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Stormtrooper 08/04/2022 (Thu) 22:30:04 No.6283
*ruins your franchise* heh, nothing personnel kid
It was already ruined by the time this faggot got anywhere near it.
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>David Filloni didn't... ruined your franchise... I did. >t. Georgie Boy
>>6305 Ah, come on, The empire strikes back, wasn´t that bad.
>>6306 That was an age before the Prequels. Before the retcons.
>2022 >there are still faggots who think George was in the wrong Enjoy your space whales and force wolves
>>6311 Yes... we never had space whales... cough... Whaladons! Cough... whaladons! >calls himself SW fan >don't engage in the honored tradition of Lucas bashing You're doing it wrong, youngling. Remember, Han shoot first.
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>>6315 >Remember, Han shoot first. What is the difference of him shooting first or second?
>>6316 Han Solo character development. Han shooting first depicts a ruthless contrabandist that moves from pure greed to commitment to the Rebellion. Han not shooting first depicts a just "roguish" character, there is no real personality development. Han colded blooded killed Greedo
>>6335 >Han colded blooded killed Greedo And that is where you are wrong, Greedo had a blaster on Han the whole conversation, even if Han shot first or second it wouldn't matter since he killed Greedo in self-defense.
>>6336 It did make a difference, since one thing is to shoot preemptively, Han was actually delaying Greedo by making him talk so he could pull his gun and put into position to shoot him dead, another is Greedo actually shooting at Han and them he acting in self defense https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Han_shot_first > The change was due to Lucas not wanting Han to come off as a cold-blooded killer, but rather acting in self-defense, with one rumor stating the scene, in its unaltered form, risked giving the entire Special Edition a PG-13 rating, thus limiting the audience for the theatrical run. >In a February 9, 2012 interview with The Hollywood Reporter, George Lucas indicated that Greedo fired first, even in the original film, and pointed out that the exchange of blaster fire between Han Solo and Greedo was shot in close-up which made the scene ambiguous. This ambiguity, along with viewers' desire for Han Solo to be a cold-blooded killer, caused the audience to draw the wrong conclusions; that is, they only thought Han shot first. Wide shots he added in later releases of the film served to make the actual results of the encounter more obvious.[6] The suggestion, coming several years after the first occurrence of the alleged "change," appears to contradict the film's script and other evidence suggesting that Greedo originally did not fire at Han.[7]
>>6339 >a xeno is pointing a blaster at you >shooting first is not self-defense >mfw The only scene when he would be a cold-blooded killer, would be if Greedo is NOT pointing a blaster at him.
>>6340 Yes it's self-defense, but Han shooting first gives him a harder edge that he's supposed to have, in order to complete his arc as >>6335 said. and as >>6339 said, the sequence shows that Han was subtly reaching for his gun, delaying and distracting Greedo until he could take a shot. Clearly the intent was there, so it makes no sense for Greedo to shoot first; you could almost say it "subverts expectations". It also reflects poorly on Greedo, who I think was a professional bounty hunter, not an amateur. If Greedo shoots first, and misses at point-blank range, that makes him seem like an ineffective retard, whereas with Han shooting first, he just got caught off guard by his quarry. And for Greedo to shoot right after confirms him as a serious challenge to Han, and his miss is understandable if he took a blaster bolt at the same time he squeezed the trigger. While I'm on this topic, I remember reading Tales from the Mos Eisley Cantina, a compendium of short stories which varied but were generally pretty good. Greedo's story was a mixed bag -- I really dug the backstory with the clan wars, Navik the Red, all that shit was cool. However, I hated how they characterized Greedo as a newfag retard who got played for a fool, set up to die by his enemies. It just didn't fit the original scene, at all. If I decided canon, I would keep the clan/warlord backstory while ditching the rest.
>>6344 Yeah, the new scene looks bad, but I still think that Han is the same person in both scenarios. >I remember reading Tales from the Mos Eisley Cantina I haven't read any of his stuff, but I manage to read all the old marvel comics.

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