent most of my time then playing games off shovelware CDs. I wanted to mess with Linux back in the 00s, but I never had a spare computer/drive to put it on and was afraid of losing data by setting up a dual boot. At least I could rice the shit out of my XP box with bbLean to look like the cool kids. Nowadays I just use a simple Linux setup without much rice.
Debian reinvigorated my interest in computers and I wouldn't use another distro unless it went to shit. Nostalgia wise XP was what I used during my own subjective 'golden era' of the internet and I wish things were more like then than they are now.
>>2103 >not using XP with the Green or Royale skin
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>>2106 green was fugly, silver/chrome was the shit
I can't choose between the Windows 9x systems or Windows XP with the Luna theme when it comes to aesthetics. My first experience with computers was using one that I think had been upgraded to Windows 95 from DOS, and my family upgraded to 98 and XP when they came out. I also remember using Windows Me in school and at my friend's house. XP is my favorite of the classic operating systems as far as usability is concerned. I first started using the Internet with Windows 98 but didn't really get into the Internet hardcore until the XP era. Thinking about all this just makes me wish ReactOS was viable as a replacement for Windows 10.

Modern /retro/ material that actually does it right Fellow Time Traveler 08/06/2020 (Thu) 18:36:27 No.768 [Reply]
Let's have a new thread without a tonne of broken images. Have there been any new forms of /retro/ media (could be movies, games, anime, websites, etc.) that wanted to look old and actually succeeded? There's an artist called BlueTheBone who makes "retro"-styled animations, cheesecake, and porn. Like any modern hack, he overdoses on visual clutter and uses filters that don't actually resemble the time period he's trying to emulate - but despite that, I think his style is consistently decent. If he relied less on computers and filters, then I think he'd be a much better artist, but that goes without saying for most contemporary artists. The really weird things happen when he tries to make modern character designs and media look old, like pic 2. It isn't exactly wrong, but there is something perplexing about viewing characters and series that were developed specifically with modern aesthetics in mind.
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>>2094 >It was made in POV-Ray, I'm glad that you like it! You really don't need Bryce if you're able to make landscape images like that. >Just go with Blender. You'll be able to model virtually anything, and render in POV-Ray or Anim8or for the retro look. I plan on learning Blender myself as a companion to POV-Ray. I read that POV-Ray isn't compatible with the latest versions of Blender. That's the only reason why I wasn't considering it as an option. This seems to imply otherwise though: https://wiki.povray.org/content/HowTo:Use_POV-Ray_with_Blender >No doubt. Just finish the tracks you already made good progress on, release them, then make more. Having pushed something out of the door will greatly motivate you to push out more. If I had something released, I might be more accepting of how long everything's taking. I don't want to be one of those people who keep pumping out music even when they've lost the creative spark they used to have. I'd rather make something and then sit on it for a while to make sure I'm satisfied with it. I plan on just focusing on a small number of pieces like the ones I posted, but it can be hard to stay focused and not start messing around with another project. In the meantime, here's a little recording I just made of Prophet patch I created earlier this year: https://vocaroo.com/1azAMgIZBWZH
>>2095 >This seems to imply otherwise though Yeah I recall stumbling upon that link but I'm not too worried about it, I'm using an older version of POV-Ray anyway so this exporter probably won't work for me OOTB. Currently I get models into POV-Ray by exporting them from Blender as .obj files, then converting them to .inc files using a homemade script. >I don't want to be one of those people who keep pumping out music even when they've lost the creative spark they used to have. You haven't published any (complete) music yet though. It's like you're worried about your brand new car breaking down due to age, before even buying it... It's been more than a year now, that's more than enough time to create some demos, sit on them for a while, revisit them for refinement, and releasing them. >I plan on just focusing on a small number of pieces like the ones I posted, but it can be hard to stay focused and not start messing around with another project. Sounds like a plan. Only you can sedate the little monkey in your head and get some work done without distractions. >1azAMgIZBWZH Very good, as always. You could introduce some instruments as the track progresses to flesh it out, but otherwise it's a solid foundation.
>>2096 >Yeah I recall stumbling upon that link but I'm not too worried about it, I'm using an older version of POV-Ray anyway so this exporter probably won't work for me OOTB. Currently I get models into POV-Ray by exporting them from Blender as .obj files, then converting them to .inc files using a homemade script. Oh, okay. I thought you meant doing everything in Blender and just exporting to POV-Ray through that. >You haven't published any (complete) music yet though. It's like you're worried about your brand new car breaking down due to age, before even buying it... It's been more than a year now, that's more than enough time to create some demos, sit on them for a while, revisit them for refinement, and releasing them. I get what you mean, but I cringe when I listen to what I made when I just started making music. I remember uploading one to Newgrounds before deleting my account and it got bad ratings. >Sounds like a plan. Only you can sedate the little monkey in your head and get some work done without distractions. It doesn't help that I have a really short attention span and am not a NEET with tons of time to spare anymore. I've decided to spend some time every day trying to work on my attention problems. >Very good, as always. You could introduce some instruments as the track progresses to flesh it out, but otherwise it's a solid foundation. I was just testing out that patch and didn't bother saving what I did. It would be easy enough to get in the same ballpark of that anyway. I'm pretty happy with that sound, since I seem to have an easier time with FM synthesis than subtractive. With the right interface, anyway. Those old '80s FM synths would have been a nightmare to program.
>>2097 >Oh, okay. I thought you meant doing everything in Blender and just exporting to POV-Ray through that. You can do that too, whatever works most comfortably for you. That's probably the optimal workflow if you're doing animation, but for now I'm just making do with my script to create static scenes. >I cringe when I listen to what I made when I just started making music Failure is necessary for improvement, your first 5/10/20 tracks are gonna be (relatively) bad, that's simply how it is. But these 20 bad tracks have to exist in the first place, so that the following 20 tracks can be better... You'll only improve by doing (i.e. releasing your music) to gain experience and outside opinions if needed. And don't let negative ratings get to your head, they will always be there and you're gonna have to learn to ignore them or take only the constructive parts of them. I know talent when I see it and you definitely have talent, so invest in it and don't waste it. >I've decided to spend some time every day trying to work on my attention problems. That's great! Post your progress here every now and then so you can stay motivated. Currently I'm looking into making a website to publish my art through, since I have a couple finished 3D scenes. It's most probably gonna be a Neocities website, although I'm kinda dreading all the HTML/CSS I'm gonna have to write.
>>2098 >Currently I'm looking into making a website to publish my art through, since I have a couple finished 3D scenes. It's most probably gonna be a Neocities website, although I'm kinda dreading all the HTML/CSS I'm gonna have to write. I was thinking about doing that at some point, but I don't know what I'd put on it.

Fellow Time Traveler 04/15/2020 (Wed) 02:12:08 No.536 [Reply] [Last]
Aesthetics thread Missing files >>1594
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>>2070 >>2071 This is great, thanks anon. scans when
>>2070 Nice nips
>>2074 I don't know a way of getting scans in without destroying the book's spine, and it's something I'd really rather keep for myself for the future. I paid about $60 burgerbux for it which is way too much but I think it will be worth it.
>>2079 That's perfectly understandable. If you do ever find a way to take decent quality photos/scans please do share them.
>>1151 I love this kind of skeuomorphic art style. I hope to do something that can properly emulate it one day.

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Computers Thread Fellow Time Traveler 08/21/2020 (Fri) 04:41:24 No.803 [Reply] [Last]
Looks like none of the images in the catalog work. Let's get a fresh thread in here, focused on computers! I don't have pictures at the moment to share, but I got lucky today and picked up a nice big beige computer case. I'm assembling a new personal computer from parts that I got deals on, found in the junk heap, or that I was given by friends. So, I guess it's not really a /retro/ computer, but it will be in a /retro/ case, and I plan to get an adapter which will let me use a 3.5" floppy disk drive in there. The adapter plugs into the floppy pins, and presents a USB interface to the motherboard. That adapter is under $10 USD. In fact, I've seen an adapter card that will do the same but for 5.25" floppy disk drives. So, when I have more money, I should be able to have not only a 3.5" FDD, but a 5.25" FDD in my system, running alongside new solid state drives, Blu-Ray disc drives, and of course a few regular hard drives. It should be pretty fun. Again, no pictures yet but I will share with you guys when I can. For now I'll just post one from my collection. What have you guys been up to?
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>>2025 >did you know its run by a 40 year old postal worker so?
>>2027 >>2030 >postal worker I take it you've never interacted with one
>>815 Chrome was okay as long as it was brushed and not glossy. The case should be nondescript and not reflect light everywhere. Though reflecting light is still better than shining it everywhere like that RGB stuff of today.
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I was curious and looked up "what was the fastest 8086 clone?" I found this blog post: http://www.z80.eu/blog/index.php?entry=entry190310-150623 Apparently it was the 8086 in this NEC machine.

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Subcultures and fashion of the 90s & 2000s Fellow Time Traveler 08/11/2021 (Wed) 09:36:23 No.1892 [Reply]
What subculture were you a part of, Fellow Time Travelers? 90s bros, did you go to rave parties? 2000s kids, did you get some of that easy emo pussy?
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>>1979 Metallica is metal and not at all mallcore, although I guess St. Anger kind of flirted with mallcore. Marilyn Manson is both.
>>1959 >Another thing is that those cultures were innocent I guess, it was all about fashion and music and feelings, while subcultures today are all about politics. Indeed, it must suck being a kind in school right now. I don't remember politics being all that important to kids until they went off to higher education, and even then, it was still cringe to see inexperienced youth knowing how to solve the worlds problems.
>>1981 Load, Reload and half of the Black Album are the archetypical mallmetal stuff. >>1997 lol, edgy angry teenagers being more prone to common sense than some college students was always a naive but ironic sight to see and hear at parties or hangouts. >Hangouts Now that's something that i see lost even before pandemic times, it was normal to gather 5 or even 10 people (sometimes more) and roam like a gang to anywhere and just shoot the shit telling jokes or doing stuff on the spot, recently it wasn't normal to see other than the eternal 2 or 3 close friends planning to do something.
>>1999 >Load, Reload and half of the Black Album are the archetypical mallmetal stuff. Nah, it was more radio-friendly music than their earlier stuff but not mallcore. Being commercial isn't enough to make something mallcore.
>>1896 Dress for the dystopia you're on, anon.

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Pre-Goolag YouTube Fellow Time Traveler 10/03/2020 (Sat) 17:51:14 No.848 [Reply] [Last]
YouTube was once also part of the old innocent, creative and fun internet when at worst people would make a video in the hopes of it getting viral. But that slowly changed thanks to the Goolag purchase which kept ruining YouTube at small steps and turning it into Cable TV 2.0 and Spotify 2.0 : >forcing people to move to Goolag account to keep their channels and their videos >complying with copyrightniggers as part of the mutual ass-kissing with the government >giving monetary incentives to "content creators" , aka self-important e-celeb faggots, which drawn greedy normalfag scum and later on were removed which in turn force these greedy normalfags to beg for Patreon gibs and get sponsorships to advertise even more shit on youtube >adding ads in the middle of the fucking video as if it was cable tv >letting big cable tv channels having accounts on youtube >removing full albums and songs from non-corporate music channels and reupload them as separate songs by a fucking bots >increasing censorship and removing comments and videos >disorganizing the comments section into a complete messy shitshow >usless redesigning of the site over and over again >changing the 5 star video valuation system to extra faggy like and dislike Let's reminisce of YouTube better days, whether it was a specific channel or video and so on...
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>>2003 Invidious works for people not using app based devices. People using computers can easily bypass the dumbed-down app interface, but normies live in the app ecosystem. Many of them are completely unaware that their viewing options are being boxed in.
This has got me thinking about creating videos that are the antithesis of modern Youtube. No advertising, no sponsorships, no monetary benefit at all. Just pure concentrated autism for its own sake like the old days. Host it somewhere obscure and free of algorithmic manipulation. It wouldn't set the world on fire but any anons who feel the same could join in too.
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>>2088 This isn't the first time Jawed has spoken out, he did something similar when Google+ was made mandatory back in 2013.
>>2087 Go right ahead then, you can use VidLii or any of the PeerTube instances, or just good old webm postan. As long as you stay anonymous. >>2088 "Creators" still won't leave the platform or give other platforms a chance, they'll stick with the sinking ship till the very end instead of finding alternatives while they still can.

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living life as /retro/ as possible Fellow Time Traveler 09/22/2021 (Wed) 03:47:35 No.1985 [Reply]
Anyone else here /retro/maxxing? I've realized there is no point in denying myself happiness and gigacoziness and I may as well go all in on my retro obsessions even if it's a bit weird. I could list a bunch of things I'm doing but I'll start with just a couple here >film photography I have never bought a digital camera and I have stopped being a NEET lately. I have a small comfy job so I have some money and I buy rolls of film on occasion and I carry a late '90s point and shoot camera with me almost everywhere I go. It's fun and super comfy. I also started developing black and white film myself, at home. >computer I have set up my windows machine to look like windows 98 (not completely accurate but I've changed over the icons and use a classic theme, etc. And on my linux machine I have set it up to look like some versions of UNIX from the late 80s to early 90s. And for my browser I use Pale Moon and I have it set to look like Netscape. >music I go to the record store sometimes and browse around and I have a collection of tapes, CDs, and records which I listen to. I have a lot of fun fixing cassette decks too.

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>>2045 >>2062 Many of the new coders and programmers go directly into high-level programming and don't do programming at the OS level or below. WebDev is the worst when it comes to this. Programmers of embedded software will need to know all the efficiency tricks, but WebDevs can be stupid, wasteful, and still code things that "work".
>>2076 Different anon. IceWM is definitely quite lightweight and it mimics the Windows taskbar and window decorations very well. The only difference is the start menu; by default it shows you categories of programs rather than the programs themselves. For example you have a "Graphics" entry, and when you click it you get a submenu containing programs, for example Gimp, Krita...etc. Same thing for "Video", "Web", and so on. I don't know if there's a way to customize the start menu entries.
>>2076 >>2080 I might have to try that if I go back to Linux. Judging from the screenshots, I like the start menu better than Cinnamon's.
I'm going to start carrying around a pocket camera anytime I go outside now. The appeal of having it with you all the time is that you're more likely to take pictures and videos of your surroundings to preserve memories; you'll actively pursue beauty in the everyday life to capture. Sure, a smartphone camera is more than adequate to do the same thing, but if you've got a smartphone then you're more inclined to be distracted and start dicking around on social media or whatever instead. It seems like people used to take photos all the time, and had huge albums of past memories to show to their family. At the very least, my family had these albums. Most of the photos that'll be left over from the 2010s and onward will be ones that are staged and handpicked to impress strangers on social media.
>>2083 That's a good idea. I never spent much time walking around outside other than the times I went out specifically to take pictures. I'd use up a whole roll in a few hours at the most.

Vidya General Anonymous 09/07/2019 (Sat) 01:44:38 No.6 [Reply] [Last]
>ITT: Vidya of the 90's and 2000's Keep it limited to the scope of this board, so basically Fourth, Fifth, and Sixth Generation consoles only for now. For those who don't know what consoles are part of which generation, here's a quick rundown of the time frame we're talking about... >Fourth Generation: SNES, Sega Genesis/Sega CD >Fifth Generation: PS1, N64, Sega Saturn >Sixth Generation: Dreamcast, PS2, Gamecube, OG Xbox Discussion of games from the Seventh Generation consoles (PS3/Wii/Xbox 360) is allowed as well, but I'd like the thread to mainly focus on the 4th-6th console genererations since the 7th Gen era carried over into the 2010's and a lot of the games from that era onward obviously have far more in common with modern gaming than stuff from the 16-bit consoles or the PS1 and PS2 eras.

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>>2055 The Ds lite could play all GBA games and had a headphone jack. There's no reason to even care about the gameboy console line besides the ability to play gameboy color games on the advance.
>>2056 I wanted to play games like Link's Awakening, Trax, and Super Mario Land 2. I never really got into the DS that much other than a handful of games, and I much preferred the single-screen form factor of the SP. I was more into the PSP than the DS due to homebrew scene it had.
>>2058 I still don't get the homebrew scene at all. There has not been a single memorable homebrew game ever made and they've all been proof of concept at best. Never seen any system improvements either beyond emulators for games I already owned. Its sad that most people don't know about how much better the Super mario 64 remake on the DS was. It had yoshi, luigi, wario, and mario as playable characters and all the cut content and bonus levels reinstated with some minigames and a barebones multiplayer. So there was never any reason for that "L is real" autism to exist past its release where they confirmed Luigi was supposed to be in the game all along and yoshi had a more prominent role than being an Easter egg.
>>2059 >Never seen any system improvements either beyond emulators for games I already owned. The emulators were what I was really into. A lot of my favorite Game Boy Advance games were just rereleases of older games, and being able to play ROMs basically rendered buying those games obsolete.
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Just wanted to mention a new board /valis/ is now open on the webring. It's a place about entertainment systems using video or rich visual mechanisms as feedback that may or may not have been put together by a few 8vg anons :^) Discussion can also range to saloon activities like cue games and card shuffling due to their social and classic nature in the ludic activities of people around the world. Having or remembering fun and sharing tips and tricks sounds like the goal, come visit sometime.

Y2K was 20 years ago Fellow Time Traveler 12/31/2019 (Tue) 17:16:06 No.258 [Reply]
With a new decade upon us and the 2000's being officially "retro" in the eyes of mainstream pop culture, I'm wondering what 2000's nostalgia will be like in the 2020's? 80's nostalgia got big in the 2000's and is still going strong with all that weird "vaporwave" art that appeared in the early 2010's and stuff like Stranger Things in the late 2010's. More relevant to this board, 1990's nostalgia first became a big thing this decade but it was more prominent on the internet than TV or movies. Now we're seeing 2000's nostalgia start to take root in the very late 2010's. I've noticed a lot of Zoomers posting 2000's nostalgia compilations on YouTube in 2018-2019 and it kind of reminds me of the first big wave of 90's nostalgia that got big online in 2010-2012 or so. Hell, /retro/ itself is simply a newer version of /y2k/ over on the old board, but expanded to also include the 90's. I'm wondering if we'll see more 2000's nostalgia and whether or not the media will start pandering to it. Pic unrelated
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>>2052 >NO! YOU CANT HAVE CONTEXT TO YOUR BLASTING! Are you also one of those retards who believe the bots can become sentient after that quake shitpost too?
>>2053 What more context do you need past the information early FPS games provided? Older action games often had even less. All Robotron players had to know was that robots were trying to take over the world and kill the last remaining humans.
>>2048 Look at the graphic in >>1347 imagine it as a longer chain. 1990-92 had overlap with late 80s culture, but then the CCCP collapsed, and things changed. Similar to how 9/11 happened and a lot of 90ism ended, things changed. The coronavirus is the start of this new decade... As for pre-1995, people made a point to go do things in person. Internet and BBSs were obscure, so people either talked on a landline phone (remember phonebooks?) or face to face. Kids had to meet up to play games, no online multiplayer, and adults would also visit each other because there was no email for the normies. The general population seemed more engaged with movies/TV than now.
>>2052 lol Storyfagging in the 90s was pretty much all dialog. Nowadays, it really is story-fagging with flamboyant cut scenes and over-the-top body language. Playing a game, or watching a movie?
>>2052 I miss the Doom and Quake style of first person shooter tbh. At least Cruelty Squad and other clones of those types of shooters seem to have made a comeback

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